The example was given below but I'll repeat it here.
Diablo][ ~=$50usd.
SpiceGirls 1st. Album(New) ~=16
Cost to produce/record Album ~=$500,000 (I have the stats I will find it later)
Amount to promote ~= $17,000,000
Amount received concertsales/albumsales ca. 1996-1999 ~= 130,000,000.
Where's your 35000% now?
I don't know how much it cost to make Diablo][, but they have a MUCH higher markup than an album does, as they do not have as much real world expenses. Lawyers are more expensive than programmers.
Ok, I for one am fully in favor of this lawsuit, but please don't make the mistake of saying that $.30 is all it takes to make a CD. A professional album costs upwards of $100,000 to record. Plus advertisements, plus distribution, plus the amount of money the industry "eats" for all the bands that don't sell. Don't forget for every Spice girls there are 100 bands that get printed, promoted and distributed and never sell crap. CD's should be cheaper, that is for sure, but your argument just doesn't cut it here.
God will you shut up about the RIAA already? Not everyone wants a 1 inch device that runs everything they own. Noone is getting rid of CD's anytime soon. Think about how stupid that is. Are there 270million people online in the US? NO. Until the entire world is wired at birth, CD's will not disappear for an online counterpart.
One other thing, you rant and rant about the RIAA. It seems to me these are the rants of a bitter musician, who found that noone wanted to listen to his crap. The RIAA isn't stopping you from distributing your music, Napster or not. Why don't you bite the bullet and spend a few grand on printing CD's. Why? BECAUSE NOONE WILL BUY THEM. You know it. Now get over it and shut the fuck up already.
So you don't think the same thing is going through Rob & Co.'s collective minds when they post this stuff? DId you see how many replies that article had? It's all about reload and page views my friend. If you think these articles are posted for anything other than generating hits then you are sorely mistaken. Take a look at Katz's last article. He insulted practically everyone who reads slashdot!
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everything I've said about libel is true go look it up if you don't believe me. Rob & Co. could have a lawsuit about this if they wished.
First of all, when the osm thing happened, noone mentioned any names. There was a reason for that. There is this little law that regards this thing called LIBEL. Since the people behind the osm thing knew it was a joke, they were smart enough to make allusions, and people from/. took the bait and ran with it, coming up with conspiracy theories ranging from ddos to Natalie Portman.
You on the other hand have commited libel, so I really hope you ARE getting sued, or else guess what buddy? YOU'RE GONNA! And they will have a case. You have named 2 seperate corporate entities in a lawsuit, and that's libel as far as the courts are concerned.
The only way to cure programmers block is a direct infusion of skittles and mountain dew intravenously, keeping the brain in an alert and creative state.
I think I was unclear when I said they have more than ever. I meant through the search engines, and yes I know they are all renegade OLGA sites. But my point remains, it is still the best resource for guitar and bass tabs on the net.
and that composers were getting performance royalties when someone like me played stuff they'd learned off the net down at the local bar
When has that ever happened? I've played in many a band, played in many a cover band, and played many a bar. In none of these situations did we ever have to pay composers royalties.
With regards to OLGA, it is still there and in my opinion better than ever. It has more tabs then they used to, and more mirrors. Ok, you have to click and search, there are maybe 3 extra clicks involved. But who cares? The information is stll there. I agree that what the RIAA did sucks, but don't tell people that OLGA is gone because it isn't.
Well I'm not talking about dos type things. About 20 minutes ago I couldn't hit this story for about 10 minutes. My point is not that it goes down for extended periods of time, but it goes down for 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there. That's pretty aggravating.
Bear in mind that I am not trying to flame slashdot, obviously I like it or I wouldn't read it. But most of these problems I see in the middle of the night (eastern time2 or 3 am). You have to wonder then because you KNOW they aren't getting nearly as many hits as they are getting at 11 or 12 am. That's all. I do love/. and if I was a coder I would contribute, but I'm not so I suggest instead.
And true/. is not in the same league as Yahoo, but I consider it to be a lot larger than my friend from colleges site, and they have a LOT of money and major corporate backing.
This may be a little offtopic, but does anyone see the irony here?/. is probably one of the most unreliable sites around and yet here they go posting this *disclaimer* I know they aren't poking fun at kuro5hin.
But here's how I see it,/. is on hardcore equipment, and pays people to run it. If I ran a server (NT jokes aside) that was this unreliable I would be fired in about a week.
How about the odd story that at least tells us what is going on. Just throw something in the quickies like Hey we had some problems due to a mySQL misconfig, here's what happened and why. Not only would this satisfy a lot of us/bitchers, but it may provide a learning experience for all of us using similar tools.
Trolls have nothing to do with bridges. THe word troll has nothing to do with a mystical creature that makes you answer questions and steals your gold. The word troll has to do with the style of fishing, meaning throwing out your line, dragging it around the pond/lake/river and waiting for bites. Please remember this the next time you call a troll a troll.
Actually I said the misunderstanding of those things was the problem. These kids are confusing Free (as in beer) with free (as in speech). Most cheating is not creative, it's using someone elses hacks and scripts A LA scriptkiddiez. The people who write mods and things are talented usually, but the guy poking memory bits trying to find the bit for "infinite BFG bullets" (or whatever the current cool multiplayer game is) is jsut trying to find a way to win at all costs.
This is obviously a result of our declining values in this country. For some reason everyone feels the need to get something for nothing, whether it's software, music, or a level 14 fire spell. Kids today don't want to recognize the value of spending weeks walking around in circles and killing the same 6 monsters in order to advance 1 level. If you ask me "open source" and "Free Software" is part of the problem. HighSchoolers seem to think that free software means no rules and no consequences.
If I went into a job interview and took the previous persons resume in with me how far would that get me? That's about the same thing as cheating in video games.
These kids better wise up before they get smacked by the real word.
uhhh, if the Filmmakers did not release things giving you the privilege of watching their films you would have nothing to fairly use, and no argument, which is my point.
Hey I agree about the DCMA. But with regards to cheap storage, in a couple years you will be able to ship people 1 gig harddrives for the same prive as a burned CD-R. Cheap compression will keep getting created, and thanks to opensource, someone will create something comparable to DivX or DVD or Zip or Tar or whatever. So why be concerned about the MPAA? Take your money elsewhere.
That doesn't make any sense, and you're obviously a troll, but I'll bite.
What you say has nothing to do with my point of whether or not you *need* DVD. My point is, you don't. There is so much to see and enjoy in the world that doesn't have to do with the crispness of the screen or the number of colors or frames per second. In short, go outside.
I guess the idea is really who cares? So the MPAA doesn't want you to watch stuff on whatever. Ok just don't buy the hardware in the firstplace. Sometimes it seems that people act like you are losing some right by not being able to watch a DVD movie. It's not like your day is incomplete without the 15th anniversary release of Teen Wolf with extra footage.
An open business model like say many eyes = many credit card numbers? Should companies share all their advertising ideas? Should they release "beta commercials" early and often? Has this worked for RedHat? How about Pearl? What are you talking about? For crying out loud, open source barely works in the software world, why would any business want to open up their sales tactics? What does "installing Linux" have to do with open sourcing your business?
You are about as ridiculous as a "let's open source Natalie Portman" post.
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Diablo][ ~=$50usd.
SpiceGirls 1st. Album(New) ~=16 Cost to produce/record Album ~=$500,000 (I have the stats I will find it later)
Amount to promote ~= $17,000,000
Amount received concertsales/albumsales ca. 1996-1999 ~= 130,000,000.
Where's your 35000% now? I don't know how much it cost to make Diablo][, but they have a MUCH higher markup than an album does, as they do not have as much real world expenses. Lawyers are more expensive than programmers.
Ok, I for one am fully in favor of this lawsuit, but please don't make the mistake of saying that $.30 is all it takes to make a CD. A professional album costs upwards of $100,000 to record. Plus advertisements, plus distribution, plus the amount of money the industry "eats" for all the bands that don't sell. Don't forget for every Spice girls there are 100 bands that get printed, promoted and distributed and never sell crap. CD's should be cheaper, that is for sure, but your argument just doesn't cut it here.
One other thing, you rant and rant about the RIAA. It seems to me these are the rants of a bitter musician, who found that noone wanted to listen to his crap. The RIAA isn't stopping you from distributing your music, Napster or not. Why don't you bite the bullet and spend a few grand on printing CD's. Why? BECAUSE NOONE WILL BUY THEM. You know it. Now get over it and shut the fuck up already.
I wish I could troll like Katz & Co.
So you don't think the same thing is going through Rob & Co.'s collective minds when they post this stuff? DId you see how many replies that article had? It's all about reload and page views my friend. If you think these articles are posted for anything other than generating hits then you are sorely mistaken. Take a look at Katz's last article. He insulted practically everyone who reads slashdot!
That wasn't a troll, that was a statement of fact.
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everything I've said about libel is true go look it up if you don't believe me. Rob & Co. could have a lawsuit about this if they wished.
First of all, when the osm thing happened, noone mentioned any names. There was a reason for that. There is this little law that regards this thing called LIBEL. Since the people behind the osm thing knew it was a joke, they were smart enough to make allusions, and people from /. took the bait and ran with it, coming up with conspiracy theories ranging from ddos to Natalie Portman.
You on the other hand have commited libel, so I really hope you ARE getting sued, or else guess what buddy? YOU'RE GONNA! And they will have a case. You have named 2 seperate corporate entities in a lawsuit, and that's libel as far as the courts are concerned.
Have Fun!
SCO will retain its Tarantella Division, and the SCO OpenServer revenue stream and intellectual properties
So I would assume that SCO is keeping the source for OpenServer. It doesn't mention UnixWare anywhere but this statement may apply to that as well.
Duh.
I think I was unclear when I said they have more than ever. I meant through the search engines, and yes I know they are all renegade OLGA sites. But my point remains, it is still the best resource for guitar and bass tabs on the net.
When has that ever happened? I've played in many a band, played in many a cover band, and played many a bar. In none of these situations did we ever have to pay composers royalties.
With regards to OLGA, it is still there and in my opinion better than ever. It has more tabs then they used to, and more mirrors. Ok, you have to click and search, there are maybe 3 extra clicks involved. But who cares? The information is stll there. I agree that what the RIAA did sucks, but don't tell people that OLGA is gone because it isn't.
Bear in mind that I am not trying to flame slashdot, obviously I like it or I wouldn't read it. But most of these problems I see in the middle of the night (eastern time2 or 3 am). You have to wonder then because you KNOW they aren't getting nearly as many hits as they are getting at 11 or 12 am. That's all. I do love /. and if I was a coder I would contribute, but I'm not so I suggest instead.
And true /. is not in the same league as Yahoo, but I consider it to be a lot larger than my friend from colleges site, and they have a LOT of money and major corporate backing.
Just my opinion mind you.
Marc
But here's how I see it, /. is on hardcore equipment, and pays people to run it. If I ran a server (NT jokes aside) that was this unreliable I would be fired in about a week.
How about the odd story that at least tells us what is going on. Just throw something in the quickies like Hey we had some problems due to a mySQL misconfig, here's what happened and why. Not only would this satisfy a lot of us /bitchers, but it may provide a learning experience for all of us using similar tools.
Thank You.
Actually I said the misunderstanding of those things was the problem. These kids are confusing Free (as in beer) with free (as in speech). Most cheating is not creative, it's using someone elses hacks and scripts A LA scriptkiddiez. The people who write mods and things are talented usually, but the guy poking memory bits trying to find the bit for "infinite BFG bullets" (or whatever the current cool multiplayer game is) is jsut trying to find a way to win at all costs.
If I went into a job interview and took the previous persons resume in with me how far would that get me? That's about the same thing as cheating in video games.
These kids better wise up before they get smacked by the real word.
uhhh, if the Filmmakers did not release things giving you the privilege of watching their films you would have nothing to fairly use, and no argument, which is my point.
See my point?
No you are losing a privelege(sp).
What you say has nothing to do with my point of whether or not you *need* DVD. My point is, you don't. There is so much to see and enjoy in the world that doesn't have to do with the crispness of the screen or the number of colors or frames per second. In short, go outside.
I guess the idea is really who cares? So the MPAA doesn't want you to watch stuff on whatever. Ok just don't buy the hardware in the firstplace. Sometimes it seems that people act like you are losing some right by not being able to watch a DVD movie. It's not like your day is incomplete without the 15th anniversary release of Teen Wolf with extra footage.
The question becomes why do I know this....well..uh... I heard a report about it on the net.... yeah that's the ticket.
Spake Timothy,
From the article,
The original poster was quite valid in flaming Timothy. I think you should reread the article, and the /. postings.
Marc
You are about as ridiculous as a "let's open source Natalie Portman" post.