What you mean by "Linux is easier to work"? Adding users? Installing software?.. Personally I find upgrades, RPM and LVM an utter nightmare versus snapshots, IPS and ZFS respectively. Try to run in Linux or BSD anything on network port less than 1024 securely from completely non-root (dropping privileges does mean you running as non-root) and then say what is easy.
1. It relies on kernel layer of software RAID -- very bad idea.
2. It is developed by... Oracle! at that time, when Sun not really was about to release Solaris as open source. Now Oracle owns it.
3. It is very alpha and needs way more investment, time and testing to make it nearly as same as ZFS. On the other hand, ZFS is already in production and tested with a time. We know ZFS bugs and they are very annoying, sometimes frustrating, but still it works stable, as long you do not do stupid or risky things.
If you Larry Ellisson, do you really think Oracle now needs alpha-unstable-untested-not-really-scalable BTRFS if there is ZFS in your hands?..
It is not. Because OpenSolaris is very young OS, yet it catching up very quickly. Besides, WiFi on my EeePC works much better than Ubuntu does -- i.e. it just works, while Ubuntu smashes eggs in my face with "hidden account" thing, looking for access point forever, unless you specially kick it.
Not really. First, Nexenta is GNU foundation with a different kernel. However, the way they do things is all Linux way, which is really different than you have culture in Solaris.
Also don't forget that Nexenta is very Alpha practically, and really unstable in use. Even first co-called "stable" version is very shaky, packages deps broken sometimes etc. X11 part was http://www.stormos.org/ but now server gone...
So your experience will be sort of like "broken Linux" or
"Debian release of 1999th". Don't.
Now, PC-BSD is also has ZFS running. Linux does not have ZFS, only through FUSE, which is... fun, but it is userland layer, so not really you want run entire OS on top of it.
I just think that at the moment, the only Open Source OS thats even nearly practical for typical day-to-day desktop use is Linux.
I am sorry for saying that, but please don't say a BS to the public. There is also PC-BSD, if you know it. And it is quite decent stuff for desktop. Besides, filesystem there is way more stable and rock solid, although not very modern. And TCP stack is also faster.
+1.
Moreover, Solaris was desktop OS for years in specific, professional niche. Maybe not as cool & pimp as OSX is, but certainly enough to run some industrial stuff (plants, banks etc).
Well, that's thanks to the Slashdot URL mangling -- yes, I put "user@" string in front of "host.com" string in my example. Well, yes, exactly what you do (same to me): use filezilla.:-) So we get Win7, then get opensource stuff, Cygwin for human-compatible CLI and other things...
What I want to say: Macs just works. Win7 still does not even at very little things and you still feel it is plain old Windows, just different skin on top.
Whatever memory amount you use, in Linux server I fire up FTP server, then in OSX I type Command-K in Finder, say ftp://host.com and it connects without problems. Then I do in Gnome on Linux. Same result. Then I do the same with OpenSolaris -- still works. When I do the same with windows, it asks for password, then waits 5 minutes, then says "timeout" and blows away. After few times repeat, I finally getting my directory with files/folders listed, but can not get any. Etc etc etc etc. Then it pissed me off, I got filezilla and got into my FTP.
Well, if you do that "nitty gritty" annotations, than maybe Groovy is better indeed. However, who really does need that? If you do your stuff in e.g. Jython, you usually do the same as you do in Python: write a separate lib in C/C++ (in Jython case you write in a plain Java).
For performance: then I have to check it again. Last time I've checked Groovy it was like a half a year ago and it was still very slow crap and even really slow Jython was faster in some cases, no mention that CPython was a quince faster. Maybe now Groovy is much better, so I have to look at it again. Thanks for the update info!
It also takes the worst of all dynamic scripting languages existing: Groovy is a hell slow. For the record, Jython or PHP on Caucho integrates to the Java stuff exactly as same.
I think their slogan will be "Think Different, but not stupid". I am musician for years and Jack (the only think you might find for Linux sound driver) is not for professional production even nearly.
Shortly, nice article for Linux fanboys, but nothing more. That's unfortunate, because I would love to switch to Linux in this area, actually.
The article does not says about Cube and Cube-2 engines: an open source engine, on which Sauerbraten is based: http://www.sauerbraten.org/ Engine itself is really great and extremely simple. Check it out and go play some games.
Original ThinkPads are just that great. I agree. Lenovo got it worse, but not that much I have to complain. It is still usable for that amount of money. So that's what I say: Lenovo and Apple are still on a market of those serious machines, which you can get and actually use. I've got that aluminum MacBook (now it is renamed to be a MacBook Pro 13") with 128G SSD and 4G 1066MHz speed RAM. Machine is just blazing fast, simple and nice.
Well, that's what I am exactly using: NetBeans and doing lots of C++, Python, Java on it.:-) Also VisualVM (NetBeans-based) and other heavyweight stuff, e.g. Apache Directory Studio (Eclipse-based LDAP navigator/editor/etc). Actually, Java is OK for 1.6GHz these days, no worries that much. Just make sure you have 2G or more RAM to fit all the tools in. On the other hand, thing with 2GHz / 1GB RAM on Ubuntu Linux is quite fine setup for Java programmers (it will force them to program in more clever way, ha-ha!).
But I still think that Apple is still better choice for programmers, because you can run OSX on it *and* other stuff. Yes, you probably might run Hackintosh on Lenovo, but it is sort of like programming for Windows, using Wine -- nah, yeah, not really though, since you install real OSX, but still it is contains lots of tweaks and lacks of drivers etc. Finally, I still think OSX is way better desktop OS then X11 stuff. Ubuntu Linux does really great job as well as other Linux distros (Linux Mint, SuSE, RedHat, Mandriva...). Despite of that, OSX still beats them all at desktop usability, hands down. And also I need iTunes for my iPhonee thingy to sync/buy some crapware or music online -- don't expect me doing this on Windows ever!:-)
The problem is however, that this pre-installed set of tiers is a part of your car engine. So at the end it renders that you need to add 4 more wheels and a whole wheel system in order to change a tiers by just disabling 4 previous wheels. So actually you have 8 wheels, just use half of them. By an accident you use other 4 and they are asking you to be default wheels. To avoid this, you have to setup a nice little knob in your driving place, labeled as "Make my 4 wheels default" and use it every time you got raped by original 4 wheels.
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Oh, sorry, I've made a typo. Here is correction to parent: "dropping privileges does NOT mean you running as non-root". :-)
What you mean by "Linux is easier to work"? Adding users? Installing software?.. Personally I find upgrades, RPM and LVM an utter nightmare versus snapshots, IPS and ZFS respectively. Try to run in Linux or BSD anything on network port less than 1024 securely from completely non-root (dropping privileges does mean you running as non-root) and then say what is easy.
You don't use BTRFS and that's why:
1. It relies on kernel layer of software RAID -- very bad idea.
2. It is developed by... Oracle! at that time, when Sun not really was about to release Solaris as open source. Now Oracle owns it.
3. It is very alpha and needs way more investment, time and testing to make it nearly as same as ZFS. On the other hand, ZFS is already in production and tested with a time. We know ZFS bugs and they are very annoying, sometimes frustrating, but still it works stable, as long you do not do stupid or risky things.
If you Larry Ellisson, do you really think Oracle now needs alpha-unstable-untested-not-really-scalable BTRFS if there is ZFS in your hands?..
I see Linux as ahead of it as a Desktop OS
It is not. Because OpenSolaris is very young OS, yet it catching up very quickly. Besides, WiFi on my EeePC works much better than Ubuntu does -- i.e. it just works, while Ubuntu smashes eggs in my face with "hidden account" thing, looking for access point forever, unless you specially kick it.
Not really. First, Nexenta is GNU foundation with a different kernel. However, the way they do things is all Linux way, which is really different than you have culture in Solaris.
Also don't forget that Nexenta is very Alpha practically, and really unstable in use. Even first co-called "stable" version is very shaky, packages deps broken sometimes etc. X11 part was http://www.stormos.org/ but now server gone...
So your experience will be sort of like "broken Linux" or "Debian release of 1999th". Don't.
Bullshit.
Oracle? They will: http://www.oracle.com/features/suncustomers.html
...that was ZFS, :-)
P4 2,7GHz, 2G RAM (running lots of stuff though at the moment):
$ mkfile 17m foo
$ time cp foo foo2
real 0m0.016s
user 0m0.004s
sys 0m0.012s
Now, PC-BSD is also has ZFS running. Linux does not have ZFS, only through FUSE, which is... fun, but it is userland layer, so not really you want run entire OS on top of it.
I just think that at the moment, the only Open Source OS thats even nearly practical for typical day-to-day desktop use is Linux.
I am sorry for saying that, but please don't say a BS to the public. There is also PC-BSD, if you know it. And it is quite decent stuff for desktop. Besides, filesystem there is way more stable and rock solid, although not very modern. And TCP stack is also faster.
Is BSD is open source enough for you?
+1. Moreover, Solaris was desktop OS for years in specific, professional niche. Maybe not as cool & pimp as OSX is, but certainly enough to run some industrial stuff (plants, banks etc).
Linux is not desktop OS either.
Well, that's thanks to the Slashdot URL mangling -- yes, I put "user@" string in front of "host.com" string in my example. Well, yes, exactly what you do (same to me): use filezilla. :-) So we get Win7, then get opensource stuff, Cygwin for human-compatible CLI and other things...
What I want to say: Macs just works. Win7 still does not even at very little things and you still feel it is plain old Windows, just different skin on top.
P.S. Registry is still there, right?..
Whatever memory amount you use, in Linux server I fire up FTP server, then in OSX I type Command-K in Finder, say ftp://host.com and it connects without problems. Then I do in Gnome on Linux. Same result. Then I do the same with OpenSolaris -- still works. When I do the same with windows, it asks for password, then waits 5 minutes, then says "timeout" and blows away. After few times repeat, I finally getting my directory with files/folders listed, but can not get any. Etc etc etc etc. Then it pissed me off, I got filezilla and got into my FTP.
The only question is: WTF?..
I also got some replies!! Yay!! :)
Great, I am first!!! Now I go read story...
Well, if you do that "nitty gritty" annotations, than maybe Groovy is better indeed. However, who really does need that? If you do your stuff in e.g. Jython, you usually do the same as you do in Python: write a separate lib in C/C++ (in Jython case you write in a plain Java).
For performance: then I have to check it again. Last time I've checked Groovy it was like a half a year ago and it was still very slow crap and even really slow Jython was faster in some cases, no mention that CPython was a quince faster. Maybe now Groovy is much better, so I have to look at it again. Thanks for the update info!
It also takes the worst of all dynamic scripting languages existing: Groovy is a hell slow. For the record, Jython or PHP on Caucho integrates to the Java stuff exactly as same.
I think their slogan will be "Think Different, but not stupid". I am musician for years and Jack (the only think you might find for Linux sound driver) is not for professional production even nearly.
Shortly, nice article for Linux fanboys, but nothing more. That's unfortunate, because I would love to switch to Linux in this area, actually.
It is good opportunity to make another Apple-like machines, e.g. running really damn polished Ubuntu or something like that.
The article does not says about Cube and Cube-2 engines: an open source engine, on which Sauerbraten is based: http://www.sauerbraten.org/ Engine itself is really great and extremely simple. Check it out and go play some games.
Original ThinkPads are just that great. I agree. Lenovo got it worse, but not that much I have to complain. It is still usable for that amount of money. So that's what I say: Lenovo and Apple are still on a market of those serious machines, which you can get and actually use. I've got that aluminum MacBook (now it is renamed to be a MacBook Pro 13") with 128G SSD and 4G 1066MHz speed RAM. Machine is just blazing fast, simple and nice.
Well, that's what I am exactly using: NetBeans and doing lots of C++, Python, Java on it. :-) Also VisualVM (NetBeans-based) and other heavyweight stuff, e.g. Apache Directory Studio (Eclipse-based LDAP navigator/editor/etc). Actually, Java is OK for 1.6GHz these days, no worries that much. Just make sure you have 2G or more RAM to fit all the tools in. On the other hand, thing with 2GHz / 1GB RAM on Ubuntu Linux is quite fine setup for Java programmers (it will force them to program in more clever way, ha-ha!).
But I still think that Apple is still better choice for programmers, because you can run OSX on it *and* other stuff. Yes, you probably might run Hackintosh on Lenovo, but it is sort of like programming for Windows, using Wine -- nah, yeah, not really though, since you install real OSX, but still it is contains lots of tweaks and lacks of drivers etc. Finally, I still think OSX is way better desktop OS then X11 stuff. Ubuntu Linux does really great job as well as other Linux distros (Linux Mint, SuSE, RedHat, Mandriva...). Despite of that, OSX still beats them all at desktop usability, hands down. And also I need iTunes for my iPhonee thingy to sync/buy some crapware or music online -- don't expect me doing this on Windows ever! :-)
What?
The problem is however, that this pre-installed set of tiers is a part of your car engine. So at the end it renders that you need to add 4 more wheels and a whole wheel system in order to change a tiers by just disabling 4 previous wheels. So actually you have 8 wheels, just use half of them. By an accident you use other 4 and they are asking you to be default wheels. To avoid this, you have to setup a nice little knob in your driving place, labeled as "Make my 4 wheels default" and use it every time you got raped by original 4 wheels.
Nice Lexus, man! :-)