Where did I say anywhere in my post that people without a college degree could not solve problems? Some people like a bit of extra education, which is what college/university is supposed to provide. It's supposed to supplement logic and reasoning skills (maybe I should have added supplement).
Relax, I'm not saying you suck. I'm not prejudice against non-college grads. I'm currently finishing up a bachelors degree, and I'm considering working on masters degree. The focus at my university is much more engineering oriented, which is why I said it might be useful to have some CS background in theory as well as a solid engineering foundation.
And the burger joint I work at is an on-campus development team working on speech complications that can occur due to strokes.
I reiterate, I don't think you suck. I don't think you would care what I think of you anyhow. I just want people to not think of computer scientists as just code monkeys, and start thinking of them as scientists and/or developers and/or code monkeys.
~ Krientle
You don't go to college for Computer Science to learn programming, development, or tech support. You go to college for Computer Science to A) get a job in India, B) learn how to think and reason, and apply math and computer science to solve real world problems.
I wish people would distinguish between computer scientists and programmers, granted most CS majors will become programmers, there is a distinction, the primary distinction being the advanced math and science training. A lot of real-world problems involve hefty math (Calculus and beyond), if you don't know it, it's hard to write software that uses it (think Mathematica, Maple, Power Grid Control, etc.).
If you want to write simple business apps, I'm sure there are PLENTY of jobs for you. But if you want to do interesting development and computer science work, well, you're probably going to be flipping burgers and doing it on your own time, at least with the way things seem to be going (at least in the US).
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Where did I say anywhere in my post that people without a college degree could not solve problems? Some people like a bit of extra education, which is what college/university is supposed to provide. It's supposed to supplement logic and reasoning skills (maybe I should have added supplement). Relax, I'm not saying you suck. I'm not prejudice against non-college grads. I'm currently finishing up a bachelors degree, and I'm considering working on masters degree. The focus at my university is much more engineering oriented, which is why I said it might be useful to have some CS background in theory as well as a solid engineering foundation. And the burger joint I work at is an on-campus development team working on speech complications that can occur due to strokes. I reiterate, I don't think you suck. I don't think you would care what I think of you anyhow. I just want people to not think of computer scientists as just code monkeys, and start thinking of them as scientists and/or developers and/or code monkeys. ~ Krientle
You don't go to college for Computer Science to learn programming, development, or tech support. You go to college for Computer Science to A) get a job in India, B) learn how to think and reason, and apply math and computer science to solve real world problems.
I wish people would distinguish between computer scientists and programmers, granted most CS majors will become programmers, there is a distinction, the primary distinction being the advanced math and science training. A lot of real-world problems involve hefty math (Calculus and beyond), if you don't know it, it's hard to write software that uses it (think Mathematica, Maple, Power Grid Control, etc.).
If you want to write simple business apps, I'm sure there are PLENTY of jobs for you. But if you want to do interesting development and computer science work, well, you're probably going to be flipping burgers and doing it on your own time, at least with the way things seem to be going (at least in the US).
~ Krientle