we should really work on that. theres not enough diversity when it comes to disabled workers out there doing laborious jobs. Diversity above common sense right?
Look, ganjadude, it's FINE that you want to toast your brain. Rock on, dude. Just don't do it at a time or place where your impaired state is likely to affect me in any way whatsoever
This times 100 is what I am saying. What one does in their off time is not of any concern to others
I kept returning to the UN pledge to build a drug-free world. There was one fact, above all others, that I kept placing next to it in my mind. It is a fact that seems at first glance both obvious and instinctively wrong. Only 10 percent of drug users have a problem with their substance. Some 90 percent of people who use a drug—the overwhelming majority—are not harmed by it. This figure comes not from a pro-legalization group, but from the United Nations Office on Drug Control, the global coordinator of the drug war. Even William Bennett, the most aggressive drug czar in U.S. history, admits: “Non-addicted users still comprise the vast bulk of our drug-involved population.”
If you take drugs it'll likely affect your work and health costs (still somewhat paid for by the company)
Citation? because an article I was reading yesterday about a 25 year study done shows only 10% of drug users have a problem, and that the majority of drug users use responsibly. I would replace the word likely, with the word potentially
so if an employer wanted me to give up my first born to work for them, in your eyes that would be perfectly fine? because as you say, i can work somewhere else?
forcing someone to prove their innocence by taking a drug test without any reason to assume so (pre employment and random testing) I have no issue with say a truck driver getting in an accident and being administered a test however
i consider myself a libertarian, but at the same point i believe that what one does on their own time is of no concern to an employer. as such, one should be judged on the merits of their work, not their recreation
im not sure you read my entire comment. I am wondering at what level they will push it. what vaxes will they mandate? will they mandate flue shots every year? I dont, and no one i know except my cousins who are 10 and under are getting flu shots.
what you are not taking into consideration is that if there are more unvaxed people, the diseases will move around more, and mutate more. As such rendering the vaxed people susceptible to the new strains
so where do we draw the line? should we allow an employer to have access to our bank records? to ensure we arent funding terrorists? Should we give them our passwords to all our accounts online? to ensure we are not bad mouthing the company?
drug tests should not even exist let alone be mandatory. what happened to innocent until proven guilty? I should not have to prove my innocence, you should have to prove my guilt
I specifically said in this thread that in your own time, not on the job, and not prior to going to the job
I have no problem with alcoholics, but i wouldnt want them working while drunk.
so sorry, I didnt know you, the singular coward is equal to "a large portion". Idiot
i agree with you, sadly not everyone does
we should really work on that. theres not enough diversity when it comes to disabled workers out there doing laborious jobs. Diversity above common sense right?
not if he is not using on company time or in the few hours before the start of his or her shift.
its off work time, the job pays for it, but not you for your time
to you perhaps, not to me any a large portion of the people here
well, what is "reasonable"?? the flu generally wont kill you, as such IMO should not be mandated.
shingles (if you're over 60)
I got that when i was 16, its not just an old mans disease
no one is important, we spend a few years on this rock, then we die. its the same for all of us.
Look, ganjadude, it's FINE that you want to toast your brain. Rock on, dude. Just don't do it at a time or place where your impaired state is likely to affect me in any way whatsoever
This times 100 is what I am saying. What one does in their off time is not of any concern to others
i can tell you i dont know a drug user who would give away his drugs to be funny. drug users dont like to share lol
my father is, i know how it works. I dont agree with that. i do agree with administering a test after an accident however
I kept returning to the UN pledge to build a drug-free world. There was one fact, above all others, that I kept placing next to it in my mind. It is a fact that seems at first glance both obvious and instinctively wrong. Only 10 percent of drug users have a problem with their substance. Some 90 percent of people who use a drug—the overwhelming majority—are not harmed by it. This figure comes not from a pro-legalization group, but from the United Nations Office on Drug Control, the global coordinator of the drug war. Even William Bennett, the most aggressive drug czar in U.S. history, admits: “Non-addicted users still comprise the vast bulk of our drug-involved population.”
link - http://boingboing.net/2015/01/...
i still never agreed to blind bikers definition of some social contract. signature or verbal
If you take drugs it'll likely affect your work and health costs (still somewhat paid for by the company)
Citation? because an article I was reading yesterday about a 25 year study done shows only 10% of drug users have a problem, and that the majority of drug users use responsibly. I would replace the word likely, with the word potentially
I did, until some clowns decided to start blowing up people in the name of some pedo. rolled back to the CIA now ;)
so if an employer wanted me to give up my first born to work for them, in your eyes that would be perfectly fine? because as you say, i can work somewhere else?
forcing someone to prove their innocence by taking a drug test without any reason to assume so (pre employment and random testing) I have no issue with say a truck driver getting in an accident and being administered a test however
i consider myself a libertarian, but at the same point i believe that what one does on their own time is of no concern to an employer. as such, one should be judged on the merits of their work, not their recreation
im not sure you read my entire comment. I am wondering at what level they will push it. what vaxes will they mandate? will they mandate flue shots every year? I dont, and no one i know except my cousins who are 10 and under are getting flu shots.
what you are not taking into consideration is that if there are more unvaxed people, the diseases will move around more, and mutate more. As such rendering the vaxed people susceptible to the new strains
so where do we draw the line? should we allow an employer to have access to our bank records? to ensure we arent funding terrorists? Should we give them our passwords to all our accounts online? to ensure we are not bad mouthing the company?
drug tests should not even exist let alone be mandatory. what happened to innocent until proven guilty? I should not have to prove my innocence, you should have to prove my guilt
i keep hearing about this social contract, I never seen it, i never signed it. I had no choice in my being.