Nice find. Of course, the story got twisted to "he got arrested for computer hacking and espionage", where the actual story was that he just pulled the plug on his site voluntarily.
Far too many terms of services require you to give up a limb and your first-born child for this to mean much.
Oh, because other terms are abusive, we should just ignore this one? The only way things are going to be less abusive is when people refuse what is being offered because of them.
And of course, consider that Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo to an extent are still competitors. They're not going to go cartel on all new search engines, and notice the "if" at the beginning of the clause.
Even if they are competitors, they would happily lock out any new competitors. The fact that they have granted themselves this patent capability, and given all the abusive patent bullshit we've seen recently, there's no reason to trust them. They could easily just have given everybody a royalty free license on any patents related to this spec. If you let the lawyers and executives be corporate assholes, that's what they'll be.
Less of the Chicken Little sky is falling, please!
The short summary: The "Sponsors" (read: cartel) may have patents on this crap. You can, for now, use the crap royalty free for markup only if you follow the standard. Non-cartel search engines are not granted such rights. In addition, future versions may not be royalty free. Your existing markup is safe, but any new versions or pages won't be.
The actual fine print:
In addition, if the Sponsors have patent claims that are necessarily infringed by including markup of structured data in a webpage, where the markup is based on and strictly complies with the Schema, they grant an option to receive a license under reasonable and non-discriminatory terms without royalty, solely for the purpose of including markup of structured data in a webpage, where the markup is based on and strictly complies with the Schema. [..] Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Sponsors agree that no change that we make to these Terms of Service will terminate or modify the license granted under paragraph 1 above with respect to any use or implementation of the Schema occurring prior to the date that the change is published.
Well here's the citation for the Guardian article: "So ubiquitous has the FBI informant network become that Eric Corley, who publishes the hacker quarterly, 2600, has estimated that 25% of hackers in the US may have been recruited by the federal authorities to be their eyes and ears."
Wow, I'm convinced. Clearly this "fact" needs to be shouted out in headlines for "news" articles around the world, along with inflammatory references to Adrian Lamo.
Lamo, by the way, denies being a pre-existing informant and says instead he was just following his conscience (which is entirely plausible, given the scope of the leak). If you want to talk about informants, a much better example would have been Albert Gonzalez.
You need to start with a solid flexible, possibly somewhat complicated design but with the intent and proper planning to only implement a simple subset of the design at first. Then it can grow into the full-blown design over time.
It's pretty much impossible to figure out exactly how much complexity you need to start and where the design will end up going. You can take a guess, but there's a good chance you'll be wrong. Software grows organically.
The reason the bubble burst is because it was a bubble. Lots of hype over new technology, with lots of people investing in anything Internet related, regardless of merit.
The other thing is that even if every project had merit, with any new "gold rush" industry there's always going to be a shakeout period where there are lots of losers and a few winners. That's just the nature of fierce competition.
What's not so sad is that there's no need for classes anymore. It's all online now. Yes, you should be teaching yourself. Most of what you need to know you'll end up learning outside the classroom, anyways.
Microsoft at least has an official homebrew methodology. That's more than can be said for Nintendo.
It's also rather disingenuous to say Nintendo "lets people use homebrew as they please", as they have repeatedly blocked the various ways that people came up with to run homebrew, including deleting any homebrew they found on system updates. About the only thing they don't do is ban people from online.
If they wanted to make it easy to do homebrew, they'd allow it as built-in functionality. Instead, they keep on trying to lock users out of their devices, and keep going after the companies that allow homebrew (and piracy, because Nintendo doesn't separate the two).
I am wondering if there is any vacancy in the ivory tower you are living in.
I didn't say everything was perfect. I was just trying to inject some reality into your one-sided rant.
First, social services in this country are horrible. So many people fall through the cracks here its not funny.
It's patchwork, but for the most part people aren't starving on the streets. If you need help, there's a good chance you can get it. The idea that you should get "unemployment" money for an unlimited time just leads to more and more people not working when they could. As I said in my last post, many countries are coming to that realization, including France and Cuba, of all places.
If you don't think politicians will pander to fucked up emotions to gain power, get back to me when you grow up.
Grow up yourself. People are pissed at illegal immigration and we had limited wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you are talking about Nazi ovens.
Funny you should mention the disappearing middle class. Sorry, I don't know any "middle class" people. I come from a rural ghetto that has been ravaged by industry leaving for other countries.
Newsflash. Middle class people don't hang out in rural ghettos.
I told him to pipe down, we only have a few black people, and we sure aren't going to make them work such crappy jobs and possibly run them off.
What kind of shit is this? Do you micro-manage where black people work?
We tried to import some Mexicans, but they took one look at our slave driving, low wage paying factories and high tailed it out of town.
Funny how many Mexicans come to the United States and take the lowest paying jobs.
Even out here in a fucking cornfield, one has to wonder why they snatched him up and stuffed him away at Riker's Island like he was Hannibal Lector
I hope they just followed standard protocol. He was also probably a flight risk, as he was on the airplane to leave when they picked him up, and it seems quite unlikely he would voluntarily hang around for a trial. He is now under house arrest, living like a king.
This is an IMF chief, a french diplomat of sorts and no NBA star. People of that caliber tend to be a bit more careful with their sexual deviancy if in fact they are deviants.
Do you actually watch the news? Many high profile politicians are not so careful. From Presidents like Clinton (a history of sexual harassment, not just affairs), to Senators like Larry Craig, sex scandals abound.
I am talking "raping the help" kind of behavior. I can't fathom the French tolerating that kind of behavior out of someone in that position.
The French that were so supportive of Roman Polanski? I guess 43 year old men having sex with 13 year old girls is OK with them, which at the minimum is statutory rape, and if the girl's story is believed, was non-consensual and after he had given her alcohol and quaaludes.
Screwball behavior is something that develops over time, it doesn't just happen in a vacuum
The man had a history of being a womanizer, but it went beyond that. In one instance, he was accused of sexually assaulting a French journalist. He also was accused of abusing his position of power to coerce a junior colleague into having an affair.
Couple that with the Wikileaks guy being burned with a screwball sex scandal. Oh what precious timing that was, no?
It's quite true it's possibly a setup, but then again, people in a position of power and fame often abuse it to their own ends. Without having been there, you can't know what happened. That's just the way it is.
It doesn't matter if you have a way to survive or not, you are off it. This doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that because you are off unemployment that you are employed. I am sure that sounds barbaric as hell to you.
There are many programs in the US besides unemployment that help people survive, such as food stamps, Social Security, Medicare, state welfare, and private organizations. The problem that countries like France and Greece are facing is that they can't afford their socialist programs, and even countries like Cuba are realizing that when people don't have to work to make a living, many of them don't.
You are pretty close to the mark when you mentioned Nazis and conservatives here, the only thing they are missing is the yearning to throw Jews in an oven. Instead, they want to throw Mexicans and Arabs in one.
You mean because we don't want an open border with Mexico and have fought some wars in Arab countries? I don't see genocide as the motivation here.
We have a really fucked up idea of what freedom is and we will kill you if you don't agree with us on it.
Such as? Has anybody tried to kill you?
Here's the problem, every adult that is worth their salt here has two jobs at least to make ends meet.
I don't know anybody middle class person that has two jobs to make ends meet. Then again, I've known many people who live beyond their means and go into debt.
The whole story smacked of a set up to me right from the start, but people here are idiots and believe anything in the news that gets spoon fed to them.
How do you know he's not actually guilty? I won't presume he is, but I won't presume he isn't. It's pretty much he said, she said.
Yeah, sometimes it's dry as hell and the callers are often painful
I haven't watched it in years, but it's probably still the same now. The problem is the hosts are too polite with the callers. They just need to cut them off very quickly.
I remember watching Larry King, and the man was just brutal about cutting people off -- but it kept the show running smoothly. Say what you will about his programming, but he knew how to run the show successfully.
Me too. So you basically have to kill the bully or put him in a wheelchair when he's down, because even if you fuck him up real bad, he's gonna be pissed when he recovers.
HBGary Federal put together a presentation about methods that could be used.
The information in that presentation alone is good evidence for conspiracy to commit crimes by HBGary. If the tables were turned, and that presentation was directed against government targets, you could bet your ass there would be people going to jail.
"You can't sell a branded product without using its brand name, that is, its trademark. Supposing that Perryman sold only Beanie Babies ⦠we would find it impossible to understand how she could be thought to be blurring, tarnishing, or otherwise free riding to any significant extent on Ty's investment in its mark. To say she was would amount to saying that if a used car dealer truthfully advertised that it sold Toyotas, or if a muffler manufacturer truthfully advertised that it specialized in making mufflers for installation in Toyotas, Toyota would have a claim of trademark infringement."
But if you are profiting from doing it, then that's not fair use.
Umm, people profit all the time by selling trademarked goods, and they advertise what they are selling by using the trademarks in a perfectly legal manner. Thankfully there's a limit to "intellectual property" laws.
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Nice find. Of course, the story got twisted to "he got arrested for computer hacking and espionage", where the actual story was that he just pulled the plug on his site voluntarily.
Probably just a refurb that they repacked and sold as new. Happens all the time.
Jobs comes across as the greediest villain (black turtleneck sans fluffy white cat) since the early days of Bill Gates
I think he'd make an excellent impression of this guy if he donned a cape with a hood.
Far too many terms of services require you to give up a limb and your first-born child for this to mean much.
Oh, because other terms are abusive, we should just ignore this one? The only way things are going to be less abusive is when people refuse what is being offered because of them.
And of course, consider that Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo to an extent are still competitors. They're not going to go cartel on all new search engines, and notice the "if" at the beginning of the clause.
Even if they are competitors, they would happily lock out any new competitors. The fact that they have granted themselves this patent capability, and given all the abusive patent bullshit we've seen recently, there's no reason to trust them. They could easily just have given everybody a royalty free license on any patents related to this spec. If you let the lawyers and executives be corporate assholes, that's what they'll be.
Less of the Chicken Little sky is falling, please!
Less bending over, please.
You're right, it is a trap, but it gets worse:
The short summary: The "Sponsors" (read: cartel) may have patents on this crap. You can, for now, use the crap royalty free for markup only if you follow the standard. Non-cartel search engines are not granted such rights. In addition, future versions may not be royalty free. Your existing markup is safe, but any new versions or pages won't be.
The actual fine print:
In addition, if the Sponsors have patent claims that are necessarily infringed by including markup of structured data in a webpage, where the markup is based on and strictly complies with the Schema, they grant an option to receive a license under reasonable and non-discriminatory terms without royalty, solely for the purpose of including markup of structured data in a webpage, where the markup is based on and strictly complies with the Schema. [..] Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Sponsors agree that no change that we make to these Terms of Service will terminate or modify the license granted under paragraph 1 above with respect to any use or implementation of the Schema occurring prior to the date that the change is published.
I'm actually ok with google deciding things.
I'm not. Don't trust any company any further than you can throw them. Google has already walked pretty far down the path of corporate evil.
Seriously, I expect this will be modded into oblivion
Of course it wasn't, because you used the karma-whoring trick by complaining in advance.
because Slashdot hates Sony and loves anyone who sticks it to the man (see also: Wikileaks, Anonymous, etc).
Actually, there have been quite a few posts, highly moderated no less, that have disparaged the hackers. Done without karma-whoring, too.
Well here's the citation for the Guardian article: "So ubiquitous has the FBI informant network become that Eric Corley, who publishes the hacker quarterly, 2600, has estimated that 25% of hackers in the US may have been recruited by the federal authorities to be their eyes and ears."
Wow, I'm convinced. Clearly this "fact" needs to be shouted out in headlines for "news" articles around the world, along with inflammatory references to Adrian Lamo.
Lamo, by the way, denies being a pre-existing informant and says instead he was just following his conscience (which is entirely plausible, given the scope of the leak). If you want to talk about informants, a much better example would have been Albert Gonzalez.
Ridiculous. Christ, people, use a spell checker. They're even built-in to browsers these days.
You need to start with a solid flexible, possibly somewhat complicated design but with the intent and proper planning to only implement a simple subset of the design at first. Then it can grow into the full-blown design over time.
It's pretty much impossible to figure out exactly how much complexity you need to start and where the design will end up going. You can take a guess, but there's a good chance you'll be wrong. Software grows organically.
The reason the bubble burst is because it was a bubble. Lots of hype over new technology, with lots of people investing in anything Internet related, regardless of merit.
The other thing is that even if every project had merit, with any new "gold rush" industry there's always going to be a shakeout period where there are lots of losers and a few winners. That's just the nature of fierce competition.
What's not so sad is that there's no need for classes anymore. It's all online now. Yes, you should be teaching yourself. Most of what you need to know you'll end up learning outside the classroom, anyways.
Microsoft at least has an official homebrew methodology. That's more than can be said for Nintendo.
It's also rather disingenuous to say Nintendo "lets people use homebrew as they please", as they have repeatedly blocked the various ways that people came up with to run homebrew, including deleting any homebrew they found on system updates. About the only thing they don't do is ban people from online.
Nintendo is easily the most homebrew friendly.
Wrong: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/29/nintendo-files-lawsuit-to-curb-ds-piracy/
If they wanted to make it easy to do homebrew, they'd allow it as built-in functionality. Instead, they keep on trying to lock users out of their devices, and keep going after the companies that allow homebrew (and piracy, because Nintendo doesn't separate the two).
I am wondering if there is any vacancy in the ivory tower you are living in.
I didn't say everything was perfect. I was just trying to inject some reality into your one-sided rant.
First, social services in this country are horrible. So many people fall through the cracks here its not funny.
It's patchwork, but for the most part people aren't starving on the streets. If you need help, there's a good chance you can get it. The idea that you should get "unemployment" money for an unlimited time just leads to more and more people not working when they could. As I said in my last post, many countries are coming to that realization, including France and Cuba, of all places.
If you don't think politicians will pander to fucked up emotions to gain power, get back to me when you grow up.
Grow up yourself. People are pissed at illegal immigration and we had limited wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you are talking about Nazi ovens.
Funny you should mention the disappearing middle class. Sorry, I don't know any "middle class" people. I come from a rural ghetto that has been ravaged by industry leaving for other countries.
Newsflash. Middle class people don't hang out in rural ghettos.
I told him to pipe down, we only have a few black people, and we sure aren't going to make them work such crappy jobs and possibly run them off.
What kind of shit is this? Do you micro-manage where black people work?
We tried to import some Mexicans, but they took one look at our slave driving, low wage paying factories and high tailed it out of town.
Funny how many Mexicans come to the United States and take the lowest paying jobs.
Even out here in a fucking cornfield, one has to wonder why they snatched him up and stuffed him away at Riker's Island like he was Hannibal Lector
I hope they just followed standard protocol. He was also probably a flight risk, as he was on the airplane to leave when they picked him up, and it seems quite unlikely he would voluntarily hang around for a trial. He is now under house arrest, living like a king.
This is an IMF chief, a french diplomat of sorts and no NBA star. People of that caliber tend to be a bit more careful with their sexual deviancy if in fact they are deviants.
Do you actually watch the news? Many high profile politicians are not so careful. From Presidents like Clinton (a history of sexual harassment, not just affairs), to Senators like Larry Craig, sex scandals abound.
I am talking "raping the help" kind of behavior. I can't fathom the French tolerating that kind of behavior out of someone in that position.
The French that were so supportive of Roman Polanski? I guess 43 year old men having sex with 13 year old girls is OK with them, which at the minimum is statutory rape, and if the girl's story is believed, was non-consensual and after he had given her alcohol and quaaludes.
Screwball behavior is something that develops over time, it doesn't just happen in a vacuum
The man had a history of being a womanizer, but it went beyond that. In one instance, he was accused of sexually assaulting a French journalist. He also was accused of abusing his position of power to coerce a junior colleague into having an affair.
Couple that with the Wikileaks guy being burned with a screwball sex scandal. Oh what precious timing that was, no?
It's quite true it's possibly a setup, but then again, people in a position of power and fame often abuse it to their own ends. Without having been there, you can't know what happened. That's just the way it is.
It doesn't matter if you have a way to survive or not, you are off it. This doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that because you are off unemployment that you are employed. I am sure that sounds barbaric as hell to you.
There are many programs in the US besides unemployment that help people survive, such as food stamps, Social Security, Medicare, state welfare, and private organizations. The problem that countries like France and Greece are facing is that they can't afford their socialist programs, and even countries like Cuba are realizing that when people don't have to work to make a living, many of them don't.
You are pretty close to the mark when you mentioned Nazis and conservatives here, the only thing they are missing is the yearning to throw Jews in an oven. Instead, they want to throw Mexicans and Arabs in one.
You mean because we don't want an open border with Mexico and have fought some wars in Arab countries? I don't see genocide as the motivation here.
We have a really fucked up idea of what freedom is and we will kill you if you don't agree with us on it.
Such as? Has anybody tried to kill you?
Here's the problem, every adult that is worth their salt here has two jobs at least to make ends meet.
I don't know anybody middle class person that has two jobs to make ends meet. Then again, I've known many people who live beyond their means and go into debt.
The whole story smacked of a set up to me right from the start, but people here are idiots and believe anything in the news that gets spoon fed to them.
How do you know he's not actually guilty? I won't presume he is, but I won't presume he isn't. It's pretty much he said, she said.
Yeah, sometimes it's dry as hell and the callers are often painful
I haven't watched it in years, but it's probably still the same now. The problem is the hosts are too polite with the callers. They just need to cut them off very quickly.
I remember watching Larry King, and the man was just brutal about cutting people off -- but it kept the show running smoothly. Say what you will about his programming, but he knew how to run the show successfully.
Me too. So you basically have to kill the bully or put him in a wheelchair when he's down, because even if you fuck him up real bad, he's gonna be pissed when he recovers.
You're such a good little boy. Maybe the Skype people will give you some candy.
Larry Ellison is the most evil man in the tech world
Could you say explicitly why you believe this?
There's a difference between freedom and entitlement. GPL/Stallman "freedom" includes entitlement as a necessary component.
HBGary Federal put together a presentation about methods that could be used.
The information in that presentation alone is good evidence for conspiracy to commit crimes by HBGary. If the tables were turned, and that presentation was directed against government targets, you could bet your ass there would be people going to jail.
As the anon poster mentioned, that was UK case law, and a really tragic and stupid ruling at that.
For US law, elsewhere somebody in this thread linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use , and somebody else mentioned Ty Inc. v. Ruth Perryman, which goes beyond advertising materials and included the name of the website and domain name.
From the ruling in that case:
"You can't sell a branded product without using its brand name, that is, its trademark. Supposing that Perryman sold only Beanie Babies ⦠we would find it impossible to understand how she could be thought to be blurring, tarnishing, or otherwise free riding to any significant extent on Ty's investment in its mark. To say she was would amount to saying that if a used car dealer truthfully advertised that it sold Toyotas, or if a muffler manufacturer truthfully advertised that it specialized in making mufflers for installation in Toyotas, Toyota would have a claim of trademark infringement."
But if you are profiting from doing it, then that's not fair use.
Umm, people profit all the time by selling trademarked goods, and they advertise what they are selling by using the trademarks in a perfectly legal manner. Thankfully there's a limit to "intellectual property" laws.
Perhaps you missed the "Activision" part of Activision-Blizzard. Besides squeezing all the money they can, they also want to control everything.
Blizzard acted like a bunch of douchebags before Activision came along (reference: bnetd among other lawsuits)