M$ lead engineers and lawyers have undoubtedly been tasked to find ways to fight Linux and find flaws in order to battle its growth.
One obvious flaw is that it is open source and anyone can read the code. I am sure Microsoft has thousands of copied lines of code in it's software but you will never know cause you can't look at the source.
Microsoft can look for patents on existing Linux code when it finds none it creates a patent then says its copyright infringement (easily identified by copyrights dates).
Another flaw is anyone can contribute code. I am not sure of the way programmers put code into Linux but if anyone can add code, then an employee of a competitor can also add code and then sue Linux for copyright infringement.
If there is no way in tracing who added code then that's another flaw. Folks who are doing harm can continue to do harm unchecked.
I think you inadvertently made a good argument for increased security. It looks like these Iranian immigrants were asked to leave Canada and return to Iran. Instead of respecting Canadian law they bought illegal passports and headed back to Canada. The US immigration officials identified their fake passports and put them in jail. Now the US has Canada's problem to deal with.
It's easy to paint the US as villains here but I think the parents should take some responsibility for putting the boy in harms way. From reading the Toronto star interview the parents are not taking responsibility for their actions instead trying invoke pity with comments like
http://www.toronto.nooneisillegal.org/node/575
"We didn't do nothing. My child is innocent." and a comment from the boy "Why am I wearing the uniform? Why I am here?'"
I hope the mother told the boy. We are here because we tried defraud the Canadian/US government by using fake Greek passports.
All that being said, under Canadian law the boy is a canadian citizen and has commited no crime. He should be sent to the next of kin.
It seems to me that with how hard your are pushing to make the RIAA look like a good guy or to find all sorts elaborate reasons for their unethical actions, without doing any research. There must be an affiliation, a screw missing or you have a hard time getting off the coach. Since this is the case then you and I discussing the matter is mute.
Continue to support RIAA as it attacks people, kids, minorities and bends the laws and social ethics to do so. I can tell by this conversation that you are one of the folks missing the ability to tell right from wrong and excellent person to champion their efforts.
OK trailer lets get off the focus of this thread the unethical behaviour of the organized "Trade Association" as you called them and chase down some side topics. Just ignore all those unethical, quasi illegal and inaccurate law suet's by the RIAA and lets focus on stuff that has little relevance to makes you feel better about your self. You can get that oh I was right again feeling, lets do it.
Moby. Read the the bottom of the paragraph I highlighted it for you. Funny how the RIAA hasn't send the Police to Moby's mansion or contacted the poor black artist Alan Lomax about these songs which were copied. These songs are in my mind masterpieces of Amercan culture. I liked the way Moby renamed the songs, nice touch. I know trailer I am a lier and there for everything I write is a lie and there is now way Moby a white musican would use the materials of poor black folks with out paying them. No way.
Quote The song in question is Joe Lee's Rock," and it is part of a treasure trove of recordings made in the Deep South by the legendary folk music collector Alan Lomax. It was exhumed and sampled by a vegan techno musician named Moby--who titled his version "Find My Baby." The song helped push Moby's latest album to triple-platinum status (more than three million copies sold worldwide). Riveting vocals from two other 1959 Lomax recordings are also showcased on "Play," Moby's Grammy-nominated CD. One spiritual, "Trouble So Hard"--which Moby retitled "Natural Blues"--is artfully combined with synthesizer riffs and figured in a Calvin Klein jeans ad campaign featuring the pale, bald pop star. But Lomax, who is now 85 years old and disabled from strokes, has received no proceeds, his family said.
That's a civil matter
Ya got me trailer I am not a lawyer. But do I need to be a lawyer to know the difference between right and wrong. Do I need to be a lawyer to know you don't attack kids. Do I need to be a lawyer to see when a small black business gets sued for remixing songs and a rich white artist gets the copyright violation green light. Do I need to be a lawyer to see an organization is fishing ip address and pretending it has a solid case. If the RIAA uses civil or criminal law to attack small business does it mater. How is that even a factor here.
Would you like this. Your neighbour in charge of the neighbourhood watch program say you copied his lawn hedge which is his lively hood and didn't pay him. The police come take you to jail then your neighbour comes over to your house wearing a crime scene jacket with LNW (Local neighbourhood watch) on the back and starts going through your house. You now have to go to court with that neighbour a few months later.
The big question here is not that this standard law enforcement practice or that its dubious that your neighbour would put on a government type jacket (although 4 out of 5 trailer park residents may raise an eyebrow). Its what right does your niegbour have going through your house. Does putting on a LNW jacket give him that right. Your neighbour has been sued for fraud in the past is he to be trusted in your house. What stuff did he take out of your house. Will he use that information from your house to sue your mother because she has a square hedge as well. Is that a legal way to get information and acceptable to you personally. Also personally trailer I would give you the benefit of the doubt and not call you a thief on slashdot. If the judge said you broke a copyright rule, I still would not call you a thief, unlike your good neighbour the RIAA.
Would that be hundreds of posts from a demographic that widely embraces the notion that artists should have no copyrights in the first place? You go trailer tell 10,000 slashdot subscriber what they think. You got that black and white thinking down to a fine art. Remember the community your talking about. The ones who write free
Your not getting this trailer park. Chances of you understanding the whole picture is slim. Despite hundreds of posts on slash dot of charges made by the RIAA and cases that were thrown out because the charges where false or inflated. You still don't understand the concept of Innocent until proven guilty. Its sad for all those people you will pass judgment on during your lifetime. Y'all pass me some more chewing tobacco and hang that man.
The RIAA tried to sue Gertrude Walton for file sharing 2005. Problem Gertrude had been dead for over a year. I know trailer you can come up with a good scenario of how Gertrude was file sharing from the grave. After all we both know how infallible the US judiciary process is and if the RIAA says Gertrude is guilty then guilty she is.
A family in Rome, GA, (one of the 235 defendants) was very surprised when the local newspaper contacted them to ask about the file sharing lawsuit in which they were implicated. Problem they didn't own an Internet connection. I know trailer, guilty for living a building that had file sharing going on. Hey would someone play the banjo and dress my sister up real nice.
The RIAA was offering false amnesty program for a while but discontinued it when they got sued for fraudulent business practices. Wait a second these guys are just a trade association why would they be luring confessions from folks falsly. This must be another lie by yours truly, the person you never met but cast judgment on after his first post. The banjos play in the back ground.
RIAA threatens to sue a 12 year old unless the parents pay $2000 dollars. I know trailer park $2000 bucks is a small price to pay to keep your children safe. Those RIAA folks are just misunderstood, they are just trying to give that little girls a lesson she'll keep with her for the rest of her life. Man don't y'all just love those RIAA guys they are just swell. Golly trailer I hope you don't have a inquisitive 12 year old. But hey your a smart guy who can afford a computer and Internet connection I am sure you can afford a measly 2 grand.
Hey did ya notice trailer how the RIAA doesn't use the word stealing in any of its written public documents. It uses a word called copyright infringement. Thats odd don't y'all think that we'd be using the word stealing that means legally something else. I wonder where we got that stealing word from. Thats a lot of thinking us regualr folk shouldn't be to concerned with don't ya'll think.
"throughout history, have consulted with all sorts of third parties who are more familiar with the subject at hand"
Perverted Justice Has been working with law enforcement and the news to crack down on pedophiles and keep our children safe. I comment this. The third party is not a for profit business and will not profit from the outcome (besides a safer society).
This is a different case. The record companies are in direct competition with these labels as people are buying these mixed tapes and Best Buy sells them. If the RIAA attacks a competitor what are they going to say. These guys are good guys and we are the bad guys. No they are going to say they are evil pirating criminals.
You and others have convicted these people Before they have even had there day in court their accusers have had direct access to evidence and therefore to tampering of evidence. If its a crime scene and apparently it is. Then why is a civilian company allowed to tamper with evidence.
Right now many of the large corporations have law suites against their competitors Apple vs Microsoft etc. Claiming copyright violation. I haven't seen Microsoft at Apple's home office assisting police and taking apple's property out in boxes after the fact. Do you think that would happen. So why is it happening here. Simply because the defendants aren't rich corporations and an easy target for the rich corporations (via their proxy RIAA). Its greasy politics at its worst. Companies not wanting to soil there names by using a proxy to do there dirty work and compromising American law in the process.
Some of your analogies are so frigging ridiculous that they are not worth commenting on.
sad trailer park arguments
it seems to be how you argue a point, rather than on the merits
Listen trailer park, if you start throwing insults at folks expect them back. You can pretend I am the initiator of lowbrow attacks but folks just have to look at the thread to see your name calling prior to mine. When Moby remixes African American songs and record labels make hundreds of millions of dollars he's a artist but when African Americans remix songs their thieves. I am glad you have it all sorted out in the trailer park.
Let me summarize your arguments.
Because the RIAA said these DJs are thieves. They therefore Are thieves before they have had their day in court. The RIAA showing up at a crime scene wearing "Crime scene type" jackets is just a coincidence that doesn't mean they are trying to play government agency. After a crime scene has been established its OK for a private company to go in and start grabbing potential evidence from that scene, that they have a legal stake in. Its OK for a company who has a competitor to use the police to attack that competitor if that company is a small. The large company (or their proxy) must call them thieves in advance of the bust.
Go have another beer in your trailer. He is an excerpt from the the New York times article. "Kilgo consulted with the R.I.A.A.'s national headquarters in advance of the raid, and after the raid, a team of men wearing R.I.A.A. jackets was responsible for boxing the CDs and carting them to a warehouse for examination.
It seems to me law enforcement wear this type of jacket at crimes scenes so I would call the jackets police style uniforms. I know in your ghetto everyone wears Chicago Bulls jackets so the concept may easily confuse you.
Since the RIAA is handling the evidence that they will use later to charge these DJs in court, I guess your trailer park doesn't have a problem with that. I would say its a serious conflict of interest. Not to mention having a government agency guided by private business (or an arm there of) in attacking the competition.(private labels).
Why don't you write another half page of RIAA pro crap and use these weak analogies and insults to back your sad trailer park arguments.
Your comments and the comment of the previous post smell like disinformation (ignoring facts, implying new facts, attacking the accepting thinking based on known facts and insulting tactics).
fact. The RIAA showed up at a record label with police dressed in police style uniforms. Not to many disorganized trade association have that kind of power.
fact. The RIAA also participates in the collection, administration and distribution of music licenses and royalties. They have a mission and are guided by the major record labels that make up 90% of US sales. They are not just the trade association of small music label who need a helping hand.
DisinformationUnfortunately, it remains the case that Slashdot seriously believes that the RIAA is a massive, monopolistic, music publisher as opposed to an industry group that represents publishers. Was there a opinion pole I missed. Next time you have the urge to tell a whole group of people, what they think. Think again.
fact This RIAA story carried by the New York times, who do a pretty good job of researching facts. The quote the story's claim that the RIAA "hired" any hip-hop artists to do anything at all is pretty close to zero. Untill you or squiggleslash give us some information to back up this claim. It is just your opinion.
DisinformationThis is more like Microsoft hiring some programmers to produce some kind of installation CD with a variety of applications, much of which is not from Microsoft, and then the BSA busting them for piracy Actually it is not. Its like the US selling arms to Iraq and then attacking Iraq becasue they are armed and dangerous.
opinion The record industry has made millions of dollars of DJs who often just remix old songs. Now that these independ studios are now distributing through there own channels the major labels are not seeing any money. Its time to send in the dogs an shut them down.
I beg to differ. I'm a Mac user, and I certainly do wish Microsoft would get their act together w/r/t security
The are a few reasons why XP has so many security holes. One reason is the language used to create it is C/C++ and is very easy to mess up (forgetting to release memory, bad error handling, string handling etc). There are lots of programmers working late hours and they make mistakes. Some of these programmers are straight from schools and new to the language/OS. The second reason is there is a culture of malevolence that enjoys hacking and breaking things, not to mention criminals who steal information for profit (phishing/Malwear).
That being said Microsoft employs [b]Many[/b] Mac programmers who come from the Mac world. The code being produced by them is no better than the windows programmers in quality and in some cases worse. The reasons for getting insecure code is the same as for windows with one big exception. Very few people use Macs in comparison to Windows.
If the day comes where Macs out number Wintel boxes and the Malware community turns its eye on Macs you will see how insecure the Mac platforms is.
I think there is some tradional thinking about classrooms and there is definitely specific needs for each type of degree. These are just small problems to overcome. My corp now no longer has large live meetings, we stream them and archive the results, folks who are engaged with customers watch the archive at a later time. The camera becomes your eyes and your lounge sofa becomes your desk. Questions can be asked by email or a chat client.
University would need to hire more profs, who would be required to grade projects. The university would be way ahead as they could get loner programmers from these large corps who need more local programmers and no building/janitors/equipment etc is required to teach a large class. The classes could be given in the evening.
Ironically the companies that are complaining about this are in the best position to make a change. Why is it that most reputable CS schools do not offer a CS degree online. These same schools offer online degrees in many disiplines but not CS.
If any degree field should make use of this infastructure, it should be the field that evoloves it. How many smart people in dead end jobs with financial overhead would love to spend a few hours a night pegging away at a CS degree and what percentage of the population is under 23 and living in a University town.
Yes exactly we should lock all Americans in their houses and only let them out to do their 12 hours of work. We should alow them only to interact with gouverment authorized people and eat gouverment authorized food. That is the only way they will be safe.
When Hotmail first came out I loved it. A free good service. Then M$ bought them out. M$ restricted the disk space and tried to get people to pay for the service. M$ then disallowed mail clients from connecting to the service unless they payed for the service upgrade. Then spam started coming in waves to hotmail accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if M$ sold the mailing list to vendors for a few $, hoping that people would upgrade to the pay service due to the full inboxes. A double profit.
People instead moved to better services like GMail. GMail gave lots of space so M$ followed suit as it lost users. Now they are what? our pals and are going to let us connect again to their hotmail servers and use the new client software.
M$ is a 2 dollar whore. The chance I run one more M$ program than I have to is slim to none.
If it's a decision to take tenofovir for $417 and I may be safe from Aids but not from the other sexualy transmitted diseases and Condoms for 50 cents for good STD coverage , I'll wrap that rascal every time.
The cost of a media center PC is pretty close to a normal PC. The fact that computer stores add an extra few hundred bucks is just business as normal. Shop elsewhere. The savy computer geek can roll his own stone for cheaper than the cost of a regular PC. This is made possible by the fact that XP MCE edition is actually cheaper than XP Pro if you buy MCE hardware (a 20 dollar remote). Add to that a compatable capture card (35$) and shabang free Tivo no monthly subscriptions and a piece of mind that you have beaten the man.
Microsoft and the Digital Media group have been flogging these set top boxes for years. So now Intel is flogging them and stuck the name Viva and everyone is going to run out and buy them. It feels like I am watching a late night TV infomercial.
I have a Media Center Edition PC in the living room and I surf the net, do office documents, watch TV and record shows when I am out of the house. I do it because it's free. The other PVR option is to pay a monthly subscription to Tivo and buy a single purpose device that takes up space.
The only difference between Apple and Microsoft is Microsoft is a 10000 pound gorilla with no friends crushing all that stands between it and it's bananas.
Apple is a 300 pound gorilla with many zealot tribesmen running at its feet. When it crushes all that stands between it and it's bananas, the tribesmen cheer.
I am sure glad the Europeans are getting big bats like the US. I mean those terrorist are pretty dangerous with their bent AK47s, shoe bombs and WW2 rocket launchers. The chance that US or Britian will fight with each other or any other country that can put up a fight is slim. Why fight someone if there is a chance you might get hurt.
The chances that dirty bombs and snipers will come to a nieghbour hood near you is large. Not to sure the big ship is going be much help.
.NET is a development/execution framework and Linux is an OS..NET runs on Linux and Windows. Web applications developed with.NET have an.aspx suffix. Take a close look at the Orkut web site.
Yeah I would worship him too if I was making cash hand over fist with rising stock prices and cool new products. I'd work my ass off and put on a clean tee shirt every morning (well maybe every second morning)
M$ suffers from the same bad ethics internally as they do externally. Greedy managers and flat stock prices. As economic times swing to lows as they did a few years ago, M$ gives lower compensation to appease stock holders (Bill, Steve, others) despite the long hours the employees put in and despite a policy of compensation bases on performance. When the economic times get stronger the employees remember the shaft they received and leave. The result is M$ is shy quite a few experienced employees. The employees who stay are less experienced and the experience employees say hey I'd rather be home with my TV/Wife/Video Game/Beer instead of putting in ridiculous hours.
You can't ship products on time with inexperienced employees and experienced employees who aren't going to go the extra mile for an unethical company.
"our future security is going to depend increasingly on identifying and catching the shadowy figures who exist primarily in the elusive online world."
I figure our future security is going to depend on our ability to prosecute top government officials who break laws with impunity resulting in many deaths mostly undocumented, domestic spying, torture, leaking Secrets, etc etc.
I guess this means they won't be liable for any legal actions. I'd like to see a sopena of their records so we can see whom they sold their illegally gotten data. I wonder how many reputable businesses use this kind of info.
They have the tools and infrastructure to start another venture on the lawless wild wild web, so we can expect to see them again when the heat is off, if this is more than postering.
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You should go stand with some of the US citizens in Guatanomo bay.
M$ lead engineers and lawyers have undoubtedly been tasked to find ways to fight Linux and find flaws in order to battle its growth. One obvious flaw is that it is open source and anyone can read the code. I am sure Microsoft has thousands of copied lines of code in it's software but you will never know cause you can't look at the source. Microsoft can look for patents on existing Linux code when it finds none it creates a patent then says its copyright infringement (easily identified by copyrights dates). Another flaw is anyone can contribute code. I am not sure of the way programmers put code into Linux but if anyone can add code, then an employee of a competitor can also add code and then sue Linux for copyright infringement. If there is no way in tracing who added code then that's another flaw. Folks who are doing harm can continue to do harm unchecked.
I think you inadvertently made a good argument for increased security. It looks like these Iranian immigrants were asked to leave Canada and return to Iran. Instead of respecting Canadian law they bought illegal passports and headed back to Canada. The US immigration officials identified their fake passports and put them in jail. Now the US has Canada's problem to deal with. It's easy to paint the US as villains here but I think the parents should take some responsibility for putting the boy in harms way. From reading the Toronto star interview the parents are not taking responsibility for their actions instead trying invoke pity with comments like http://www.toronto.nooneisillegal.org/node/575
"We didn't do nothing. My child is innocent." and a comment from the boy "Why am I wearing the uniform? Why I am here?'"
I hope the mother told the boy. We are here because we tried defraud the Canadian/US government by using fake Greek passports.
All that being said, under Canadian law the boy is a canadian citizen and has commited no crime. He should be sent to the next of kin.
It seems to me that with how hard your are pushing to make the RIAA look like a good guy or to find all sorts elaborate reasons for their unethical actions, without doing any research. There must be an affiliation, a screw missing or you have a hard time getting off the coach. Since this is the case then you and I discussing the matter is mute.
Continue to support RIAA as it attacks people, kids, minorities and bends the laws and social ethics to do so. I can tell by this conversation that you are one of the folks missing the ability to tell right from wrong and excellent person to champion their efforts.
OK trailer lets get off the focus of this thread the unethical behaviour of the organized "Trade Association" as you called them and chase down some side topics. Just ignore all those unethical, quasi illegal and inaccurate law suet's by the RIAA and lets focus on stuff that has little relevance to makes you feel better about your self. You can get that oh I was right again feeling, lets do it.
Moby. Read the the bottom of the paragraph I highlighted it for you. Funny how the RIAA hasn't send the Police to Moby's mansion or contacted the poor black artist Alan Lomax about these songs which were copied. These songs are in my mind masterpieces of Amercan culture. I liked the way Moby renamed the songs, nice touch. I know trailer I am a lier and there for everything I write is a lie and there is now way Moby a white musican would use the materials of poor black folks with out paying them. No way.
http://www.blues.co.nz/news/article.php?id=341
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The song in question is Joe Lee's Rock," and it is part of a treasure trove of recordings made in the Deep South by the legendary folk music collector Alan Lomax. It was exhumed and sampled by a vegan techno musician named Moby--who titled his version "Find My Baby." The song helped push Moby's latest album to triple-platinum status (more than three million copies sold worldwide).
Riveting vocals from two other 1959 Lomax recordings are also showcased on "Play," Moby's Grammy-nominated CD. One spiritual, "Trouble So Hard"--which Moby retitled "Natural Blues"--is artfully combined with synthesizer riffs and figured in a Calvin Klein jeans ad campaign featuring the pale, bald pop star. But Lomax, who is now 85 years old and disabled from strokes, has received no proceeds, his family said.
That's a civil matter
Ya got me trailer I am not a lawyer. But do I need to be a lawyer to know the difference between right and wrong. Do I need to be a lawyer to know you don't attack kids. Do I need to be a lawyer to see when a small black business gets sued for remixing songs and a rich white artist gets the copyright violation green light. Do I need to be a lawyer to see an organization is fishing ip address and pretending it has a solid case. If the RIAA uses civil or criminal law to attack small business does it mater. How is that even a factor here.
Would you like this. Your neighbour in charge of the neighbourhood watch program say you copied his lawn hedge which is his lively hood and didn't pay him. The police come take you to jail then your neighbour comes over to your house wearing a crime scene jacket with LNW (Local neighbourhood watch) on the back and starts going through your house. You now have to go to court with that neighbour a few months later.
The big question here is not that this standard law enforcement practice or that its dubious that your neighbour would put on a government type jacket (although 4 out of 5 trailer park residents may raise an eyebrow). Its what right does your niegbour have going through your house. Does putting on a LNW jacket give him that right. Your neighbour has been sued for fraud in the past is he to be trusted in your house. What stuff did he take out of your house. Will he use that information from your house to sue your mother because she has a square hedge as well. Is that a legal way to get information and acceptable to you personally. Also personally trailer I would give you the benefit of the doubt and not call you a thief on slashdot. If the judge said you broke a copyright rule, I still would not call you a thief, unlike your good neighbour the RIAA.
Would that be hundreds of posts from a demographic that widely embraces the notion that artists should have no copyrights in the first place? You go trailer tell 10,000 slashdot subscriber what they think. You got that black and white thinking down to a fine art. Remember the community your talking about. The ones who write free
Your not getting this trailer park. Chances of you understanding the whole picture is slim. Despite hundreds of posts on slash dot of charges made by the RIAA and cases that were thrown out because the charges where false or inflated. You still don't understand the concept of Innocent until proven guilty. Its sad for all those people you will pass judgment on during your lifetime. Y'all pass me some more chewing tobacco and hang that man.
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The RIAA tried to sue Gertrude Walton for file sharing 2005. Problem Gertrude had been dead for over a year. I know trailer you can come up with a good scenario of how Gertrude was file sharing from the grave. After all we both know how infallible the US judiciary process is and if the RIAA says Gertrude is guilty then guilty she is.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/05/riaa_sues
A family in Rome, GA, (one of the 235 defendants) was very surprised when the local newspaper contacted them to ask about the file sharing lawsuit in which they were implicated. Problem they didn't own an Internet connection. I know trailer, guilty for living a building that had file sharing going on. Hey would someone play the banjo and dress my sister up real nice.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060424-666
The RIAA was offering false amnesty program for a while but discontinued it when they got sued for fraudulent business practices. Wait a second these guys are just a trade association why would they be luring confessions from folks falsly. This must be another lie by yours truly, the person you never met but cast judgment on after his first post. The banjos play in the back ground.
http://blogs.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/001435.ph
or
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,112428-page,1/a
RIAA threatens to sue a 12 year old unless the parents pay $2000 dollars. I know trailer park $2000 bucks is a small price to pay to keep your children safe. Those RIAA folks are just misunderstood, they are just trying to give that little girls a lesson she'll keep with her for the rest of her life. Man don't y'all just love those RIAA guys they are just swell. Golly trailer I hope you don't have a inquisitive 12 year old. But hey your a smart guy who can afford a computer and Internet connection I am sure you can afford a measly 2 grand.
http://news.com.com/RIAA+settles+with+12-year-old
Hey did ya notice trailer how the RIAA doesn't use the word stealing in any of its written public documents. It uses a word called copyright infringement. Thats odd don't y'all think that we'd be using the word stealing that means legally something else. I wonder where we got that stealing word from. Thats a lot of thinking us regualr folk shouldn't be to concerned with don't ya'll think.
http://www.riaa.com/issues%5CcleanSlate.asp
Trailer you and the RIAA are just swell folks. I don't know what I was thinking.
"throughout history, have consulted with all sorts of third parties who are more familiar with the subject at hand"
Perverted Justice Has been working with law enforcement and the news to crack down on pedophiles and keep our children safe. I comment this. The third party is not a for profit business and will not profit from the outcome (besides a safer society).
This is a different case. The record companies are in direct competition with these labels as people are buying these mixed tapes and Best Buy sells them. If the RIAA attacks a competitor what are they going to say. These guys are good guys and we are the bad guys. No they are going to say they are evil pirating criminals.
You and others have convicted these people Before they have even had there day in court their accusers have had direct access to evidence and therefore to tampering of evidence. If its a crime scene and apparently it is. Then why is a civilian company allowed to tamper with evidence.
Right now many of the large corporations have law suites against their competitors Apple vs Microsoft etc. Claiming copyright violation. I haven't seen Microsoft at Apple's home office assisting police and taking apple's property out in boxes after the fact. Do you think that would happen. So why is it happening here. Simply because the defendants aren't rich corporations and an easy target for the rich corporations (via their proxy RIAA). Its greasy politics at its worst. Companies not wanting to soil there names by using a proxy to do there dirty work and compromising American law in the process.
Some of your analogies are so frigging ridiculous that they are not worth commenting on.
sad trailer park arguments
it seems to be how you argue a point, rather than on the merits
Listen trailer park, if you start throwing insults at folks expect them back. You can pretend I am the initiator of lowbrow attacks but folks just have to look at the thread to see your name calling prior to mine.
When Moby remixes African American songs and record labels make hundreds of millions of dollars he's a artist but when African Americans remix songs their thieves. I am glad you have it all sorted out in the trailer park.
Let me summarize your arguments.
Because the RIAA said these DJs are thieves. They therefore Are thieves before they have had their day in court.
The RIAA showing up at a crime scene wearing "Crime scene type" jackets is just a coincidence that doesn't mean they are trying to play government agency.
After a crime scene has been established its OK for a private company to go in and start grabbing potential evidence from that scene, that they have a legal stake in.
Its OK for a company who has a competitor to use the police to attack that competitor if that company is a small. The large company (or their proxy) must call them thieves in advance of the bust.
Go have another beer in your trailer. He is an excerpt from the the New York times article.
"Kilgo consulted with the R.I.A.A.'s national headquarters in advance of the raid, and after the raid, a team of men wearing R.I.A.A. jackets was responsible for boxing the CDs and carting them to a warehouse for examination.
It seems to me law enforcement wear this type of jacket at crimes scenes so I would call the jackets police style uniforms. I know in your ghetto everyone wears Chicago Bulls jackets so the concept may easily confuse you.
Since the RIAA is handling the evidence that they will use later to charge these DJs in court, I guess your trailer park doesn't have a problem with that. I would say its a serious conflict of interest. Not to mention having a government agency guided by private business (or an arm there of) in attacking the competition.(private labels).
Why don't you write another half page of RIAA pro crap and use these weak analogies and insults to back your sad trailer park arguments.
Your comments and the comment of the previous post smell like disinformation (ignoring facts, implying new facts, attacking the accepting thinking based on known facts and insulting tactics).
fact. The RIAA showed up at a record label with police dressed in police style uniforms. Not to many disorganized trade association have that kind of power.
fact. The RIAA also participates in the collection, administration and distribution of music licenses and royalties. They have a mission and are guided by the major record labels that make up 90% of US sales. They are not just the trade association of small music label who need a helping hand.
Disinformation Unfortunately, it remains the case that Slashdot seriously believes that the RIAA is a massive, monopolistic, music publisher as opposed to an industry group that represents publishers. Was there a opinion pole I missed. Next time you have the urge to tell a whole group of people, what they think. Think again.
fact This RIAA story carried by the New York times, who do a pretty good job of researching facts. The quote the story's claim that the RIAA "hired" any hip-hop artists to do anything at all is pretty close to zero. Untill you or squiggleslash give us some information to back up this claim. It is just your opinion.
Disinformation This is more like Microsoft hiring some programmers to produce some kind of installation CD with a variety of applications, much of which is not from Microsoft, and then the BSA busting them for piracy Actually it is not. Its like the US selling arms to Iraq and then attacking Iraq becasue they are armed and dangerous.
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The record industry has made millions of dollars of DJs who often just remix old songs. Now that these independ studios are now distributing through there own channels the major labels are not seeing any money. Its time to send in the dogs an shut them down.
I beg to differ. I'm a Mac user, and I certainly do wish Microsoft would get their act together w/r/t security
The are a few reasons why XP has so many security holes. One reason is the language used to create it is C/C++ and is very easy to mess up (forgetting to release memory, bad error handling, string handling etc). There are lots of programmers working late hours and they make mistakes. Some of these programmers are straight from schools and new to the language/OS. The second reason is there is a culture of malevolence that enjoys hacking and breaking things, not to mention criminals who steal information for profit (phishing/Malwear).
That being said Microsoft employs [b]Many[/b] Mac programmers who come from the Mac world. The code being produced by them is no better than the windows programmers in quality and in some cases worse. The reasons for getting insecure code is the same as for windows with one big exception. Very few people use Macs in comparison to Windows.
If the day comes where Macs out number Wintel boxes and the Malware community turns its eye on Macs you will see how insecure the Mac platforms is.
University would need to hire more profs, who would be required to grade projects. The university would be way ahead as they could get loner programmers from these large corps who need more local programmers and no building/janitors/equipment etc is required to teach a large class. The classes could be given in the evening.
If any degree field should make use of this infastructure, it should be the field that evoloves it. How many smart people in dead end jobs with financial overhead would love to spend a few hours a night pegging away at a CS degree and what percentage of the population is under 23 and living in a University town.
Yes exactly we should lock all Americans in their houses and only let them out to do their 12 hours of work. We should alow them only to interact with gouverment authorized people and eat gouverment authorized food. That is the only way they will be safe.
People instead moved to better services like GMail. GMail gave lots of space so M$ followed suit as it lost users. Now they are what? our pals and are going to let us connect again to their hotmail servers and use the new client software.
M$ is a 2 dollar whore. The chance I run one more M$ program than I have to is slim to none.
If it's a decision to take tenofovir for $417 and I may be safe from Aids but not from the other sexualy transmitted diseases and Condoms for 50 cents for good STD coverage , I'll wrap that rascal every time.
The cost of a media center PC is pretty close to a normal PC. The fact that computer stores add an extra few hundred bucks is just business as normal. Shop elsewhere. The savy computer geek can roll his own stone for cheaper than the cost of a regular PC. This is made possible by the fact that XP MCE edition is actually cheaper than XP Pro if you buy MCE hardware (a 20 dollar remote). Add to that a compatable capture card (35$) and shabang free Tivo no monthly subscriptions and a piece of mind that you have beaten the man.
I have a Media Center Edition PC in the living room and I surf the net, do office documents, watch TV and record shows when I am out of the house. I do it because it's free. The other PVR option is to pay a monthly subscription to Tivo and buy a single purpose device that takes up space.
Apple is a 300 pound gorilla with many zealot tribesmen running at its feet. When it crushes all that stands between it and it's bananas, the tribesmen cheer.
Yes the food is good but there is no atmosphere.
The missing link is in the cubical beside me. The pungent smell of pits combined with grunting and keyboard pounding are a sure sign.
The chances that dirty bombs and snipers will come to a nieghbour hood near you is large. Not to sure the big ship is going be much help.
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M$ suffers from the same bad ethics internally as they do externally. Greedy managers and flat stock prices. As economic times swing to lows as they did a few years ago, M$ gives lower compensation to appease stock holders (Bill, Steve, others) despite the long hours the employees put in and despite a policy of compensation bases on performance. When the economic times get stronger the employees remember the shaft they received and leave. The result is M$ is shy quite a few experienced employees. The employees who stay are less experienced and the experience employees say hey I'd rather be home with my TV/Wife/Video Game/Beer instead of putting in ridiculous hours.
You can't ship products on time with inexperienced employees and experienced employees who aren't going to go the extra mile for an unethical company.
M$ is a victim of itself.
I figure our future security is going to depend on our ability to prosecute top government officials who break laws with impunity resulting in many deaths mostly undocumented, domestic spying, torture, leaking Secrets, etc etc.
I guess this means they won't be liable for any legal actions. I'd like to see a sopena of their records so we can see whom they sold their illegally gotten data. I wonder how many reputable businesses use this kind of info. They have the tools and infrastructure to start another venture on the lawless wild wild web, so we can expect to see them again when the heat is off, if this is more than postering.