You haven't been able to explain how the comparisons differ, because of course the same design element comparisons apply in both cases.
Haven't been able to? This is the first time you've asked! *Sigh* If you insist.Really, though, I don't see why I even need to bother. It's not like you mentioned 25 similarities between WD and the Apple TV.
Tablets are usually laid with the back flat on the table. Even if it wasn't, the not-actually-that-big Samsung logo gets lost in the reflectivity in the case. Actually a better cue is the camera is in a different placement. However, that's dependent on that side of the case of it being angled towards you. As for the shape of the case, it's compelling when viewed in straight-on-jpg-form, but in the real world you normally see it at a three-quarter view. The proportions aren't that obvious then.
The details Samsung copied from Apple aren't vague, they were very specific about it... but we already know that because we actually read the article, right?
Like i said, it looks as much like an ipad as an Apple TV looks like a WD elements
And like I said, no, it's not.
Pretty sure they did didn't they? I certainly haven't had any trouble, i mean for one thing they are different size and shape, and one of them has a button on the front where the other has the word 'Samsung' emblazoned on it. If you look at it from the back it's even clearer.
Yes, if you look for the the word Samsung or look at a JPG that's head-on of the device it's easy to spot. When it's just sitting on the desk, seen at a typical angle, you would have trouble. There's a reason the list of complaints is as long as it is.
No, it looks very much like an iPad as in one can be confused for the other. If you don't believe that despite the fact that Samsung's lawyers couldn't distinguish between the two, then take it from a guy who has both.
Indicating that, on some level, he realizes that this behaviour doesn't apply to everyone. So I'm not sure why we're still arguing this point?
You tell me! Heh. I really don't understand why it's even considered an overly broad generalization when I made it fairly clear that I was speaking from a certain perspective. From a narrow point of view like that, I really can't talk about anything without it being heavily distorted. With that in mind, I don't understand being corrected on it.
A self-moderated system will always have such holes, but Slashdot has made a better go of it than most.
I wish I felt the way you do, I'd be a happier person. I participate in a number of web forums, none of which have Slashdot's moderation system. The signal-to-noise ratio is low and people don't pile on top of each other to start a verbal war. There is much less hostility and actual discussions take place. I took that for granted until more and more people started turning up using a Slashdottian approach to conversation. Fortunately without the score, or anybody to feed the trolls, they either went away or learned how to play nice in that forum. Of all the places I frequent, Slashdot is by far the most adversarial, and I just cannot call that 'better than most'.
Well.. no. I was already aware this is your opinion.
Read that sentence again. It's about perspective.
What on earth do you think the point of Meta-Moderation is?
In it's most recent incarnation? I honestly couldn't tell you now. Before it used to be 'fair and unfair', as of two or three months ago when I last messed with it, it seemed to be a way of rating comments.
Not that it matters, none of the incarnations of m-2 I ever messed with were really ever about training the moderators. It used to punt people from being part of the mod-pool, which was a step in the right direction, but it didn't actually do anything to guide the tone of how a moderator should behave. My old account was kicked out of the pool, most likely because I modded an anti-Microsoft post as flamebait. The reason I did that? It was factually incorrect. Not long after that moderation, I didn't get any more mod points. The best part? I don't know why. When you modded something as unfair with M2, you never were able to give a reason, nor were you able to even appeal it.
As for how easy the problem is to solve, I seriously doubt Slashdot's unhappy with the way it is now. Afterall, this massive Smartphone OS flame war is making their ad counters spin. Why suddenly lower the signal-to-noise ratio now?
And that still makes it better than just about every other comment system out there, since even the posing has to adhere to some level of quality in order to get promoted
That's true, mainly if you enjoy coming here to verbally spar with people. If you're here to learn it's frustrating.
I dunno, you could do like i do. Try to post things that you personally believe or think are funny. Try not to insult other people (at least unless they insult you first =) Try not to repeat things that have already been said in the conversation unless you have something new to add. And then just sit back and watch the mod points slowly accumulate.
This doesn't address my concern of how the moderation system has biased the comment content.
There's even a small chance that some of the people you're accusing of being repetitive are just reiterating their own personally held beliefs each time the subject comes up and not just mindlessly parroting what was popular before.
On a site that's reputed to have NOBODY ever read the article, do you really think the vast majority of people posting on the site have arrived at their opinions independently? Your optimism is admirable.
Sure there are karma whores aplenty, but don't you think it's a little unfair to paint everyone with that brush?
Let me put a different emphasis on that quote:
"I see a game everybody plays to earn points"
Better?
Why would I care about karma anymore?
Ah, I see some of the confusion. I'm not referring to karma, I'm referring to the individual scores of the posts. Lots of people pose for the word 'Insightful' to appear next to their posts.
Have you read the history and rationale of how the moderation system here evolved?
Yes and I don't care. I'm not saying that to be a jerk. I'm saying that because it doesn't matter how to came to be, the big problem it has created exists right here right now. My complaint isn't that the moderators aren't hand picked, it's that they're not trained. There are simple ways to solve this, the most obvious being that there be actual consequences for bad moderation.
I've seen that before. Personally I think what happens is it challenges the dude with the mod-point to be fair in his or her judgment. At least I can speak for myself, I've done that.
The slashdot moderation is a meritocratic method to increase the signal:noise ratio for the lowest common denominator, not to only show you the opinions you agree with.
Bullshit. Popular opinion is what gets modded up around here. That's what happens when you randomly give badges and guns to people, but don't provide a means to keep them honest. Again, Slashdot's comment section is a game, not a forum for intelligent discussion. If it were the latter, the phrase "RTFA" wouldn't be all that popular.
I did give Slashdot's moderation policies a roast here, but I will say something on their behalf: I think it's great that Slashdot doesn't let you edit your post after the fact. I've been burned by this a few times, but it has made me more aware of what I post.
If asked what I'd do to fix it, I'd only make one simple change: Moderators would have to be trained. That, in my view, would make all the difference.
Slashdot, it must be said, continues to be a great source of insightful comments (a thing which is becoming extinct on the Internet lately). I think it can be put down to its great moderation system...
I'm sorry, but I really cannot agree on either point of this comment. Though we do have far fewer youtube'esque comments here, we have a mountain of comments attempting to bait the word 'Insightful' next to their names. For example, every cell phone article for YEARS always had several "I just want a phone that's just a phone!" comments, nearly always modded up. That's just one example. Now we have a massive Smartphone OS war going on where people chuck phrases like "walled garden" around. Any time there's a story about some technology, there's a big race to point out the big obvious downside, often to the tune of 'what could possibly go wrong'. I mean, really, I've seen "Life will find a way!" posted here several times in the last year. Now we're quoting Jeff Goldblum! We have people trying to be funny, that overlords joke still won't die. We have people being contrarian, afterall a nerd that's hard to impress is an impressive nerd indeed.
I could keep going, but the big annoyance I see with Slashdot's moderation is the sheer repetition of comments. Somebody occasionally makes a good comment, it gets modded up, then we see that comment repeated over and over and over again, modded up over here and over there. I don't consider that a 'great source of insightful comments', I see a game everybody plays to earn points. There is way too much posing going on.
And, yes, I'm one of the jerks that does this. How else would I post at +2?
Well, no, they still have to respond to supply and demand. Factor in competition and... no, prices aren't going to be raised. If they could get away with it, they would have raised them anyway.
Ive heard people 'defend' Apple, as you put it. I haven't heard 'perfect' or 'totally secure', or even 'invented'. Well, I have, but it all came from the Haterade Addicts.
Acting unimpressed makes a nerd appear smarter. It's risky, though, that's why statements like "less space than a nomad, lame" have a way of haunting you.
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Great! Let's see the 25+ details Apple obviously copied, WD has a case! Can't wait to hear about this.
You haven't been able to explain how the comparisons differ, because of course the same design element comparisons apply in both cases.
Haven't been able to? This is the first time you've asked! *Sigh* If you insist.Really, though, I don't see why I even need to bother. It's not like you mentioned 25 similarities between WD and the Apple TV.
Tablets are usually laid with the back flat on the table. Even if it wasn't, the not-actually-that-big Samsung logo gets lost in the reflectivity in the case. Actually a better cue is the camera is in a different placement. However, that's dependent on that side of the case of it being angled towards you. As for the shape of the case, it's compelling when viewed in straight-on-jpg-form, but in the real world you normally see it at a three-quarter view. The proportions aren't that obvious then.
The details Samsung copied from Apple aren't vague, they were very specific about it... but we already know that because we actually read the article, right?
Like i said, it looks as much like an ipad as an Apple TV looks like a WD elements
And like I said, no, it's not.
Pretty sure they did didn't they? I certainly haven't had any trouble, i mean for one thing they are different size and shape, and one of them has a button on the front where the other has the word 'Samsung' emblazoned on it. If you look at it from the back it's even clearer.
Yes, if you look for the the word Samsung or look at a JPG that's head-on of the device it's easy to spot. When it's just sitting on the desk, seen at a typical angle, you would have trouble. There's a reason the list of complaints is as long as it is.
No, it looks very much like an iPad as in one can be confused for the other. If you don't believe that despite the fact that Samsung's lawyers couldn't distinguish between the two, then take it from a guy who has both.
For a question posted on a worldwide forum this is a very geographically specific question. (Score:5, Insightful)
Meanwhile...
Remember a couple of weeks ago when we had that story about scifi nitpicks and someone griped about aliens in Star Trek always speaking English?
Indicating that, on some level, he realizes that this behaviour doesn't apply to everyone. So I'm not sure why we're still arguing this point?
You tell me! Heh. I really don't understand why it's even considered an overly broad generalization when I made it fairly clear that I was speaking from a certain perspective. From a narrow point of view like that, I really can't talk about anything without it being heavily distorted. With that in mind, I don't understand being corrected on it.
A self-moderated system will always have such holes, but Slashdot has made a better go of it than most.
I wish I felt the way you do, I'd be a happier person. I participate in a number of web forums, none of which have Slashdot's moderation system. The signal-to-noise ratio is low and people don't pile on top of each other to start a verbal war. There is much less hostility and actual discussions take place. I took that for granted until more and more people started turning up using a Slashdottian approach to conversation. Fortunately without the score, or anybody to feed the trolls, they either went away or learned how to play nice in that forum. Of all the places I frequent, Slashdot is by far the most adversarial, and I just cannot call that 'better than most'.
Well.. no. I was already aware this is your opinion.
Read that sentence again. It's about perspective.
What on earth do you think the point of Meta-Moderation is?
In it's most recent incarnation? I honestly couldn't tell you now. Before it used to be 'fair and unfair', as of two or three months ago when I last messed with it, it seemed to be a way of rating comments.
Not that it matters, none of the incarnations of m-2 I ever messed with were really ever about training the moderators. It used to punt people from being part of the mod-pool, which was a step in the right direction, but it didn't actually do anything to guide the tone of how a moderator should behave. My old account was kicked out of the pool, most likely because I modded an anti-Microsoft post as flamebait. The reason I did that? It was factually incorrect. Not long after that moderation, I didn't get any more mod points. The best part? I don't know why. When you modded something as unfair with M2, you never were able to give a reason, nor were you able to even appeal it.
As for how easy the problem is to solve, I seriously doubt Slashdot's unhappy with the way it is now. Afterall, this massive Smartphone OS flame war is making their ad counters spin. Why suddenly lower the signal-to-noise ratio now?
And that still makes it better than just about every other comment system out there, since even the posing has to adhere to some level of quality in order to get promoted
That's true, mainly if you enjoy coming here to verbally spar with people. If you're here to learn it's frustrating.
I dunno, you could do like i do. Try to post things that you personally believe or think are funny. Try not to insult other people (at least unless they insult you first =) Try not to repeat things that have already been said in the conversation unless you have something new to add. And then just sit back and watch the mod points slowly accumulate.
This doesn't address my concern of how the moderation system has biased the comment content.
There's even a small chance that some of the people you're accusing of being repetitive are just reiterating their own personally held beliefs each time the subject comes up and not just mindlessly parroting what was popular before.
On a site that's reputed to have NOBODY ever read the article, do you really think the vast majority of people posting on the site have arrived at their opinions independently? Your optimism is admirable.
I have. Notice it's not working?
Sure there are karma whores aplenty, but don't you think it's a little unfair to paint everyone with that brush?
Let me put a different emphasis on that quote:
"I see a game everybody plays to earn points"
Better?
Why would I care about karma anymore?
Ah, I see some of the confusion. I'm not referring to karma, I'm referring to the individual scores of the posts. Lots of people pose for the word 'Insightful' to appear next to their posts.
Have you read the history and rationale of how the moderation system here evolved?
Yes and I don't care. I'm not saying that to be a jerk. I'm saying that because it doesn't matter how to came to be, the big problem it has created exists right here right now. My complaint isn't that the moderators aren't hand picked, it's that they're not trained. There are simple ways to solve this, the most obvious being that there be actual consequences for bad moderation.
I've seen that before. Personally I think what happens is it challenges the dude with the mod-point to be fair in his or her judgment. At least I can speak for myself, I've done that.
The slashdot moderation is a meritocratic method to increase the signal:noise ratio for the lowest common denominator, not to only show you the opinions you agree with.
Bullshit. Popular opinion is what gets modded up around here. That's what happens when you randomly give badges and guns to people, but don't provide a means to keep them honest. Again, Slashdot's comment section is a game, not a forum for intelligent discussion. If it were the latter, the phrase "RTFA" wouldn't be all that popular.
I did give Slashdot's moderation policies a roast here, but I will say something on their behalf: I think it's great that Slashdot doesn't let you edit your post after the fact. I've been burned by this a few times, but it has made me more aware of what I post.
If asked what I'd do to fix it, I'd only make one simple change: Moderators would have to be trained. That, in my view, would make all the difference.
Slashdot, it must be said, continues to be a great source of insightful comments (a thing which is becoming extinct on the Internet lately). I think it can be put down to its great moderation system...
I'm sorry, but I really cannot agree on either point of this comment. Though we do have far fewer youtube'esque comments here, we have a mountain of comments attempting to bait the word 'Insightful' next to their names. For example, every cell phone article for YEARS always had several "I just want a phone that's just a phone!" comments, nearly always modded up. That's just one example. Now we have a massive Smartphone OS war going on where people chuck phrases like "walled garden" around. Any time there's a story about some technology, there's a big race to point out the big obvious downside, often to the tune of 'what could possibly go wrong'. I mean, really, I've seen "Life will find a way!" posted here several times in the last year. Now we're quoting Jeff Goldblum! We have people trying to be funny, that overlords joke still won't die. We have people being contrarian, afterall a nerd that's hard to impress is an impressive nerd indeed.
I could keep going, but the big annoyance I see with Slashdot's moderation is the sheer repetition of comments. Somebody occasionally makes a good comment, it gets modded up, then we see that comment repeated over and over and over again, modded up over here and over there. I don't consider that a 'great source of insightful comments', I see a game everybody plays to earn points. There is way too much posing going on.
And, yes, I'm one of the jerks that does this. How else would I post at +2?
Well, no, they still have to respond to supply and demand. Factor in competition and... no, prices aren't going to be raised. If they could get away with it, they would have raised them anyway.
You mentioned whether or not the $100 was worth it, I said try it.
When did you read it on a retina display?
Try it.
No, it isn't.
Ummm... Are you testing this by playing the same game on both?
Did you guys know that the Enterprise is the United States' only nuclear wessel?
Well don't you worry, last week Apple announced Samsung's next tablet!
Ive heard people 'defend' Apple, as you put it. I haven't heard 'perfect' or 'totally secure', or even 'invented'. Well, I have, but it all came from the Haterade Addicts.
Acting unimpressed makes a nerd appear smarter. It's risky, though, that's why statements like "less space than a nomad, lame" have a way of haunting you.
You're speaking as though you don't have a mobile phone or a bunch of remote controls orbiting your couch.