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Star catalogs aren't data: they're the results of decades of observations, corroborations, corrections and debates over just exactly what that particular black spot on the white plate was. You want the raw telemetry from every telescope that isn't read out with a Mark I eyeball, and every plate ever taken and scientist's observation note from those that were? You want all the calibration data from WMAP, and all the histograms that were plotted to analyze them and turn them into corrections for the main data so they actually *mean* something?
Particle physics, "data" is the 1s and 0s from every piece of sensory equipment in the detector hall, beam area and points between: often millions of readout channels, each of which means something and has its own quirks and problems that need to be measured and understood with more and different types of data (calibration, cosmic rays, etc). And, these readings are taken at frequencies between thousands and millions of times per second. We often have to analyze the data to a preliminary level just to decide whether they're worth keeping to analyze properly later because there's neither the bandwidth nor the storage space nor the computing power -- even now -- to keep them all. The LHC experiments store petabytes of data per month, and storage, access and transfer costs are significant: you pay for access to those data by contributing to the experiment.
OK, now let's assume you get the raw data. Now what? Good luck with that. There's a reason scientist groups and expert contractors spend years and sometimes decades writing the reconstruction and analysis software for particle physics experiments: teasing useful results from the data are hard. If we were to spend our timing pointing out the rookie mistakes of every schmo who fiddled with the data for a while and thought he'd found something new, the work would never be done. "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle Untenable [icaap.org]," anyone?
Really? What's wrong with taking *personal* responsibility for *your own* illegal actions? I thought that was a central Republican tenet? If *you* do something against the law, *you* get punished. It's that simple. The Government price-fixing is no better than corporate price-fixing, I agree -- five year plan, anyone? Going to jail for something *you* did, though? I wouldn't call that leftist.
What, pray, leads you to believe that this was done, "on the clock?" Having been a researcher myself (I "earned" my education while mooching off several governments, actually) I can tell you that far more work gets done off the clock than on. If everyone who researched using the hallowed taxpayer dollars only did 8x5, you'd soon learn how much real research those would buy without the dedication, love for the subject and general workaholism so necessary for academic research.</troll-feed>
Pidgin for windows is pretty crappy though
It hangs quite often (more if you don't use the tab mode, and if you use tab mode, if some spammer spams you, you can't tell from the taskbar who sent you the message - it could look like someone else is sending you a message).
I use pidgin on Windows. 2.5.2 is much better for stability than before -- the only crashes I get these days are the occasional confusion caused by standby / resume.
You can't easily filter out "spim", even if you use stuff like bot sentry you still get bugged about it- which completely defeats the purpose.
privacy-please pidgin plugin is now built for Windows -- you can set it to ignore silently contact from people not on your contacts list -- they should ask to be your buddy first. I did briefly try telling it to send an automatic message telling the sender to do just that but for spim this fails and you get an annoying dialog box so I turned it off.
Re:Not supposed to be dooms day yet.
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No boom tomorrow either:
"First beam circulated" != "First collisions"
Also, beam will be circulated at injection energy (450GeV) and not accelerated to the design collision energy. Even if they did circulate beam in both directions *and collide them* (a separate activity) the total energy of collision would still be less that half of what the tevatron at Fermilab, USA, has been doing for many years. If *that* were a problem we'd already be
I wonder how many papers/emails/reports/whatever have been written where a d/r reversal typo has made its way to the final draft. You jest, but I know of one real case where a badly spelled, "hadron.F" (yes, FORTRAN -- really) made it into the CVS repository.
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[Re-post non-AC] Star catalogs aren't data: they're the results of decades of observations, corroborations, corrections and debates over just exactly what that particular black spot on the white plate was. You want the raw telemetry from every telescope that isn't read out with a Mark I eyeball, and every plate ever taken and scientist's observation note from those that were? You want all the calibration data from WMAP, and all the histograms that were plotted to analyze them and turn them into corrections for the main data so they actually *mean* something? Particle physics, "data" is the 1s and 0s from every piece of sensory equipment in the detector hall, beam area and points between: often millions of readout channels, each of which means something and has its own quirks and problems that need to be measured and understood with more and different types of data (calibration, cosmic rays, etc). And, these readings are taken at frequencies between thousands and millions of times per second. We often have to analyze the data to a preliminary level just to decide whether they're worth keeping to analyze properly later because there's neither the bandwidth nor the storage space nor the computing power -- even now -- to keep them all. The LHC experiments store petabytes of data per month, and storage, access and transfer costs are significant: you pay for access to those data by contributing to the experiment. OK, now let's assume you get the raw data. Now what? Good luck with that. There's a reason scientist groups and expert contractors spend years and sometimes decades writing the reconstruction and analysis software for particle physics experiments: teasing useful results from the data are hard. If we were to spend our timing pointing out the rookie mistakes of every schmo who fiddled with the data for a while and thought he'd found something new, the work would never be done. "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle Untenable [icaap.org]," anyone?
Really? What's wrong with taking *personal* responsibility for *your own* illegal actions? I thought that was a central Republican tenet? If *you* do something against the law, *you* get punished. It's that simple. The Government price-fixing is no better than corporate price-fixing, I agree -- five year plan, anyone? Going to jail for something *you* did, though? I wouldn't call that leftist.
The 1980s called: they want their factually incorrect viciously homophobic epithet back. Please, let them have it.
What, pray, leads you to believe that this was done, "on the clock?" Having been a researcher myself (I "earned" my education while mooching off several governments, actually) I can tell you that far more work gets done off the clock than on. If everyone who researched using the hallowed taxpayer dollars only did 8x5, you'd soon learn how much real research those would buy without the dedication, love for the subject and general workaholism so necessary for academic research.</troll-feed>
Pidgin for windows is pretty crappy though It hangs quite often (more if you don't use the tab mode, and if you use tab mode, if some spammer spams you, you can't tell from the taskbar who sent you the message - it could look like someone else is sending you a message).
I use pidgin on Windows. 2.5.2 is much better for stability than before -- the only crashes I get these days are the occasional confusion caused by standby / resume.
You can't easily filter out "spim", even if you use stuff like bot sentry you still get bugged about it- which completely defeats the purpose.
privacy-please pidgin plugin is now built for Windows -- you can set it to ignore silently contact from people not on your contacts list -- they should ask to be your buddy first. I did briefly try telling it to send an automatic message telling the sender to do just that but for spim this fails and you get an annoying dialog box so I turned it off.
No boom tomorrow either:
"First beam circulated" != "First collisions"
Also, beam will be circulated at injection energy (450GeV) and not accelerated to the design collision energy. Even if they did circulate beam in both directions *and collide them* (a separate activity) the total energy of collision would still be less that half of what the tevatron at Fermilab, USA, has been doing for many years. If *that* were a problem we'd already be