Well, if you look at 3D audio, Creative LTD is working together with Loki software to attempt to set a linux 3D/positional audio standard for the hardware manufacturers. Meanwhile, Aureal says it is up to Creative to get things like EAX to work under Linux. So, I guess they are working towards 1 standard.. If Creative wouldn't have crasped the OSS concept, they would have never switched to GPL. This change didn't came over one night ice, I dunno about other compagnies, but I think the restance against opening up propriety stuff, can only be broken after they've already realized the OSS concept and it's advantages... And if they realize Linux is going to be mainstream business? Well I guess they do read PC magazines or at least news papers..
I just followed the links on their page, what let me to the gif-to-png page There you can find a python script to convert your web to png, it is said to be around for 4 years already.. I haven't tested it yet on my page, it's under construction right now.. One thing left.. animated gif.. the only way out JAVA script? And I think converting to png is just making a stand, after all, everyone knows Linux users are rebelious...
:-(, tried it first with 2.2.13 standard kernel and it validates (but my hd will run in PIO mode and very slow..) Tried with the 2.2.12 and the Hedrick ata66 patch, results in the error: 'GETASF failed' 'invalidating: Invalid argument' 'can not get AGID'... Anyone an idea or kernel patch for 2.2.12 or 13?
I don't agree on this matter, I tried several software decoders and I was very impressed about the Cinematics 99 engine. I was able to get a very crisp and clear and vibrant video play with it on my old Intel 740 and OC-ed Celeron 450(they use some kind of techniek to put a quadrupple buffer into your video memory), not really highend hardware these days and I think under Linux it could even be done better... eg. WinDVD says, they are only a small team of young coders, so that's the only ingredient you'll need...
I fully agree on this matter! Emailing the manufacturer, especially their software design department, works! Also putting up a site will draw the attention of the software developers and the people responsable.
Check some of my correspondence: Europe developer support and US developer support The amount of people that do this, is also important and remember, look at things from their perspective when emailing. Things like this, will eventual frustrate them and make 'm think... Manuël Beunder, maintainer of The SB Live! Linux page
ps, I also forgot to mention that releasing a GPL-ed source, means they support GPL, making it also possible for ALSA to start working again on the drivers...
As you might or might now know, I'm running a SB Live! under Linux page, I just have some things I like to say.. A lot of ppl already know, Creative went a long, long way from releasing a binary only kernel specific driver, developing at a slow speed with loads of bugs, towards finally even having a FAQ and supporting CVS under GPL and supporting people who wants to make their own driver under Linux. I you look at Creative, at first being not willing to provide 4front with the nessary information, to continue development and also not seeming to understand the need of having the source available or chopping up the driver into a kernel independant part with source and a binary part for the DSP (just check my page on the details..) that's a big difference... And Creative also didn't spend much resources on Linux, because that's not where to money comes from (We don't buy any Live Ware 3 or whatever upgrades) But it now seems like Creative fully changed course and is also spending more resources on this thing (also with hiring Jon Taylor, a very good move) they even are working on finding a way to support 3D audio or EAX, since Aureal thinks, that's up to Creative, this is a very important step... I think this move looks very good, also since Aureal is also working on Linux support, it really shows that times are changing for Linux and that even heavy commercial compagnies like Creative are realizing this.. This is sure much more than I ever hoped for and to be honest, after seeing a message that someone was going to buy a SB Live! because he saw that there was at least a page that supported it, was almost a reason for me to dismantle it. Because I only started this page out of the frustration, not being given any support from Creative (like a FAQ or proper install instructions)..
Manuel Beunder (also going under MBr)
http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme The SB Live! Linux page
Here's another example of a young guy who has founded an ICT compagny. The compagny is called Chello and it offers fast broadband internet services for home use.. The founder is only 14 year old... http://www.chello.nl (sorry, it's Dutch) ps. btw call me stupid, but what is the difference between a CEO (ChiefExacutiveOfficer?), CTO, COO, Cwhatever, where these American sites always talk about?
Mariage is the reality you're doomed for... Porn is wishfull thinking to escape that reality... Statistics show that the average American has sex for the 1st time after he/she reaches the age of 21, the average european at 18.. It is believed this is due to strict rules regarding sexual relationships.. (An 17 old girl is only a kid, a 18 year old girl is a hot young woman... *right*) Like always, your American laws are an insult to the people.. It's just like the minimum age for discos.. by the time your are old enough (21 orso), you either don't have the time for it, or you're spending the weekends with your girlfriend... I'm from the *real* Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave: Holland, God bless America... Manuel Beunder
Who was the lucky guy to win the server the M$ site is running on? I didn't even knew their site was also part of the NT versus Linux contest.. For all you guys who believed this was real, common, just read the comments on Slashdot, not even Microsoft employees are be *that* stupid.
ROTFLMAO 'Been an NT workstation user for years, I've been wondering ever since, why my machine with 192 ram performs better when I enable a large swap file... Finally I know:-D Manuel
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the correct Microsoft approved pronounciation of bugs is 'features' and bugfixes 'enhanchements' or 'service' packs... Okay now we can add another synonym, 'issues' Well, I thought IE5, often installed on NT, has quite some nice features too.. 'talking about security..
For years, since using Windows NT, I've been waiting for ide busmastering support for NT... Time has gone by and I also had many mainboards with Intel chipsets (call me stupid). Still, no sign of real busmastering support... Sure, they claim there is some support since service pack 2 (using the dmacheck util), but it's a hoax. Intel won't support it's chipsets under NT and the only alternative is a Intel BM driver provided by Heylard Packard, but with no support at all.. UDMA/33 or UDMA/66 (ata66) support totally lacks under NT also and the HP/Intel drivers won't support ata-pi devices and especially thing like an Iomega zipdrive... Every time I try to copy some files from one ide device to another, the cpu load turns 100% (Celeron 450, 192mb ram. 440bx mobo), this has been like this for years, no matter how fast my processor gets. Also using HPs drivers has always gotten me a lot of BSODs. NT SMP support is great -sure-, maybe just what I need to compensate this devicianty of NT. (sorry for my English) In time, I've tried it with various hd's and a lot of ata-pi cdroms, it just doesn't work. Face it, if you want to run NT stable and fast, you just gotto have high-end SCSI devices who cost a fortune. And what about the long awaited fat32 support, so I don't have to use fat16 with 16kb clusters for my Windows 9x toy os? (Win9x?, be honest, everyone likes to play a RTS game every now and than) NT, great FS support! -not- Under Linux I use UFS, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, EXT2 all just for free and not some crappy BSOD happy Winternals sollution. I don't see any ata66 support coming for NT in the (near) future either. Just face it, NT is simply not end user ready.. (At the moment, I'm using the experimental ata66 patch for my 6 ide devices under Linux 2.2.12 and it rocks!) p.s. Is it so difficult to make multiple swap files of 128mb M$? p.s.2 Here's another good example of M$ NT uptime and releability: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme/euronet-ntfailure.ht ml The commerial part of my ISP who tries to run a business and make money using NT... read the message that has been shown for days (weeks?)
Slashdot Mirror
Read the true story over here.. the only thing with holding Enigma from opening up their sources is.. CVS!- August/000147.html
http://l ivid.on.openprojects.net/pipermail/livid-dev/1999
CVS is preventing them from releasing their hardware specs and Linux sources!
Well, if you look at 3D audio, Creative LTD is working together with Loki software to attempt to set a linux 3D/positional audio standard for the hardware manufacturers.
Meanwhile, Aureal says it is up to Creative to get things like EAX to work under Linux.
So, I guess they are working towards 1 standard..
If Creative wouldn't have crasped the OSS concept, they would have never switched to GPL.
This change didn't came over one night ice,
I dunno about other compagnies, but I think the restance against opening up propriety stuff, can only be broken after they've already realized the OSS concept and it's advantages...
And if they realize Linux is going to be mainstream business? Well I guess they do read PC magazines or at least news papers..
I just followed the links on their page, what let me to the gif-to-png page
There you can find a python script to convert your web to png, it is said to be around for 4 years already..
I haven't tested it yet on my page, it's under construction right now.. One thing left.. animated gif.. the only way out JAVA script? And I think converting to png is just making a stand, after all, everyone knows Linux users are rebelious...
:-(, tried it first with 2.2.13 standard kernel and it validates (but my hd will run in PIO mode and very slow..) Tried with the 2.2.12 and the Hedrick ata66 patch, results in the error: 'GETASF failed' 'invalidating: Invalid argument' 'can not get AGID'... Anyone an idea or kernel patch for 2.2.12 or 13?
I don't agree on this matter, I tried several software decoders and I was very impressed about the Cinematics 99 engine. I was able to get a very crisp and clear and vibrant video play with it on my old Intel 740 and OC-ed Celeron 450(they use some kind of techniek to put a quadrupple buffer into your video memory), not really highend hardware these days and I think under Linux it could even be done better... eg. WinDVD says, they are only a small team of young coders, so that's the only ingredient you'll need...
I fully agree on this matter! Emailing the manufacturer, especially their software design department, works! Also putting up a site will draw the attention of the software developers and the people responsable.
Check some of my correspondence: Europe developer support and US developer support
The amount of people that do this, is also important and remember, look at things from their perspective when emailing. Things like this, will eventual frustrate them and make 'm think...
Manuël Beunder, maintainer of The SB Live! Linux page
ps, I also forgot to mention that releasing a GPL-ed source, means they support GPL, making it also possible for ALSA to start working again on the drivers...
Appearantly, the web masters who run the M$ IIS site, DO know how to mirror..
p.s. I take it the 5000 are anonymouse connections
and the web masters of the mirrors have an account?
D*mn, I ment preview not post... Ah well.. (might now=might not)
As you might or might now know, I'm running a
SB Live! under Linux page, I just have some things
I like to say..
A lot of ppl already know, Creative went a long, long way from releasing a binary only kernel specific driver, developing at a slow speed with loads of bugs, towards finally even having a FAQ and supporting CVS under GPL and supporting
people who wants to make their own driver under Linux. I you look at Creative, at first being not willing to provide 4front with the nessary information, to continue development and also not seeming to understand the need of having the source available or chopping up the driver into a kernel independant part with source
and a binary part for the DSP
(just check my page on the details..)
that's a big difference...
And Creative also didn't spend much resources
on Linux, because that's not where to money comes
from (We don't buy any Live Ware 3 or whatever upgrades)
But it now seems like Creative fully changed course and is also spending more resources on this thing (also with hiring Jon Taylor, a very good move) they even are working on finding a way
to support 3D audio or EAX, since Aureal thinks,
that's up to Creative, this is a very important step...
I think this move looks very good, also since
Aureal is also working on Linux support,
it really shows that times are changing for Linux
and that even heavy commercial compagnies like
Creative are realizing this..
This is sure much more than I ever hoped for
and to be honest, after seeing a message that
someone was going to buy a SB Live! because he
saw that there was at least a page that supported
it, was almost a reason for me to dismantle it.
Because I only started this page out of the frustration, not being given any support from Creative (like a FAQ or proper install instructions)..
Manuel Beunder (also going under MBr)
http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme
The SB Live! Linux page
Here's another example of a young guy who has founded an ICT compagny. The compagny is called Chello and it offers fast broadband internet services for home use.. The founder is only 14 year old... http://www.chello.nl (sorry, it's Dutch) ps. btw call me stupid, but what is the difference between a CEO (ChiefExacutiveOfficer?), CTO, COO, Cwhatever, where these American sites always talk about?
Mariage is the reality you're doomed for... Porn is wishfull thinking to escape that reality... Statistics show that the average American has sex for the 1st time after he/she reaches the age of 21, the average european at 18.. It is believed this is due to strict rules regarding sexual relationships.. (An 17 old girl is only a kid, a 18 year old girl is a hot young woman... *right*) Like always, your American laws are an insult to the people.. It's just like the minimum age for discos.. by the time your are old enough (21 orso), you either don't have the time for it, or you're spending the weekends with your girlfriend... I'm from the *real* Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave: Holland, God bless America... Manuel Beunder
Who was the lucky guy to win the server the M$ site is running on? I didn't even knew their site was also part of the NT versus Linux contest.. For all you guys who believed this was real, common, just read the comments on Slashdot, not even Microsoft employees are be *that* stupid.
ROTFLMAO 'Been an NT workstation user for years, I've been wondering ever since, why my machine with 192 ram performs better when I enable a large swap file... Finally I know :-D Manuel
Boeing: http://www.m-tech.ab.ca/linux-biz/boeing.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/990811-000001.html Dell: http://www.idg.net/crd_ibm_dell_9-126405.html http://www.dell.com/linux/press.htm SGI: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/31/ns-9268.html IBM: http://www4.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164, 2267514,00.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/990930-000020.html Compaq: http://www.digital.com/inFORM/issues/issue27/ln02- linux-story.htm Intel: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/32/ns-9301.html http://www.linuxia64.com/ Fujitsu: http://www.theregister.co.uk/990929-000017.html Microsoft: http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/nt/bugs.shtml http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q 150/7/34.ASP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q 194/8/34.ASP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q 224/7/93.ASP Other side: HP: http://www.theregister.co.uk/990920-000020.html
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the correct Microsoft approved pronounciation of bugs is 'features' and bugfixes 'enhanchements' or 'service' packs... Okay now we can add another synonym, 'issues' Well, I thought IE5, often installed on NT, has quite some nice features too.. 'talking about security..
For years, since using Windows NT, I've been waiting for ide busmastering support for NT... Time has gone by and I also had many mainboards with Intel chipsets (call me stupid). Still, no sign of real busmastering support... Sure, they claim there is some support since service pack 2 (using the dmacheck util), but it's a hoax. Intel won't support it's chipsets under NT and the only alternative is a Intel BM driver provided by Heylard Packard, but with no support at all.. UDMA/33 or UDMA/66 (ata66) support totally lacks under NT also and the HP/Intel drivers won't support ata-pi devices and especially thing like an Iomega zipdrive... Every time I try to copy some files from one ide device to another, the cpu load turns 100% (Celeron 450, 192mb ram. 440bx mobo), this has been like this for years, no matter how fast my processor gets. Also using HPs drivers has always gotten me a lot of BSODs. NT SMP support is great -sure-, maybe just what I need to compensate this devicianty of NT. (sorry for my English) In time, I've tried it with various hd's and a lot of ata-pi cdroms, it just doesn't work. Face it, if you want to run NT stable and fast, you just gotto have high-end SCSI devices who cost a fortune. And what about the long awaited fat32 support, so I don't have to use fat16 with 16kb clusters for my Windows 9x toy os? (Win9x?, be honest, everyone likes to play a RTS game every now and than) NT, great FS support! -not- Under Linux I use UFS, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, EXT2 all just for free and not some crappy BSOD happy Winternals sollution. I don't see any ata66 support coming for NT in the (near) future either. Just face it, NT is simply not end user ready.. (At the moment, I'm using the experimental ata66 patch for my 6 ide devices under Linux 2.2.12 and it rocks!) p.s. Is it so difficult to make multiple swap files of 128mb M$? p.s.2 Here's another good example of M$ NT uptime and releability: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme/euronet-ntfailure.ht ml The commerial part of my ISP who tries to run a business and make money using NT... read the message that has been shown for days (weeks?)