thats not in all what i said in the slightest. and i hope those people who did so get taken care of. but its not a national epidemic which some people are trying to make it out to be
same with air disasters, yes its tragic for those on the planes, however in the scheme of things not many people die in plane accidents.
ok, thats fine. lets both try and get back on the topic at hand and my original point of the fact that the number of attacks are a rounding error in the big scheme of things.
Im going to use a blog that shows seattle is the 3rd most "hate crime" city in america (somewhat the point you are making) while at the same time showing its a rounding error.
For every 100,000 Seattle residents, there were three hate crimes based on sexual orientation that year, the most recent data available. Among cities with at least 200,000 residents, only Washington, D.C., and Memphis, Tenn., have higher rates of anti-LGBT hate crimes.
so 3 for every 100K people in a city you said has 650K people which makes the numbers exactly what i said 19.66 attacks
19.66 attacks in a year in your city. that is a really REALLY small number.
i think you are looking at what i write to you as im the enemy and therefore what I say is bull.
You should stop and think about what you're saying. You created a straw man caricature of my views, tore it down, then told me you know that the straw man is not representative of my views.
i did no such thing, you accused me of living in fear and other junk and i simply was making an argument based on my experiences
Well at least your made up bullshit is an anecdote this time.
I made up nothing. I stand by my statement. and the fact that you are as defensive as you are when i said nothing remotely offensive, and at the same time continue to talk down to me and anyone else who disagrees with you in the slightest, it adds to my data points that those who scream for tolerance are equally intolerant of others.
I sincerely hope the best for you and your area as 1 attack on another , regardless of the reasoning is a bad thing
No idea what this means. Have another toke duder.
see, this is the problem. I am sitting here not insulting you, trying to understand your side while offering my side of things. yet your side seems unable to do so without resorting to smugness. I guess its a west coast thing. What I said was in simple terms, "dont hurt people for...reasons" I dont care black white gay straight, you shouldnt be attacking someone for no reason. As for the baker, you didnt hear about the baker being forced to pay over 100 grand to a lesbian couple because they refused to bake them a custom cake???? google is your friend, and for someone who is caught up on LGBTQDFHSDTHUA++ you should be well aware of that case
living an hour from NYC i say BS,you can find a decent home for under a grand a month in rockland orange and ulster county if you want to own you can buy a nice single family on an acre or 4 for under 200 grand in orange county NY
there is no fear on my side, but we do see the idea of diversity differently. I dont believe there is a need for it. I enjoy it, i like learning about other cultures and being a part of them. However I disagree that it is something that should be forced onto people (not saying that you feel that way just explaining myself)
I see alot of people who as you said distort their motives, perhaps its a new york thing but the people who want the most diversity in NY, also seem to be the least tolerant people I personally know. i understand my anecdote does not mean that all people who are pro diversity are evil intolerant people, just that is what it seems like here in NY these days.
i understand now, i dont have any specific links to go by, however I would argue that the woman who was sued for not baking a cake would be an example of someone being unjustly charged with a hate crime in one instance
I see your point and im sorry if thats how the way you see things is making you feel. however numbers dont lie, and only 20 examples in a city is a rounding error as I said, and not a "thing" it would be like if everyone in NYC lived their lives in fear of another airplane attack because it happened back in 2001, yeah it could happen but the odds are very slim
I sincerely hope the best for you and your area as 1 attack on another , regardless of the reasoning is a bad thing
im not sure ive ever seen that as what diversity was all about
you dont need to be diverse to not hate others, while one can want diversity SOOO bad, that one turns into one of the hateful people that you are speaking of
sorry, i wrote non 2 times. im saying if you are at a bar and you get in a fight with someone, you dont know they are gay until after the fight. yet sometimes you will still get charged with a hate crime.
somewhere else in this threat it was said that there were 20 cases in 2014. Id hardly call that a "thing"
i dont argue that. but sometimes when a non gay person attacks a non gay person, its not because he is gay, yet its still listed as a hate crime. so we dont know the real numbers but i digress. look at the actual numbers not just the "doubled" part and you will see its still a rounding error. its not a "thing"
seriously. traffic is logical to complain about. even the rising cost of housing.
but literally everything else he complains about in here is a non issue. we shouldnt care one way or another who our neighbors are, if that means less diversity so what? all the nordic countries that the leftists love have little to no diversity so why should that matter?
and why the need to bring up "white males" Its as if the submitter wanted a flamefest
This kind of trolling does not belong here, and i dont usually complain about what should and shouldnt be on the front page
Slashdot Mirror
they want to be able to continue to put their spin and political slant on things before people have a chance to make up their own minds
thats not in all what i said in the slightest. and i hope those people who did so get taken care of. but its not a national epidemic which some people are trying to make it out to be
same with air disasters, yes its tragic for those on the planes, however in the scheme of things not many people die in plane accidents.
but aliens!
Im going to use a blog that shows seattle is the 3rd most "hate crime" city in america (somewhat the point you are making) while at the same time showing its a rounding error.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/...
For every 100,000 Seattle residents, there were three hate crimes based on sexual orientation that year, the most recent data available. Among cities with at least 200,000 residents, only Washington, D.C., and Memphis, Tenn., have higher rates of anti-LGBT hate crimes.
so 3 for every 100K people in a city you said has 650K people which makes the numbers exactly what i said 19.66 attacks
19.66 attacks in a year in your city. that is a really REALLY small number.
thank you, I was having trouble finding the numbers to post in a nice simple view like the one you provided.
You should stop and think about what you're saying. You created a straw man caricature of my views, tore it down, then told me you know that the straw man is not representative of my views.
i did no such thing, you accused me of living in fear and other junk and i simply was making an argument based on my experiences
Well at least your made up bullshit is an anecdote this time.
I made up nothing. I stand by my statement. and the fact that you are as defensive as you are when i said nothing remotely offensive, and at the same time continue to talk down to me and anyone else who disagrees with you in the slightest, it adds to my data points that those who scream for tolerance are equally intolerant of others.
Have a nice day
I sincerely hope the best for you and your area as 1 attack on another , regardless of the reasoning is a bad thing
No idea what this means. Have another toke duder.
see, this is the problem. I am sitting here not insulting you, trying to understand your side while offering my side of things. yet your side seems unable to do so without resorting to smugness. I guess its a west coast thing. What I said was in simple terms, "dont hurt people for...reasons" I dont care black white gay straight, you shouldnt be attacking someone for no reason. As for the baker, you didnt hear about the baker being forced to pay over 100 grand to a lesbian couple because they refused to bake them a custom cake???? google is your friend, and for someone who is caught up on LGBTQDFHSDTHUA++ you should be well aware of that case
living an hour from NYC i say BS,you can find a decent home for under a grand a month in rockland orange and ulster county if you want to own you can buy a nice single family on an acre or 4 for under 200 grand in orange county NY
there is no fear on my side, but we do see the idea of diversity differently. I dont believe there is a need for it. I enjoy it, i like learning about other cultures and being a part of them. However I disagree that it is something that should be forced onto people (not saying that you feel that way just explaining myself)
I see alot of people who as you said distort their motives, perhaps its a new york thing but the people who want the most diversity in NY, also seem to be the least tolerant people I personally know. i understand my anecdote does not mean that all people who are pro diversity are evil intolerant people, just that is what it seems like here in NY these days.
i understand now, i dont have any specific links to go by, however I would argue that the woman who was sued for not baking a cake would be an example of someone being unjustly charged with a hate crime in one instance
I see your point and im sorry if thats how the way you see things is making you feel. however numbers dont lie, and only 20 examples in a city is a rounding error as I said, and not a "thing" it would be like if everyone in NYC lived their lives in fear of another airplane attack because it happened back in 2001, yeah it could happen but the odds are very slim
I sincerely hope the best for you and your area as 1 attack on another , regardless of the reasoning is a bad thing
so... dont move to somewhere you cant afford? is that really that hard for people to figure out???
you know people might take you a little more serious if you didnt go ad hominem. you can make your point without belittling others
but thats the leftist way it seems, insult insult claim racism or sexism, and insult. thats ALL i seee from you guys these days
says archie bunker.
not sure if intentionally funny or accidentally
im not sure ive ever seen that as what diversity was all about
you dont need to be diverse to not hate others, while one can want diversity SOOO bad, that one turns into one of the hateful people that you are speaking of
no no no, thats gingers.
gingers have no souls
sorry, i wrote non 2 times. im saying if you are at a bar and you get in a fight with someone, you dont know they are gay until after the fight. yet sometimes you will still get charged with a hate crime.
somewhere else in this threat it was said that there were 20 cases in 2014. Id hardly call that a "thing"
i dont argue that. but sometimes when a non gay person attacks a non gay person, its not because he is gay, yet its still listed as a hate crime. so we dont know the real numbers but i digress. look at the actual numbers not just the "doubled" part and you will see its still a rounding error. its not a "thing"
numbers confuse them its all about feelings now
oh I see, its HIS fault the others arent doing their jobs
i know you joke, however black on black crime is bigger than white on black crime
perhaps the same holds true
seriously. traffic is logical to complain about. even the rising cost of housing.
but literally everything else he complains about in here is a non issue. we shouldnt care one way or another who our neighbors are, if that means less diversity so what? all the nordic countries that the leftists love have little to no diversity so why should that matter?
and why the need to bring up "white males" Its as if the submitter wanted a flamefest
This kind of trolling does not belong here, and i dont usually complain about what should and shouldnt be on the front page
why wouldnt this be covered by insurance??? I know spaceX has some coverage does NASA not???
im all for space travel, heck i wanted to be an astronaut as a kid (who didnt?) i even went to space camp
but with whats going on in the EU wouldnt it make more sense to fix things at home????
years ago i did, now i have a service i use for a reasonable fee to protect me and the establishments i play.
its not because she was let go, but the way it was done