Supposedly, CyanogenMod has already been ported for it. I guess I need to look into it (maybe after I get off my lazy ass and root my G1 and install Cyanogen's Froyo on it).
Thanks for the link, info and your perspective on it!
That's funny, I had a choice of using my mod points or replying to you, guess which won out?
Well, they didn't have a -1 Whoosh mod, so I decided to say it in person (well, post it)
Whoosh dude, whoosh.
Oh... WOW! damn_registrars, apologies... and Nyder, thanks for pointing it out... seems I need to increase my daily coffee intake yet again... or just admit I'm a bit of a dense idiot...;-)
I *REALLY* want to try one... but as noted, cant find a floor model. I've read yours and other's reviews, and it seems that the device would be ideal for certain (many?) business uses... but dealbreakers would be a buggy android implementation, or buggy hardware - things one cant really evaluate without hands on use (sometimes for prolonged periods - for instance to find buggy aspects of the Android implementation).
So... I dunno... do I break down and blow $150 to test it or not? That's what I currently am pondering.
Yes, I've used one. And no I haven't bought one (for the aforementioned reasons).
Really, there's no conspiracy--It's a shitty device, I've yet to find someone who actually has found a use for it.
Cool! Where can I find one I can test? I havent found any place that has floor models.
I've got a variety of uses in mind for one, for which it is suited perfectly.
Anyway, how long did you get to "use" one to be able to come up with such specific conclusions?
Engadget's newest review is more favorable, even though it brings up the same points you did:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/augen-gentouch-78-preview?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
it's a huge disappointment in nearly every respect
Sounds like exactly the kind of merchandise I would expect to see sold at KMart. For that matter, it is a pretty good summary of the KMart shopping experience.
I was debating modding you troll or replying... you can guess which won out.
First, when there aren't cheap, low end options, everyone complains - now, when there is an entry level option, you complain.
Second, KMart sells cheap stuff at cheap prices? OMFG!!!!! So the hell what? That's what they are there for. Not everyone can afford to buy a $500 bookcase or $200 pants. If you want something cheap, go to KMart. If you have the money to spend (or waste, depending on how much), then shop elsewhere.
It's really not like people go to KMart, expect to spend $20 on a bookcase, or $150 on an Android tablet and think they are getting top of the line products. KMart isnt trying to fool anyone, and no one is being fooled or is so deluded that they think anything different than what I outlined.
For those unfamiliar with this ultracheap Augen tablet, I'll do my best to sum it up: it's an unusable POS that somehow made it into production (apparently in limited quantities). It has a *resistive* touchscreen (hello 2004), a buggy and nearly unusable implementation of Android 2.1, and mediocre hardware specs which make the G1 feel like it's from the future. I hoped this would make a decent device to play around with for Android hacking and some kernel development, but it's a huge disappointment in nearly every respect.
Really, it's not worth it, no matter how cheap it is. You'd have better luck buying an old HTC Magic (MyTouch) from ebay if you want a device to play around with (even with a substantially smaller screen, it's a better experience all around).
While your post may seem informative and/or interesting, I have a few questions to ask you:
(1) Have you bought one and tested it?
(2) Why does your "review" sound very much like the one Engadget posted a week ago (with the "huge dissappointment" part tagged on to it)?
Buy one, test it, then come back. Until then, I put no stock in your "review"
Actually it's quite impossible. Bruce Schneier wrote some nice stuff about it http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/the_doghouse_cr.html Search for the phrase "One of the consequences of the second law of thermodynamics is that a certain amount of energy is necessary to represent information." and read from there.
Summary: assume we have an ideal computer that requires the smallest possible amount of energy to change a bit, then by using ALL the energy released by a supernova, we could count to 2^219.
We won't be able to count to 2^256 for the forseeable future, so there won't be any brute-forcing AES for the forseeabel future either.
So... I still dont see the problem. I'm in no hurry...;-)
Law enforcement and intelligence were too compartmentalized according to the 9/11 commission. They didn't share enough data, didn't make it available across the board and all that. Problem is that the more sharing there is, the more likely some asshat in a place like the Pentagon or FBI can leak data from the CIA or military intelligence (NSA, DIA, NGA, NRO, etc.) or vice versa...
I agree with most of your post... well, except the phrase I put in bold which is an oxymoron and impossibility when describing the intelligence of our military leaders. Especially of our previous Commander in Chief W.;-)
You are aware of the fact that you can't actually count to 2^256, no matter how many acres of computers you have?
Really? Why not? It's only counting to 1.15792089 × 1077 - besides the fact that there are already 256bit CPUs (and have been for years), current CPU implementations can already handle it if the program is designed correctly.
The problem is cracking it, especially since the key can be unlimited length, and it's a lot of numbers to try - and the length of time it would take to do either (count or crack).
With enough computers though... I suspect that the NSA may just have that.
If you consider people coming in to drink coffee and read books and magazines in store without purchasing, they've been doing FANTASTIC!
If YOU consider that the profit on a cup of coffee is equal to or greater than the profit on a book (take into account shipping from the distibution warehouses, floor space used, paying stock people and warehouse people, etc), I cant see how it hurts. Especially if you add a cinnamon bun or some other food item to the purchase.
Nope it's less secure than a numeric password because you have to swipe the points on the touch screen. You can see the password on the screen afterwards from the greasy finger streaks.
Really? Are you really serious? I use my phone... I don't just unlock it, lock it, unlock it, lock it, etc. That means you'd never see the swipe points. I am constantly swiping my home screens left or right, or swiping my menus up or down, or swiping my notification bar up or down - all from different points on the left, right, top or bottom. So, the only way someone could find my swipe pattern is if I just unlocked the phone and they stole it right out of my hands to look at my "greasy finger" marks and could tell where it started and ended AND I had just cleaned the screen before unlocking it so the lines weren't confused with my other swipes. Chances are, if someone stole my phone as soon as I "swiped in" with my "greasy fingers" I would be more worried about things other than the loss of my unlocked phone, such as the high probability that I was being mugged...
...at which point, assuming I survive the (mugging) experience unharmed, I do a remote wipe at the same time I am calling my credit card companies to report my cards stolen and am calling my phone company to report my phone stolen.
Otherwise, if someone finds my phone and takes it, chances are either (a) I just like swiping in on the phone and spend lotsa time just unlocking it that way to do nothing or (b) I actually used the phone for something after each swipe in (otherwise, why would I have unlocked it in the first place) and my "greasy finger" swipe marks are already "overwritten" by my swipe marks from using the phone.
Add to that, the fact that I actually wash my hands every now and then, and would rarely, if ever have greasy fingers... (and my particular phone also isnt a "greasy finger"/smudge magnet like others). Now, I know the stuff in this paragraph doesnt apply to everyone, but for the reasons I indicated in the rest of this post, it doesnt have to. That's the beauty of using a phone that requires swiping, presses and pinching for just about everything.
Clearly you're not geeky enough to notice that all tv shows like X-Files, CSI and the like use 'lookalike' seals... or don't show seals at all..
Clearly you torrent your movies. The OP was talking about the "FBI Warning" in the beginning of virtually every movie on DVD and Bluray. Blue background, big FBI seal, and the FBI warning about it being "unlawful to..." (ie: make/distribute illegal copies). The seal, BTW, is on various CDs (for the same reason, with a similar message).
IN THE QUARTER. In the quarter. It's the biggest platform IN THE QUARTER.
Rather than admonishing other people to read your links, please read the story that you're talking about. They haven't caught up to anyone yet, they're just selling faster.
Ignore the 851% figure because it's meaningless. If I sell 1 phone in my first quarter and TEN phones in my second quarter, that's a growth of 1000% per quarter! All it tells us is that Android didn't have much market penetration before and it's up now.
In the end, this isn't news. There are MANY manufacturers using Android as a platform and only Apple using iOS as a platform. Apple is tied to the most hated major network in America, and Android isn't. The actual question is 'what took them so dang long?'
While, just glancing at the math, your statement may seem to be true, the simple fact is, it is not quite that simple. While Android only had 9% of the market share in Q1 2010, they had as much marketshare as Symbian, Palm and Linux phones combined. On top of that, NPD claims that Android phones outsold iPhones in Q1 2010 as well.
BUT the statistics are different elsewhere. Gartner says there were 8.36 million iPhones sold in Q1, while there were 5.21 million Android phones sold in Q1. So, even taking that more conservative estimate, it means Android phones were doing very well in Q1 - and simply, even better now.
It does make the 800+% growth figure though seem absurd - unless it's over Q2 2009.
I'm sure people in the comments will conveniently ignore those facts, especially the one about not including iPhone 4 sales. Many analysts say the iPhone 4 leak hampered 3GS sales because customers were waiting for the new model. Also, it's bizarre to be comparing an OS to one device. It's more accurate to compare Android to iOS, which would then include the iPad.
iPhone 4 + iPad = more than Android, sorry.
Nor does it include the new batch of Android based phones that just came out (check Verizon for a bunch), so big deal. I suspect if it did, then Android phone lead would increase.
And since we are discussing smartphones which is prominently mentioned in each article title and the article itself, then it would be ludicrous to include iPads and the iPod Touch (or non-phone Android devices).
I recently upgraded to an Android handset, and was disappointed to see that these features are missing. Even basic password authentication is missing; sure I can turn on a gesture-based lock, but that seems a bit ridiculous. Why can't I just implement a standard numeric lock code? Why do I need a third party application to do this - this is basic security that should be built into the phone.
I keep hearing things like that... but aren't the gesture points very much akin to where numeric buttons would be on the screen? Wouldn't that make it pretty much the same in using?
Oh, except one thing... you are remembering a pattern - not a number that "you" (notice the quotes) wrote down someplace or that is easily guessable (like "your" DOB). That would make it just as easy, and yet more secure.
Then I have good news for you! Android 2.2 supports remote wipe and various of the other features you want - all "natively" - ie: without added software. And, older Android phones support much (or all) of that with software add-ons!
I get tickled at news like this. There are numerous vendors selling Android phones, and only 1 vendor selling a current model iPhone from one provider in the U.S. These numbers also do not take into account iPhone 4 sales after it's release. Funny this article doesn't mention that.
This is not something to 'brag' about. They should be solidly trouncing iPhone considering how popular Android is becoming. It's a common thing to see Apple hardware sales decline before a new line is introduced. People hold back on buying in order to get the latest. Just look at the sales history for iPhone and Apple Mac hardware.
This is like saying all other PC vendors combined outsold Dell. It's a silly argument.
There are other aspects which offset the reasons/issues you state. For instance (1) Apple chose to be the sole supplier for their phone OS (as opposed to licensing it like Microsoft and Google do), (2) Apple thus also chose to be the only hardware manufacturer for such phones (ie: the iPhone), (3) Apple entered into an exclusive agreement with Verizon - and unlike other phone manufacturers, does not (or cannot due to their agreement with ATT) make other models for other carriers, or rebrand their current model for other carriers, (4) RIM, still owns this marketplace, because even though they are the only manufacturer and user of their OS, they sell through multiple carriers, and (5) HTC's smartphone sales are catching up to Apple's at an alarming rate (14% to Apple's 21%) which will only increase with things like their Project Emerald and HTC Vision/G1 Blaze.
So, while your facts may be correct, HTC is catching up, RIM is still on top, and finally, the biggest issue (the one you discussed) was created because Apple made certain decisions. Thus, your statement is kinda irrelevant as it comes up as "but if Apple only... then things would be different!!!" I know that's not what you said, but re-read it. They created this situation by their choices, so that's what your statement amounts to, even if that wasnt your intent.
>>>Back in the 80's AOL did not have Internet... your recollection is a decade off.
No it isn't. I never said my AOL/Quantum Link subscription provided internet. You assumed it. What they provided was the 80s equivalent - national forums, gaming, encyclopedias, and also a Usenet posting area..
Wrong, I assumed nothing:
Holy crap. I only spent $15 a month for AOL/Quantum Link back in the 80s. What ISP were you paying off? To date I've never paid more than $19 a month for internet, and hope I never need to in the future.
Meaning you were intentionally bringing up something that did not apply in the hopes that people would equate your (incorrect*) price with ISPs, or you confused the two.
*Incorrect price as in AOL did not have a flat rate service at that time.
>>>I am sure you can donate your $4K to some charity if you really think you shouldnt have received any assistance.
Sure. Right after I stop getting taxed between $20,000 and 25,000 a year. As long as I'm being outrageously overtaxed for the purpose of redistributing wealth, then I will take back whatever I can when it's offered. Just the same as I will take SS when it's offered. (For the record I support 0% for the first $100,000; at least for income tax. Other taxes can remain the same.)
Ummm... I'm not the one who said you should not have received assistance... you are.
As for "welfare for the rich" I think that's a good description. Back when I bought my 80mpg Honda Hybrid the state gave a $2000 rebate for sales tax, the US gave me $2000 for it being electric, and I was earning $90,000. I don't consider myself rich, but I'm not poor either. I should not have received any assistance.
I simply suggested that if you felt that strongly about it, that you should do something about it. Apparently you do not feel that strongly about it even though your statement indicated and/or implied otherwise.
It isn't uncommon around major cities - and the poster above apparently works in the NYC metro area. However, most people would just move - especially if they work at CompUSA of all places (I have to assume it was at a warehouse or office building or something - I'd never commute 65 miles to a retail store unless I literally owned it).
Most people in a typical suburban area dive 5-10 miles to work. Generally too far to bike, but something that only takes 20-30min. Once you get over the 30 minute mark you cross a threshold. The one hour mark is a very big threshold and most people will find some reason to move at that point.
I was a tech manager, and rent in the metro area is twice what it is where I was... or inotherwords, unaffordable. When I got my own tech shop, I wasnt given a choice as to which one. That means my options (besides getting another job) was to move into the metro area proper, and get a second job to pay the extra I would need for rent, or move to another suburb off the island, where the prices would be roughly similar and the travel distance would be roughly the same. Inotherwords, staying where I was, was the best bet. At 30mpg, it was costing me $22/day (includes bridge tolls) - or about $530 a month... which was cheaper than the extra $800-$1500/month moving into the metro area would cost me.
I was just being submitted to be moved up to Sales Manager, which would have doubled my pay, even before bonuses I would have been eligible for, and was considering moving closer then. Even started looking at places, considering the promotion was guaranteed - but of course, then the word came down that we were closing, and that ended that. Glad I didnt move, as I would have ended up losing my new (and more expensive) place once my severance pay ran out (or not too long afterwards) even with a second job.
As for:
Most people in a typical suburban area dive 5-10 miles to work.
Sadly, as those who live on Long Island (or upstate NY) know, jobs are few and far between here, which is why about half a million people commute from Suffolk County via the LIE, Northern State and Southern State Pkwys to NYC. Add about 250,000 LIRR commuters. Then of course, there's the people travelling in from NJ, CT and upstate NY. All in all, it's a few million people in the NY Metro area that stuck in my former scenario.
I'm pretty sure it's not the only area like that. Though Baltimore has a tiny population (in comparison to NYC or even Nassau or Suffolk County suburbs), there isnt that much to do (work wise) once out of the city, through the small suburban area, and quickly into rural area - meaning once again a bunch of people (compared to overall population of the area) that are forced to commute to the city to work.
DC used to be as bad, but is expanding into VA (and previously expanded into MD and towards Baltimore) a lot quicker than the areas north, west and east of Baltimore.
Areas of Texas (outside Arlington/Irving for instance) are similar as well. Though there is a large cluster of small cities and semi-suburban areas, heading out of them quickly ends one in suburban or semi-rural areas where jobs are much more scarce, causing people to once again have the need to commute longer distances.
Many other areas are not like this, but the point is, there are millions of people stuck in this scenario when one considers just a few metro areas.
Am I the only person who thinks it's insane to live 65 miles away from where you work? Even with good roads between the two, you're looking at spending at least two hours a day in the car, adding 25% to the length of your working day, unpaid (in fact, that you get to pay for). Is this really normal in the USA? If so, it's not surprising that you consume more resources per person than any other country by a large margin.
No, you probably arent the only one who feels that way.... but, look up how many people commute from Suffolk County to NYC for work (heck or even Connecticut). Or how many people commute 65 miles from Jersey to NY or CT for work? It's pretty crazy (and in the millions).
Oh, just so you understand, I am only 45 miles from the city... but I am not a bird sadly, and have to drive these not-so-direct paths that the roads follow.;-)
Of all the findings in Deloitte's market research, the most poignant was its profile of electric car "non-adopters." They have average household incomes of $54,000, live in the suburbs and rural areas, and depend heavily on their cars. There are millions and millions of nonadopters all across America. They are the middle class.
In case you are missing the point, the middle class represents the vast majority of those who buy cars, and all electric vehicles do not - and will not- meet their needs. So unless you are going to force them to buy, there is no large scale market to drive down costs.
Yes, but why? Because GM and gang cannot make an EV suitable for them. PERIOD. If I buy an EV that gets 50 miles on a charge, and still worked at CompUSA, I would be walking 15 miles a day, hoping I ran out of charge someplace near a plug - otherwise I'd be walking 15 miles to work, and 65 miles home. Even if the EV got 100, it wont get me there and back, and there's nowhere I can charge my car at work.
So... what if the cars that were being promoted to these people who were polled were the Tesla Model S or (pending) BlueStar with a 300 mile range? Then, suddenly, there's no problems driving to and from work, and doing the 45 minute charge routine each night or every other night.
With all the publicity GM and others have gotten for their half assed EV attempts, Tesla (and the... what 2? other EV manufacturers who make something suitable for suburban to city commuting) have gotten virtually none, have gotten loans (and/or small subsidies) instead of big subsidies, have not gotten media coverage, etc.
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Supposedly, CyanogenMod has already been ported for it. I guess I need to look into it (maybe after I get off my lazy ass and root my G1 and install Cyanogen's Froyo on it).
Thanks for the link, info and your perspective on it!
Best,
Rob
That's funny, I had a choice of using my mod points or replying to you, guess which won out?
Well, they didn't have a -1 Whoosh mod, so I decided to say it in person (well, post it)
Whoosh dude, whoosh.
Oh... WOW! damn_registrars, apologies... and Nyder, thanks for pointing it out... seems I need to increase my daily coffee intake yet again... or just admit I'm a bit of a dense idiot... ;-)
I *REALLY* want to try one... but as noted, cant find a floor model. I've read yours and other's reviews, and it seems that the device would be ideal for certain (many?) business uses... but dealbreakers would be a buggy android implementation, or buggy hardware - things one cant really evaluate without hands on use (sometimes for prolonged periods - for instance to find buggy aspects of the Android implementation).
So... I dunno... do I break down and blow $150 to test it or not? That's what I currently am pondering.
The CEO will probably be paid a large bonus whether he drives the company out of existence...
If the CEO is able to drive AOL out of existence, he deserves to get paid a large bonus for such a tremendous public service.
I have no idea why you were modded Funny... I would have went with +1 Insightful - though I guess the truth can be funny at times. ;-)
Yes, I've used one. And no I haven't bought one (for the aforementioned reasons).
Really, there's no conspiracy--It's a shitty device, I've yet to find someone who actually has found a use for it.
Cool! Where can I find one I can test? I havent found any place that has floor models.
I've got a variety of uses in mind for one, for which it is suited perfectly.
Anyway, how long did you get to "use" one to be able to come up with such specific conclusions?
Engadget's newest review is more favorable, even though it brings up the same points you did:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/augen-gentouch-78-preview?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
it's a huge disappointment in nearly every respect
Sounds like exactly the kind of merchandise I would expect to see sold at KMart. For that matter, it is a pretty good summary of the KMart shopping experience.
I was debating modding you troll or replying... you can guess which won out.
First, when there aren't cheap, low end options, everyone complains - now, when there is an entry level option, you complain.
Second, KMart sells cheap stuff at cheap prices? OMFG!!!!! So the hell what? That's what they are there for. Not everyone can afford to buy a $500 bookcase or $200 pants. If you want something cheap, go to KMart. If you have the money to spend (or waste, depending on how much), then shop elsewhere.
It's really not like people go to KMart, expect to spend $20 on a bookcase, or $150 on an Android tablet and think they are getting top of the line products. KMart isnt trying to fool anyone, and no one is being fooled or is so deluded that they think anything different than what I outlined.
For those unfamiliar with this ultracheap Augen tablet, I'll do my best to sum it up: it's an unusable POS that somehow made it into production (apparently in limited quantities). It has a *resistive* touchscreen (hello 2004), a buggy and nearly unusable implementation of Android 2.1, and mediocre hardware specs which make the G1 feel like it's from the future. I hoped this would make a decent device to play around with for Android hacking and some kernel development, but it's a huge disappointment in nearly every respect.
Really, it's not worth it, no matter how cheap it is. You'd have better luck buying an old HTC Magic (MyTouch) from ebay if you want a device to play around with (even with a substantially smaller screen, it's a better experience all around).
While your post may seem informative and/or interesting, I have a few questions to ask you:
(1) Have you bought one and tested it?
(2) Why does your "review" sound very much like the one Engadget posted a week ago (with the "huge dissappointment" part tagged on to it)?
Buy one, test it, then come back. Until then, I put no stock in your "review"
Actually it's quite impossible. Bruce Schneier wrote some nice stuff about it http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/the_doghouse_cr.html Search for the phrase "One of the consequences of the second law of thermodynamics is that a certain amount of energy is necessary to represent information." and read from there.
Summary: assume we have an ideal computer that requires the smallest possible amount of energy to change a bit, then by using ALL the energy released by a supernova, we could count to 2^219.
We won't be able to count to 2^256 for the forseeable future, so there won't be any brute-forcing AES for the forseeabel future either.
So... I still dont see the problem. I'm in no hurry... ;-)
Law enforcement and intelligence were too compartmentalized according to the 9/11 commission. They didn't share enough data, didn't make it available across the board and all that. Problem is that the more sharing there is, the more likely some asshat in a place like the Pentagon or FBI can leak data from the CIA or military intelligence (NSA, DIA, NGA, NRO, etc.) or vice versa...
I agree with most of your post... well, except the phrase I put in bold which is an oxymoron and impossibility when describing the intelligence of our military leaders. Especially of our previous Commander in Chief W. ;-)
Ugh! That's what I get for skimming the preview.... the sup tag apparently doesnt work. That should say 10^77 and not 1077. Sorry.
You are aware of the fact that you can't actually count to 2^256, no matter how many acres of computers you have?
Really? Why not? It's only counting to 1.15792089 × 1077 - besides the fact that there are already 256bit CPUs (and have been for years), current CPU implementations can already handle it if the program is designed correctly.
The problem is cracking it, especially since the key can be unlimited length, and it's a lot of numbers to try - and the length of time it would take to do either (count or crack).
With enough computers though... I suspect that the NSA may just have that.
If you consider people coming in to drink coffee and read books and magazines in store without purchasing, they've been doing FANTASTIC!
If YOU consider that the profit on a cup of coffee is equal to or greater than the profit on a book (take into account shipping from the distibution warehouses, floor space used, paying stock people and warehouse people, etc), I cant see how it hurts. Especially if you add a cinnamon bun or some other food item to the purchase.
Nope it's less secure than a numeric password because you have to swipe the points on the touch screen. You can see the password on the screen afterwards from the greasy finger streaks.
Really? Are you really serious? I use my phone... I don't just unlock it, lock it, unlock it, lock it, etc. That means you'd never see the swipe points. I am constantly swiping my home screens left or right, or swiping my menus up or down, or swiping my notification bar up or down - all from different points on the left, right, top or bottom. So, the only way someone could find my swipe pattern is if I just unlocked the phone and they stole it right out of my hands to look at my "greasy finger" marks and could tell where it started and ended AND I had just cleaned the screen before unlocking it so the lines weren't confused with my other swipes. Chances are, if someone stole my phone as soon as I "swiped in" with my "greasy fingers" I would be more worried about things other than the loss of my unlocked phone, such as the high probability that I was being mugged...
...at which point, assuming I survive the (mugging) experience unharmed, I do a remote wipe at the same time I am calling my credit card companies to report my cards stolen and am calling my phone company to report my phone stolen.
Otherwise, if someone finds my phone and takes it, chances are either (a) I just like swiping in on the phone and spend lotsa time just unlocking it that way to do nothing or (b) I actually used the phone for something after each swipe in (otherwise, why would I have unlocked it in the first place) and my "greasy finger" swipe marks are already "overwritten" by my swipe marks from using the phone.
Add to that, the fact that I actually wash my hands every now and then, and would rarely, if ever have greasy fingers... (and my particular phone also isnt a "greasy finger"/smudge magnet like others). Now, I know the stuff in this paragraph doesnt apply to everyone, but for the reasons I indicated in the rest of this post, it doesnt have to. That's the beauty of using a phone that requires swiping, presses and pinching for just about everything.
Clearly you're not geeky enough to notice that all tv shows like X-Files, CSI and the like use 'lookalike' seals... or don't show seals at all. .
Clearly you torrent your movies. The OP was talking about the "FBI Warning" in the beginning of virtually every movie on DVD and Bluray. Blue background, big FBI seal, and the FBI warning about it being "unlawful to..." (ie: make/distribute illegal copies). The seal, BTW, is on various CDs (for the same reason, with a similar message).
Horse. Shit.
And I have proof. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfEd180rQ
I hate to say it, but I definitely woulda considered hitting the idiots standing in the middle of the road at roughly 2 minutes and at roughly 2m12s.
IN THE QUARTER. In the quarter. It's the biggest platform IN THE QUARTER.
Rather than admonishing other people to read your links, please read the story that you're talking about. They haven't caught up to anyone yet, they're just selling faster.
Ignore the 851% figure because it's meaningless. If I sell 1 phone in my first quarter and TEN phones in my second quarter, that's a growth of 1000% per quarter! All it tells us is that Android didn't have much market penetration before and it's up now.
In the end, this isn't news. There are MANY manufacturers using Android as a platform and only Apple using iOS as a platform. Apple is tied to the most hated major network in America, and Android isn't. The actual question is 'what took them so dang long?'
While, just glancing at the math, your statement may seem to be true, the simple fact is, it is not quite that simple. While Android only had 9% of the market share in Q1 2010, they had as much marketshare as Symbian, Palm and Linux phones combined. On top of that, NPD claims that Android phones outsold iPhones in Q1 2010 as well.
BUT the statistics are different elsewhere. Gartner says there were 8.36 million iPhones sold in Q1, while there were 5.21 million Android phones sold in Q1. So, even taking that more conservative estimate, it means Android phones were doing very well in Q1 - and simply, even better now.
It does make the 800+% growth figure though seem absurd - unless it's over Q2 2009.
I'm sure people in the comments will conveniently ignore those facts, especially the one about not including iPhone 4 sales. Many analysts say the iPhone 4 leak hampered 3GS sales because customers were waiting for the new model. Also, it's bizarre to be comparing an OS to one device. It's more accurate to compare Android to iOS, which would then include the iPad.
iPhone 4 + iPad = more than Android, sorry.
Nor does it include the new batch of Android based phones that just came out (check Verizon for a bunch), so big deal. I suspect if it did, then Android phone lead would increase.
And since we are discussing smartphones which is prominently mentioned in each article title and the article itself, then it would be ludicrous to include iPads and the iPod Touch (or non-phone Android devices).
I recently upgraded to an Android handset, and was disappointed to see that these features are missing. Even basic password authentication is missing; sure I can turn on a gesture-based lock, but that seems a bit ridiculous. Why can't I just implement a standard numeric lock code? Why do I need a third party application to do this - this is basic security that should be built into the phone.
I keep hearing things like that... but aren't the gesture points very much akin to where numeric buttons would be on the screen? Wouldn't that make it pretty much the same in using?
Oh, except one thing... you are remembering a pattern - not a number that "you" (notice the quotes) wrote down someplace or that is easily guessable (like "your" DOB). That would make it just as easy, and yet more secure.
Then I have good news for you! Android 2.2 supports remote wipe and various of the other features you want - all "natively" - ie: without added software. And, older Android phones support much (or all) of that with software add-ons!
I get tickled at news like this. There are numerous vendors selling Android phones, and only 1 vendor selling a current model iPhone from one provider in the U.S. These numbers also do not take into account iPhone 4 sales after it's release. Funny this article doesn't mention that.
This is not something to 'brag' about. They should be solidly trouncing iPhone considering how popular Android is becoming. It's a common thing to see Apple hardware sales decline before a new line is introduced. People hold back on buying in order to get the latest. Just look at the sales history for iPhone and Apple Mac hardware.
This is like saying all other PC vendors combined outsold Dell. It's a silly argument.
There are other aspects which offset the reasons/issues you state. For instance (1) Apple chose to be the sole supplier for their phone OS (as opposed to licensing it like Microsoft and Google do), (2) Apple thus also chose to be the only hardware manufacturer for such phones (ie: the iPhone), (3) Apple entered into an exclusive agreement with Verizon - and unlike other phone manufacturers, does not (or cannot due to their agreement with ATT) make other models for other carriers, or rebrand their current model for other carriers, (4) RIM, still owns this marketplace, because even though they are the only manufacturer and user of their OS, they sell through multiple carriers, and (5) HTC's smartphone sales are catching up to Apple's at an alarming rate (14% to Apple's 21%) which will only increase with things like their Project Emerald and HTC Vision/G1 Blaze.
So, while your facts may be correct, HTC is catching up, RIM is still on top, and finally, the biggest issue (the one you discussed) was created because Apple made certain decisions. Thus, your statement is kinda irrelevant as it comes up as "but if Apple only... then things would be different!!!" I know that's not what you said, but re-read it. They created this situation by their choices, so that's what your statement amounts to, even if that wasnt your intent.
>>>Back in the 80's AOL did not have Internet... your recollection is a decade off.
No it isn't. I never said my AOL/Quantum Link subscription provided internet. You assumed it. What they provided was the 80s equivalent - national forums, gaming, encyclopedias, and also a Usenet posting area. .
Wrong, I assumed nothing:
Holy crap. I only spent $15 a month for AOL/Quantum Link back in the 80s. What ISP were you paying off? To date I've never paid more than $19 a month for internet, and hope I never need to in the future.
Meaning you were intentionally bringing up something that did not apply in the hopes that people would equate your (incorrect*) price with ISPs, or you confused the two.
*Incorrect price as in AOL did not have a flat rate service at that time.
>>>I am sure you can donate your $4K to some charity if you really think you shouldnt have received any assistance.
Sure. Right after I stop getting taxed between $20,000 and 25,000 a year. As long as I'm being outrageously overtaxed for the purpose of redistributing wealth, then I will take back whatever I can when it's offered. Just the same as I will take SS when it's offered. (For the record I support 0% for the first $100,000; at least for income tax. Other taxes can remain the same.)
Ummm... I'm not the one who said you should not have received assistance... you are.
As for "welfare for the rich" I think that's a good description. Back when I bought my 80mpg Honda Hybrid the state gave a $2000 rebate for sales tax, the US gave me $2000 for it being electric, and I was earning $90,000. I don't consider myself rich, but I'm not poor either. I should not have received any assistance.
I simply suggested that if you felt that strongly about it, that you should do something about it. Apparently you do not feel that strongly about it even though your statement indicated and/or implied otherwise.
It isn't uncommon around major cities - and the poster above apparently works in the NYC metro area. However, most people would just move - especially if they work at CompUSA of all places (I have to assume it was at a warehouse or office building or something - I'd never commute 65 miles to a retail store unless I literally owned it).
Most people in a typical suburban area dive 5-10 miles to work. Generally too far to bike, but something that only takes 20-30min. Once you get over the 30 minute mark you cross a threshold. The one hour mark is a very big threshold and most people will find some reason to move at that point.
I was a tech manager, and rent in the metro area is twice what it is where I was... or inotherwords, unaffordable. When I got my own tech shop, I wasnt given a choice as to which one. That means my options (besides getting another job) was to move into the metro area proper, and get a second job to pay the extra I would need for rent, or move to another suburb off the island, where the prices would be roughly similar and the travel distance would be roughly the same. Inotherwords, staying where I was, was the best bet. At 30mpg, it was costing me $22/day (includes bridge tolls) - or about $530 a month... which was cheaper than the extra $800-$1500/month moving into the metro area would cost me.
I was just being submitted to be moved up to Sales Manager, which would have doubled my pay, even before bonuses I would have been eligible for, and was considering moving closer then. Even started looking at places, considering the promotion was guaranteed - but of course, then the word came down that we were closing, and that ended that. Glad I didnt move, as I would have ended up losing my new (and more expensive) place once my severance pay ran out (or not too long afterwards) even with a second job.
As for:
Most people in a typical suburban area dive 5-10 miles to work.
Sadly, as those who live on Long Island (or upstate NY) know, jobs are few and far between here, which is why about half a million people commute from Suffolk County via the LIE, Northern State and Southern State Pkwys to NYC. Add about 250,000 LIRR commuters. Then of course, there's the people travelling in from NJ, CT and upstate NY. All in all, it's a few million people in the NY Metro area that stuck in my former scenario.
I'm pretty sure it's not the only area like that. Though Baltimore has a tiny population (in comparison to NYC or even Nassau or Suffolk County suburbs), there isnt that much to do (work wise) once out of the city, through the small suburban area, and quickly into rural area - meaning once again a bunch of people (compared to overall population of the area) that are forced to commute to the city to work.
DC used to be as bad, but is expanding into VA (and previously expanded into MD and towards Baltimore) a lot quicker than the areas north, west and east of Baltimore.
Areas of Texas (outside Arlington/Irving for instance) are similar as well. Though there is a large cluster of small cities and semi-suburban areas, heading out of them quickly ends one in suburban or semi-rural areas where jobs are much more scarce, causing people to once again have the need to commute longer distances.
Many other areas are not like this, but the point is, there are millions of people stuck in this scenario when one considers just a few metro areas.
Am I the only person who thinks it's insane to live 65 miles away from where you work? Even with good roads between the two, you're looking at spending at least two hours a day in the car, adding 25% to the length of your working day, unpaid (in fact, that you get to pay for). Is this really normal in the USA? If so, it's not surprising that you consume more resources per person than any other country by a large margin.
No, you probably arent the only one who feels that way.... but, look up how many people commute from Suffolk County to NYC for work (heck or even Connecticut). Or how many people commute 65 miles from Jersey to NY or CT for work? It's pretty crazy (and in the millions).
Oh, just so you understand, I am only 45 miles from the city... but I am not a bird sadly, and have to drive these not-so-direct paths that the roads follow. ;-)
Thanks! Now, I'm just waiting for the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries or more supercaps being used.
From the FS:
In case you are missing the point, the middle class represents the vast majority of those who buy cars, and all electric vehicles do not - and will not- meet their needs. So unless you are going to force them to buy, there is no large scale market to drive down costs.
Yes, but why? Because GM and gang cannot make an EV suitable for them. PERIOD. If I buy an EV that gets 50 miles on a charge, and still worked at CompUSA, I would be walking 15 miles a day, hoping I ran out of charge someplace near a plug - otherwise I'd be walking 15 miles to work, and 65 miles home. Even if the EV got 100, it wont get me there and back, and there's nowhere I can charge my car at work.
So... what if the cars that were being promoted to these people who were polled were the Tesla Model S or (pending) BlueStar with a 300 mile range? Then, suddenly, there's no problems driving to and from work, and doing the 45 minute charge routine each night or every other night.
With all the publicity GM and others have gotten for their half assed EV attempts, Tesla (and the... what 2? other EV manufacturers who make something suitable for suburban to city commuting) have gotten virtually none, have gotten loans (and/or small subsidies) instead of big subsidies, have not gotten media coverage, etc.