There is the funding issues and then there are the presidential issues. Every 4 or 8 years the current 10 year plan seems to get scrapped, and the new president says he wants to do something else
Clearly you have never been to israel if you believe that. Perhaps you should talk to some people who have been and say that while they spend hours in lines getting searched left and right in america, they walk in and are on a plain in 30 minutes in israel. But no, its an intrusive pain in the ass... I do agree with you on the last part though, get rid of the TSA and get rid of the government at airports and allow the airlines to run security as they see fit, and allow passangers to decide if they want the extra protection of a finger in the ass, or they want to "risk it" and just walk on up and get in a plane. Let the people decide what they want with their wallet
to be fair, I used words that would elicit a response based on ones inside notions. Your response (and I mean no offense whatsoever) is a clear case of biases out there today that have been hammered into our skulls by the media and politicians. When we talk about profiling in america, it ALWAYS jumps to race (kind of like everything in america it seems) where as I specifically did not use race only appearances because in the words of stephen colbert, I dont see color.
what this does is allow the reader of my post, in this case you form a conclusion based on your experiences that say when talking about profiling, it is about race. I bring up israel because they do profile, and they admit it and are proud of it, but they dont racial profile
I dont know, most here seem to be for the constitution and individual liberties, I get the tax aspect is the one harped on the most however i dont fully agree that most libertarians here are really conservatives hiding behind the libertarian name.
where did i say RACIAL... I simply said PROFILING. and I did NOT bring race into the statement period. YOU are the one who jumped to the conclusion I was talking about racial profiling, which I was not. your attitude is the reason we cant profile correctly.
car insurance does not cover regularly scheduled maintenance though, neither should health insurance. As such my point is perfectly valid. I concede that your analogy might make more sense but youe end result is the same. We dont use insurance to cover a cars checkup, we shouldnt use one to cover a personal checkup
no but profiling does work. Look at the airport in israel, they do backround checks before you get to the airport, they do indeed profile, and yet getting on and off a plane there is night and day as opposed to america. Profiling does indeed work, is it perfect? of course not but if I see 2 men one in a business suit and another with pants sagging below his ass a ball cap turned to the side and tattoos on his face, and im told one of these 2 people is going to rob the store, plain and simple I am going to talk to the man in the ballcap and baggy pants first
Except for the republicans did not obstuct the rollout in anyway shape or form, sure they wanted to stop it from becoming law by voting "no" and they are trying to get it repealed, but they simply stayed out of the way when it comes to the actual rollout, they all voted no, and the democrats own this mess as they are in charge "the buck stops here" I recall our president saying a time or 2
well I will not claim to have to pay 4X my old rate in actual dollars, however I do have to pay 2X more than I did before for a plan that is roughly 1/2 as good (higher deductable, higher copays less actual coverage)
if indirectly did however. You quoted an article stating that he wanted a paper to counter balence the left wing post. You call out this paper for being right wing and biased, while at the same time staying silent on the fact that this paper was made to combat the left leaning rags that are already out there. In a round about way you gave them a pass for leaning left while arguing that we cant trust these guys for leaning right
you do understand that the state exchange would not have had to have been set up if it were not for obamacare correct? sure they could have said no and went with the federal exchange but this is still the fault of obamacare
the republicans did not vote for this bill, this was totally done by the democrats, You cannot in good faith blame the republicans for something they did not have a hand in.
to put it another way would you be patting the republicans on the back if it did work? of course not! you would be saying the democrats did it in spite of the republicans.
zero republicans voted for this bill, you can talk all you want about how it was their bill XX years ago or whatever, it is not. It may be loosly based on some ideas that the republicans had, but the bill was written by the democrats, voted for by the democrats, and implemented by the democrats. Why you cannot admit that it is their fault I will never understand
Did you see the one chick from MSNBC, i think her name is melissa perry or something like that trying to say that using the word "obamacare" is the same as saying "nigger"? I mean really?? how much race baiting will we allow them to get away with??
1 - I highly doubt that it is one of the MOST extreme right wing rags, it may be more right wing than 95% of the rags out there because they all lean left
2 - 300 million bucks since 2010 and it still isnt working? thats even worse than only 44 people signed up as a headline if you ask me, most of us here could have a working site do what they need it to do for under a few million
the situation IS representative of whats going on with the rest of the country, a massive clusterfuck and wasted tax dollars. Think about it like this, we spent how much on the federal site so far? somewhere around 1/2 a billion? now add in the costs that individual states spent, and we are way over 1 billion dollars spent on websites. this is unacceptable by any measurement out there
I think you mean libertarian, this site has always had a libertarian slant, sure in 08 everyone had a boner for obama but other than that for the most part people here have been largly libertarian
IF insurance worked as every other kind of insurance that would be fine, what we have is not health insurance though. We use insurance to go in for a cold, we use them when we get the flu, we use them for EVERY aspect of health care. that is by definition not insurance. For a car analogy it would be like putting in a claim every time we got an oil change or pumped gas even. IF we only had insurance to cover catastrophic injuries/terminal illness, and instead took care of ourselves for a common cold the system would be working much much better
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There is the funding issues and then there are the presidential issues. Every 4 or 8 years the current 10 year plan seems to get scrapped, and the new president says he wants to do something else
Clearly you have never been to israel if you believe that. Perhaps you should talk to some people who have been and say that while they spend hours in lines getting searched left and right in america, they walk in and are on a plain in 30 minutes in israel. But no, its an intrusive pain in the ass...
I do agree with you on the last part though, get rid of the TSA and get rid of the government at airports and allow the airlines to run security as they see fit, and allow passangers to decide if they want the extra protection of a finger in the ass, or they want to "risk it" and just walk on up and get in a plane. Let the people decide what they want with their wallet
to be fair, I used words that would elicit a response based on ones inside notions. Your response (and I mean no offense whatsoever) is a clear case of biases out there today that have been hammered into our skulls by the media and politicians. When we talk about profiling in america, it ALWAYS jumps to race (kind of like everything in america it seems) where as I specifically did not use race only appearances because in the words of stephen colbert, I dont see color.
what this does is allow the reader of my post, in this case you form a conclusion based on your experiences that say when talking about profiling, it is about race. I bring up israel because they do profile, and they admit it and are proud of it, but they dont racial profile
I dont know, most here seem to be for the constitution and individual liberties, I get the tax aspect is the one harped on the most however i dont fully agree that most libertarians here are really conservatives hiding behind the libertarian name.
where did i say RACIAL... I simply said PROFILING. and I did NOT bring race into the statement period. YOU are the one who jumped to the conclusion I was talking about racial profiling, which I was not. your attitude is the reason we cant profile correctly.
car insurance does not cover regularly scheduled maintenance though, neither should health insurance. As such my point is perfectly valid. I concede that your analogy might make more sense but youe end result is the same. We dont use insurance to cover a cars checkup, we shouldnt use one to cover a personal checkup
well saidbut I like to take his words a step further
we cant work without the collection of metadate
My response is ok, then we dont need the NSA
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
how is this not plain language? only to lawyer types is this NOT plain language.
no but profiling does work. Look at the airport in israel, they do backround checks before you get to the airport, they do indeed profile, and yet getting on and off a plane there is night and day as opposed to america. Profiling does indeed work, is it perfect? of course not but if I see 2 men one in a business suit and another with pants sagging below his ass a ball cap turned to the side and tattoos on his face, and im told one of these 2 people is going to rob the store, plain and simple I am going to talk to the man in the ballcap and baggy pants first
Except for the republicans did not obstuct the rollout in anyway shape or form, sure they wanted to stop it from becoming law by voting "no" and they are trying to get it repealed, but they simply stayed out of the way when it comes to the actual rollout, they all voted no, and the democrats own this mess as they are in charge "the buck stops here" I recall our president saying a time or 2
well I will not claim to have to pay 4X my old rate in actual dollars, however I do have to pay 2X more than I did before for a plan that is roughly 1/2 as good (higher deductable, higher copays less actual coverage)
if indirectly did however. You quoted an article stating that he wanted a paper to counter balence the left wing post. You call out this paper for being right wing and biased, while at the same time staying silent on the fact that this paper was made to combat the left leaning rags that are already out there. In a round about way you gave them a pass for leaning left while arguing that we cant trust these guys for leaning right
you do understand that the state exchange would not have had to have been set up if it were not for obamacare correct? sure they could have said no and went with the federal exchange but this is still the fault of obamacare
the republicans did not vote for this bill, this was totally done by the democrats, You cannot in good faith blame the republicans for something they did not have a hand in.
to put it another way would you be patting the republicans on the back if it did work? of course not! you would be saying the democrats did it in spite of the republicans.
in other words, take of the blinders AC
if they paid 300 mil for a website that dont work, i dont want to know what they will spend on the stuff that *does* work
zero republicans voted for this bill, you can talk all you want about how it was their bill XX years ago or whatever, it is not. It may be loosly based on some ideas that the republicans had, but the bill was written by the democrats, voted for by the democrats, and implemented by the democrats. Why you cannot admit that it is their fault I will never understand
I dont know, perhaps because they knew it was a bad plan? current republicans in general were not in the house or senate 30 years ago
Did you see the one chick from MSNBC, i think her name is melissa perry or something like that trying to say that using the word "obamacare" is the same as saying "nigger"? I mean really?? how much race baiting will we allow them to get away with??
yes, blame the states. If the feds didnt start this mess to begin with, the states would not have had to make a stand.
Also the best functioning one is from a red state, Rand Pauls state of kentucky.
1 - I highly doubt that it is one of the MOST extreme right wing rags, it may be more right wing than 95% of the rags out there because they all lean left
2 - 300 million bucks since 2010 and it still isnt working? thats even worse than only 44 people signed up as a headline if you ask me, most of us here could have a working site do what they need it to do for under a few million
the situation IS representative of whats going on with the rest of the country, a massive clusterfuck and wasted tax dollars. Think about it like this, we spent how much on the federal site so far? somewhere around 1/2 a billion? now add in the costs that individual states spent, and we are way over 1 billion dollars spent on websites. this is unacceptable by any measurement out there
I think you mean libertarian, this site has always had a libertarian slant, sure in 08 everyone had a boner for obama but other than that for the most part people here have been largly libertarian
IF insurance worked as every other kind of insurance that would be fine, what we have is not health insurance though. We use insurance to go in for a cold, we use them when we get the flu, we use them for EVERY aspect of health care. that is by definition not insurance. For a car analogy it would be like putting in a claim every time we got an oil change or pumped gas even. IF we only had insurance to cover catastrophic injuries/terminal illness, and instead took care of ourselves for a common cold the system would be working much much better
phone tapping americans and the rest of the world of course!
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