I'm simply pointing out that if you expect to be able to communicate with other people in your country about the temperature, you need to understand the temperature scale in use in every day language. Dwelling on where that scale comes from is just semantics.
I don't think I was clear enough in my post. I'm not saying anyone outside of the US should be forced to use it, or even that they should know it. I was talking about when people live in the US. If someone is going to another country for anything more than vacation, they should learn something about that country before hand. If they use a different temperature scale, it's probably a good idea to learn it.
You haven't been listening to the European propaganda enough. Your data is a lie from the Bush Administration, and until we use metric for EVERYTHING, we are evil scum that needs to be purged from the Earth. (sarcasm, in case you're seeing this mrak and swepe)
Wow, I'm surprised that article's still there. I though CNN deleted stuff after two weeks.
Anyway, just because SI was invented specifically for research doesn't mean nothing else can be used. The facial tissue was invented to remove makeup, but now it's used to collect snot.
Sooner or later, if you like it or not, the US will be metric country as well.
No we won't. It's not that there's anything wrong with metric, it's just that Carter tried to do it. If a useful president had tried, we'd be done by now.
That still doesn't explain why fahrenheit can't be used for research. What is there to prevent me from doing a water heating experiment, and making all measurements in fahrenheit, or for that matter, in any scale I can imagine.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't learn English before coming here. If you don't, you won't be able to communicate with an overwhelming majority of people here.
When you use this weather service, it displays search results for what you typed in below the weather details. I think they do this for all their special services.
When living in the US (as the guy complaining implied he did,) you'll know what the local weather guy, the weather channel, and just about every single human being in the entire country is talking about when they tell you the temperature. I bet if I went to your country and complained about them not using fahrenheit, you'd bitch me out pretty hard for not learning their culture before coming. Well, that works both ways.
I'm sorry, but if you're living in the US and you don't know fahrenheit, then there's something wrong. Either the schools you went to growing up were absolutely terrible, or you immigrated here and need to learn more of our culture.
Do you work in a government biotech lab? Or some oppressive government like North Korea? If not, I call total bullshit on your sneeze claim. Joking about that is funny, but then claiming you're not joking makes you look dumb.
No, he's saying that his company uses Cisco's VPN solution, which happens to include the need to use the Cisco VPN client on his home computer to access the VPN. It's a somewhat proprietary system. The restrictions I explained earlier apply to this client.
It doesn't matter which computer uses the VPN client, he's still not going to be able to use the network to do this, as he implies in the posting. The Cisco VPN can be set to prevent ALL network traffic that's not VPN traffic, and the setting is maintained at the company's end, so he can't change it.
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I'm simply pointing out that if you expect to be able to communicate with other people in your country about the temperature, you need to understand the temperature scale in use in every day language. Dwelling on where that scale comes from is just semantics.
Can you explain why that matters though for current research?
Heresy!! How dare you question the authority of the great diety known to us mortals as Google!
I don't think I was clear enough in my post. I'm not saying anyone outside of the US should be forced to use it, or even that they should know it. I was talking about when people live in the US. If someone is going to another country for anything more than vacation, they should learn something about that country before hand. If they use a different temperature scale, it's probably a good idea to learn it.
And as long as we're negotiating terms, is it just ships you're worried about, or do cars count too? :)
Hell, I've been waiting two hours to type it :)
In regards to Celsius, I do actually wish we would switch to all metric, although temperature would be one of the hard ones. Maybe someday....
That's a benefit of knowing it while communicating with other researchers, it says NOTHING about the scale itself...
Sound familiar?
You haven't been listening to the European propaganda enough. Your data is a lie from the Bush Administration, and until we use metric for EVERYTHING, we are evil scum that needs to be purged from the Earth. (sarcasm, in case you're seeing this mrak and swepe)
Wow, you learn something new every day. I had never heard of this scale.
That was my point. I was being sarcastic.
Anyway, just because SI was invented specifically for research doesn't mean nothing else can be used. The facial tissue was invented to remove makeup, but now it's used to collect snot.
No we won't. It's not that there's anything wrong with metric, it's just that Carter tried to do it. If a useful president had tried, we'd be done by now.
That still doesn't explain why fahrenheit can't be used for research. What is there to prevent me from doing a water heating experiment, and making all measurements in fahrenheit, or for that matter, in any scale I can imagine.
How a culture expresses the outside temperature when discussing it around the water cooler is much closer to culture than science.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't learn English before coming here. If you don't, you won't be able to communicate with an overwhelming majority of people here.
Why can't fahrenheit be used for scientific research?
Who ever said anything about knowing it outside of the US? This entire thread has been about using it here, nowhere else.
When you use this weather service, it displays search results for what you typed in below the weather details. I think they do this for all their special services.
When living in the US (as the guy complaining implied he did,) you'll know what the local weather guy, the weather channel, and just about every single human being in the entire country is talking about when they tell you the temperature. I bet if I went to your country and complained about them not using fahrenheit, you'd bitch me out pretty hard for not learning their culture before coming. Well, that works both ways.
Just because we should switch doesn't give people an excuse to not know how we currently do things.
Yeah, just like when I go to England. Just because they drive on the left doesn't mean I should be encouraged to.
I'm sorry, but if you're living in the US and you don't know fahrenheit, then there's something wrong. Either the schools you went to growing up were absolutely terrible, or you immigrated here and need to learn more of our culture.
Do you work in a government biotech lab? Or some oppressive government like North Korea? If not, I call total bullshit on your sneeze claim. Joking about that is funny, but then claiming you're not joking makes you look dumb.
No, he's saying that his company uses Cisco's VPN solution, which happens to include the need to use the Cisco VPN client on his home computer to access the VPN. It's a somewhat proprietary system. The restrictions I explained earlier apply to this client.
Yes.
It doesn't matter which computer uses the VPN client, he's still not going to be able to use the network to do this, as he implies in the posting. The Cisco VPN can be set to prevent ALL network traffic that's not VPN traffic, and the setting is maintained at the company's end, so he can't change it.