Don't have a cow, man. I'll get my friend Steve to throw a chair at you! An if that doesn't work, I, for one, welcome our Anonymous Overlords! Kirk out!!
Really? No beachballs of death at least? Anyway, for all I know you're just cropping images all day. My students are typically doing work that acquaints them with more advanced features -- even if they're not totally necessary -- so perhaps that's where the difference comes in.
Nah, no beachballs. And no, not image cropping. Matte painting, concept illustration, texture creation, etc. I'd say we all manage to frequent most of Photoshop's crannies.;) I don't think the stylize functions are used often, maybe there's a difference there? I dunno. That's the problem with Photoshop, too mainstream, too many different uses. It must be painful for them to figure out what sort of functionality to focus on.
So it's just your illustrator friends who have stability problems?
Erm did I phrase that badly? No, they don't have stability issues, hence they save like every couple of hours. Again, I'm not sure why software Darwinism hasn't taught them to save more frequently.
Thanks for the link. This is the first time I've actually heard of people complain about actual lose-your-work crashes. The only major gripe I've seen with Photoshop is CS4's reliance on OpenGL which causes a major latency when using the brush. The fix for it is lame, you have to disable it in the registry. Not cool.
Anyway, it's nice of Adobe to keep improving Photoshop, but it's amazing how many millions of dollars have gone into this software, and it is still getting a bad rep for tons of crashes...
Could you elaborate on this a bit? I work with Photoshop daily along with a large number of other people who do as well and stability is not one complaint I've heard. In fact, some of my illustrator friends have a bad habit of not saving often. Why Murphy's Law hasn't taught them a lesson about that I"ll never know.
When I decided I wanted to learn to drive, I decided to be serious about it, so I bought a brand new Mercedes 500SEL for my driving lessons.
Ah, you don't understand his meaning. Let me correct your analogy for you:
"When I decided I wanted to learn to drive, I decided to be serious about it, so I replaced my custom-designed go-kart that used a PS2 controller for steering with a Honda Civic and an automatic transmission. Not only am I street-legal now, but I can actually converse with other drivers about the operation of their cars. I can even get a job as a delivery guy now!"
I've worked on a movie where one of the artists used Blender from time to time. It has a feature that was really useful for something very specific we were doing. He took the time to train a few of us to use it. And.. for a bit it worked okay, but the workflow was so alien that retention just wasn't in order. Sadly, this is a major problem for the adoption of Blender.
I will say, though, that I'm happy they have managed to sway my opinion a bit. It wasn't all that long ago that I'd make a fart noise whenever Blender was mentioned. After my coworker showed me the workflow for modelling that piece, I was suitably impressed. Even though it was a silly learning curve, they had a few things right. 1.) They solved a problem. 2.) They used a common file format. 3.) It worked like you'd expect it to work, as opposed to only working in bench tests. A few more wins like that and it'll easily become part of my everyday toolset.
Did the math co-processor do anything useful for gaming or anything like that? I had a 286 when I was 12 and always wondered if that would have bought me anything.
If all you're looking for is "what movies are showing at my favorite theater?", and you have an app that just shows you what you're looking when you launch it, it's not like you need a billboard to blast that info and heaps of time to get it moving.
It's fun to nitpick the phrasing of a sentence, but at the end of that day what he's saying should resonate to all of us that prefer Google's homepage to Yahoo's.
I hear you. However, when you're talking about content consumption devices, content is king. This is why, for exmaple, the PS2 won its round of the console wars despite being the least sophisticated of the big three. It wasn't the best by a long shot, but it had the games library to easily justify it.
Considered the best by who? There are many portable media devices out there that are better than the IPOD both in features and price. I think you are confusing "Best" with "Has the highest market share.
Content consumption devices do benefit from market-share. See game consoles.
The issue is that it doesn't do it easily, cleanly, or by default. I could probably learn how to do it, but why bother?
Because you had to learn how to do it anyway when you started with Unix. I'm sure there were a lot of things there that you couldn't find 'by default' that you ended up slapping your forehead about later.
That was my original rant - it doesn't matter if either location is on the same file system, a device connected to the computer, a computer on a local network, or running on something in space.
It doesn't matter in Windows, either. You have to have them talking to each other, just like you do in Unix.
As for your snarky reply about me not using windows properly, once again you don't seem to understand how that shit works. I wanted to quickly transfer 1gb of files off a windows laptop in a lab, so I slapped a USB thumb drive into it. As it was the first time it had been plugged in, I was treated to 2 minutes of installation and configuration. The same thumb drive, plugged into the OSX machine across the hall immediately showed up in Finder, and I started pulling files off it 2 seconds later. Sure, should I ever plug that same drive into that same laptop, it probably won't do that. However, it shouldn't have done that in the first place. It's a damn storage device.
Okay... so your complaint is that the first time around it needed to configure itself and it works every time after that. But you don't know for sure because you've only done it once... right? And this means you know everything about how Windows works? I just don't think if I tried to make the same complaint about Unix or Linux I'd be let off the hook very easily. In fact, I know this. I've gotten roasted pretty heavily before for not instantly knowing which configuration file to go into with a text editor and which line to flip values on.
If that laptop had any sort of useful networking on it, I'd have just transferred the files from it to the OSX machine. But windows doesn't come with anything that can talk to OSX by default.
Both OS's are configurable with network shares that the opposite OS can talk to. And when I mean 'congfigurable', I mean you don't need to install anything special.
Sorry, but when it comes down to it, Windows blows for networking and file transfers.
*nix is definitely much stronger at networking and remote administration than Windows. No argument from me, there. However, the problems you're ranting about were easily solvable.
If you're setting up a VPN to transfer files, you're not using windows properly.
Hee hee. Why do I think this line was written after a hasty Google search for "Windows VPN"?
You should be playing games on it, and using a decent OS for networking.
You should learn how to use whatever OS you're working on before you run around publicly criticizing it.
Ah, you're right, I missed the "between work and home" bit. I apologize. That's a little tougher because you need to get the two machines talking to each other, and that's what SSH does nicely. One way would just be to add a step in the beginning to set up a VPN. Alternatively I think Windows has a built in feature for connecting two machines' file systems remotely, but I haven't messed with it in years. There's probably a half dozen other ways to do it. Windows can share files over the net just fine, it's not some feature exclusive to *nix.
And for the record, I AM using windows properly - I boot into it to play games. It's great for games, and not useful for anything else.
Right. You're using it properly by being utterly unaware of how Windows networking works and using USB flash drives (that only seem to require drivers whenever you use it) and email to share files between two internet-connected machines. I wouldn't want to look like a dumbass for challenging you there.
We both agreed that most of windows land involves emailing shit to yourself, and a lot of USB thumb drive use...
Explorer: \\ComputerName\c$\Documents and Settings\UserName\My Documents\
Permissions permitting, this is all you need to do. Or you just share folders.
(Of which I could fire off a good half-hour rant on how poorly windows handles mass storage devices. It's a USB THUMB DRIVE for gods sake. It's not a fucking printer! I want to plug it in, and transfer files to/from it. It doesn't need to be "installed", indexed, and have drivers downloaded for it. Just fucking open a file browser like any sane OS does. )
This is a 10 year old complaint.
I have a hard time working on windows, because I'm so much more efficient with a terminal. It's not that I can't use a gui - I'm just an order of magnitude faster using the terminal.
The beam has to be kept on the mosquito long enough to heat it up. Now, I admit maybe I'm being dumb and missing a detail here, but why wouldn't continually aiming the beam to hold it on the mosquito long enough to torch it be considered a 'dimension'?
Yes, 40 million iPhones and 20 million iPod Touches is an insanely tiny market. It's so tiny that that iPhone doesn't even show up on a potential developer's radar.
But Apple has the advantage of their dumbed down and artificially limited OS and well known censured third partyapplications that has been far more succesful in ways that less limited and more open OS's (like Android) hopes to one day be..
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*closes GMail and whistles innocently.*
Don't have a cow, man. I'll get my friend Steve to throw a chair at you! An if that doesn't work, I, for one, welcome our Anonymous Overlords! Kirk out!!
Really? No beachballs of death at least? Anyway, for all I know you're just cropping images all day. My students are typically doing work that acquaints them with more advanced features -- even if they're not totally necessary -- so perhaps that's where the difference comes in.
Nah, no beachballs. And no, not image cropping. Matte painting, concept illustration, texture creation, etc. I'd say we all manage to frequent most of Photoshop's crannies. ;) I don't think the stylize functions are used often, maybe there's a difference there? I dunno. That's the problem with Photoshop, too mainstream, too many different uses. It must be painful for them to figure out what sort of functionality to focus on.
So it's just your illustrator friends who have stability problems?
Erm did I phrase that badly? No, they don't have stability issues, hence they save like every couple of hours. Again, I'm not sure why software Darwinism hasn't taught them to save more frequently.
Thanks for the link. This is the first time I've actually heard of people complain about actual lose-your-work crashes. The only major gripe I've seen with Photoshop is CS4's reliance on OpenGL which causes a major latency when using the brush. The fix for it is lame, you have to disable it in the registry. Not cool.
Anyway, it's nice of Adobe to keep improving Photoshop, but it's amazing how many millions of dollars have gone into this software, and it is still getting a bad rep for tons of crashes...
Could you elaborate on this a bit? I work with Photoshop daily along with a large number of other people who do as well and stability is not one complaint I've heard. In fact, some of my illustrator friends have a bad habit of not saving often. Why Murphy's Law hasn't taught them a lesson about that I"ll never know.
I'm starting to think Slashdot is just an index for xkcd.
Because it's not like art departments and pre-press operations were the dominant market for Photoshop.
When I decided I wanted to learn to drive, I decided to be serious about it, so I bought a brand new Mercedes 500SEL for my driving lessons.
Ah, you don't understand his meaning. Let me correct your analogy for you:
"When I decided I wanted to learn to drive, I decided to be serious about it, so I replaced my custom-designed go-kart that used a PS2 controller for steering with a Honda Civic and an automatic transmission. Not only am I street-legal now, but I can actually converse with other drivers about the operation of their cars. I can even get a job as a delivery guy now!"
I've worked on a movie where one of the artists used Blender from time to time. It has a feature that was really useful for something very specific we were doing. He took the time to train a few of us to use it. And.. for a bit it worked okay, but the workflow was so alien that retention just wasn't in order. Sadly, this is a major problem for the adoption of Blender.
I will say, though, that I'm happy they have managed to sway my opinion a bit. It wasn't all that long ago that I'd make a fart noise whenever Blender was mentioned. After my coworker showed me the workflow for modelling that piece, I was suitably impressed. Even though it was a silly learning curve, they had a few things right. 1.) They solved a problem. 2.) They used a common file format. 3.) It worked like you'd expect it to work, as opposed to only working in bench tests. A few more wins like that and it'll easily become part of my everyday toolset.
Did the math co-processor do anything useful for gaming or anything like that? I had a 286 when I was 12 and always wondered if that would have bought me anything.
Here you go!
I don't think anyone in the world can honestly say they prefer browsing on an iPhone over a "full-size web browser".
Right, neither was the poster. He was talking about 'an app for that', not about web browsing in general.
Sound-bites are fun to react to.
If all you're looking for is "what movies are showing at my favorite theater?", and you have an app that just shows you what you're looking when you launch it, it's not like you need a billboard to blast that info and heaps of time to get it moving.
It's fun to nitpick the phrasing of a sentence, but at the end of that day what he's saying should resonate to all of us that prefer Google's homepage to Yahoo's.
It's a pity the moderation system doesn't reward consistent principals like it does knee-jerk-big-company-bashing.
I hear you. However, when you're talking about content consumption devices, content is king. This is why, for exmaple, the PS2 won its round of the console wars despite being the least sophisticated of the big three. It wasn't the best by a long shot, but it had the games library to easily justify it.
Considered the best by who? There are many portable media devices out there that are better than the IPOD both in features and price. I think you are confusing "Best" with "Has the highest market share.
Content consumption devices do benefit from market-share. See game consoles.
The issue is that it doesn't do it easily, cleanly, or by default. I could probably learn how to do it, but why bother?
Because you had to learn how to do it anyway when you started with Unix. I'm sure there were a lot of things there that you couldn't find 'by default' that you ended up slapping your forehead about later.
That was my original rant - it doesn't matter if either location is on the same file system, a device connected to the computer, a computer on a local network, or running on something in space.
It doesn't matter in Windows, either. You have to have them talking to each other, just like you do in Unix.
As for your snarky reply about me not using windows properly, once again you don't seem to understand how that shit works. I wanted to quickly transfer 1gb of files off a windows laptop in a lab, so I slapped a USB thumb drive into it. As it was the first time it had been plugged in, I was treated to 2 minutes of installation and configuration. The same thumb drive, plugged into the OSX machine across the hall immediately showed up in Finder, and I started pulling files off it 2 seconds later. Sure, should I ever plug that same drive into that same laptop, it probably won't do that. However, it shouldn't have done that in the first place. It's a damn storage device.
Okay... so your complaint is that the first time around it needed to configure itself and it works every time after that. But you don't know for sure because you've only done it once... right? And this means you know everything about how Windows works? I just don't think if I tried to make the same complaint about Unix or Linux I'd be let off the hook very easily. In fact, I know this. I've gotten roasted pretty heavily before for not instantly knowing which configuration file to go into with a text editor and which line to flip values on.
If that laptop had any sort of useful networking on it, I'd have just transferred the files from it to the OSX machine. But windows doesn't come with anything that can talk to OSX by default.
Both OS's are configurable with network shares that the opposite OS can talk to. And when I mean 'congfigurable', I mean you don't need to install anything special.
Sorry, but when it comes down to it, Windows blows for networking and file transfers.
*nix is definitely much stronger at networking and remote administration than Windows. No argument from me, there. However, the problems you're ranting about were easily solvable.
If you're setting up a VPN to transfer files, you're not using windows properly.
Hee hee. Why do I think this line was written after a hasty Google search for "Windows VPN"?
You should be playing games on it, and using a decent OS for networking.
You should learn how to use whatever OS you're working on before you run around publicly criticizing it.
Ah, you're right, I missed the "between work and home" bit. I apologize. That's a little tougher because you need to get the two machines talking to each other, and that's what SSH does nicely. One way would just be to add a step in the beginning to set up a VPN. Alternatively I think Windows has a built in feature for connecting two machines' file systems remotely, but I haven't messed with it in years. There's probably a half dozen other ways to do it. Windows can share files over the net just fine, it's not some feature exclusive to *nix.
And for the record, I AM using windows properly - I boot into it to play games. It's great for games, and not useful for anything else.
Right. You're using it properly by being utterly unaware of how Windows networking works and using USB flash drives (that only seem to require drivers whenever you use it) and email to share files between two internet-connected machines. I wouldn't want to look like a dumbass for challenging you there.
We both agreed that most of windows land involves emailing shit to yourself, and a lot of USB thumb drive use...
Explorer: \\ComputerName\c$\Documents and Settings\UserName\My Documents\
Permissions permitting, this is all you need to do. Or you just share folders.
(Of which I could fire off a good half-hour rant on how poorly windows handles mass storage devices. It's a USB THUMB DRIVE for gods sake. It's not a fucking printer! I want to plug it in, and transfer files to/from it. It doesn't need to be "installed", indexed, and have drivers downloaded for it. Just fucking open a file browser like any sane OS does. )
This is a 10 year old complaint.
I have a hard time working on windows, because I'm so much more efficient with a terminal. It's not that I can't use a gui - I'm just an order of magnitude faster using the terminal.
That and you're not using Windows properly.
The beam has to be kept on the mosquito long enough to heat it up. Now, I admit maybe I'm being dumb and missing a detail here, but why wouldn't continually aiming the beam to hold it on the mosquito long enough to torch it be considered a 'dimension'?
Yeah, but only until they make a Roomba that can go up and down stairs.
Hmm what about time? Does the laser have to anticipate the mosquito's movement?
Makes me wonder if that guy would have posted that if Slashdot didn't reward memes with the word 'Insightful'.
Yes, 40 million iPhones and 20 million iPod Touches is an insanely tiny market. It's so tiny that that iPhone doesn't even show up on a potential developer's radar.
Actually both of you are making a good point.
But Apple has the advantage of their dumbed down and artificially limited OS and well known censured third partyapplications that has been far more succesful in ways that less limited and more open OS's (like Android) hopes to one day be..
There, fixed that for ya.
Unless the batteries set something else (that shouldn't be there) off, the plane won't be downed.
That's a pretty big 'unless' you're tempting fate with...