Y'know, it occurs to me that anti-evolutionists don't just have a problem with evolution, but also geology, cosmology, carbon dating, physics. Any I missed?
Ah, you must be part of the "I'm not part of a generation" generation. A post-hippie, basically.
You can make a post into a hippie? What are YOU on, hippie?
-mcgrew
PS: something just happened that happens daily that refutes Professor Bill's entire thesis. Now, rememeber I'm a 55 year old geezer. So what do I seee almost daily at slashdot, where all of the admins are young enough to be my kids?
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I'm concerned about the narrowm view of the world IT people and engineers have these days. I think the problem starts at college - There's a culture that somehow science is more rational and usefull then the humanitities. Lecturers encourage students to joke about arts students, and humilaite them whenever possible. This encourages eliteism, and I for one am sick of it.
You technical types are far to narrow minded and cynsical. You should learn to enjoy life.
You non-technocal types should use a text editor instead of a word processor to compose your slashdot (news for nerds) comments, so that each line isn't truncated like that.
It doesn't make sense to compare libraries to computer searches because the two haven't been around for the same amount of time.
It doesn't make sense to compare horses to cars because the two haven't been around for the same amount of time.
Computer searches as a skill has only had maybe a decade or two to develop while the concept of a library has had generations to develop.
I've only been alive for three generations, and one of the three has had computer searches all their lives. I've had more time to develop skills at the library than you, but I've had exectly the same amount of time to develop coomputer search skills.
And I'm better at googling than schlepping down to the library.
Kids these days simply give up thinking
I read the same rant by one of the ancient Greeks, and I read it three decades or more ago.
-mcgrew
PS- you're only as young as you can convince yourself you are. I keep getting younger every day! The trouble with the younger generation is that they haven't developed good bedroom skills, and the older women are fugly. I can't win!
I feel like I'm more capable of absorbing large amounts of information from diverse sources than the last generation.
That feeling comes from your inexperience. Your generation is no different than mine was when I was your age, and mine is no different from Ben Franklin's generation. The world has changed much, but people have changed little. Why did my grandfather's generation (he was born in 1896) call young folks "whippersnappers?" Because the young generation was always impatient. Back in the horse and buggy days, the way to get speed out of your transportation was to snap a whip, making the horse run faster.
Every generation of 21 year olds think its generation is different from the previous one. Every generation of 21 year olds is wrong.
I've never seen any computer with even non-annoying search facilities, let alone awesome ones. Attention MindPrison, YOU'RE BUSTED! We know you're a time traveller. Unfortunately you got the year wrong this trip. The awesome search facilities haven't showed up yet.
Can I have a few samples of your transparent aluminum, Mr. Scott? Oh and BTW, you don't talk into it, you move it around the table.
I'm wondering what rock profBill has been hiding under for the last quarter century? All that time empty-v has been blamed for impatience. That one makes sense, since the music videos empty-v used to play were all three minute movies with two second scenes.
How would Google make people impatient? It makes no sense at all. Plus, he says it's not just the computer generation but everyone.
I think this is a case of the professor not seeing what's in front of him: different speeds. When I'm at work on the shared T-1, navigating the internet is annoyingly slow ocmpared to my cablemodem at home, and worse, the sppeds vary greatly.
If the study was done in a crowded library on an overloaded T-1, then the impatience people are showing isn't due to Google, but due to the fact that they're used to seeeing a new screen instantly when they click a link, and having to wait at what often seems slower than dialup when at the library.
His Senate race HQ was right next door to Recycled Records. When I'd walk past with used vinyl, I'd see a sea of black faces. No white faces, no brown faces, no tan faces, African-American all. If I walked past Ron Paul's HQ and saw only white faces I'd not vote for him, either.
His Senate campaign was financed by bankers. The first thing he did as Senator was to vote FOR bankrupcy "reform", which was a gift to the banks and credit card companies and a slap in the face to normal Americans.
Obama is a corporate stooge like all the rest of them.
What a lot of designers and engineers fail to realize is that, just because something works for them, that does not mean it will work for a majority of users.
There's one fairly recent innovation in design that is way overdue - useability testing.
As long as nothing except gameplay itself is copied, I (and IANAL) think Hasbro's fucked and fucked royally. You can't copyright an idea, only its implimentation.
You could make a game called "Microsoft" (and I would be surprised if there isn't something like this on the internet already) that is a Monopoly clone, but as long as you use different words and pictures than Monopoly, Parker Brothers would have no legal standing.
Actually the Flying Furry Freak Brothers (IIRC) had a drug game called "Feds and Heads" that was very similar to Monopoly, that they published in Playboy Magazine some time in the 1970s. I may still have it, not sure. At any rate, I think Hasbro's going to waste a lot of money on their lawyers, and on any lawyers the people they sur hire.
Like Bugsey said, "what a maroon!" Wait, someone's at the door-
Shit. It's a subpeona from warner Brothers, they're suing me for copyright infringement for saying "Like Bugsey said, 'what a maroon!'" Wait, someone else's at the door-
Paul supports ending participation in and funding of organizations he believes override U.S. sovereignty, such as the International Criminal Court, the United Nations, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the WTO, the NATO, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
Sounds good to me. However, it would take Congress' doing.
He supports abolishment of... the Federal Reserve
Not sure about that one
He speaks in terms of left-right politics
Immaterial. All Republicrats do.
Paul has stated that he doesn't accept the theory of Evolution... repeatedly saying that evolution is "just a theory."
Also immaterial. Evolution's existance has nothing to do with the Presidency whatever, so the President's beliefs about evolution don't matter in his role as President. If he were running for the District 187 school board that would garner his opponent my vote, but he's not running for school board.
In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act
Which would likely have been shot down in Federal court, as so many stupid laws are.
He believes the internet should be free from government regulation and taxation
That's a good thing
and opposes... net neutrality
OK that's not
Paul introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005
Which would also be shot down by the Supreme Court. While we're on this subject, why is it that women have reproductive rights, but men don't? Why should a woman be allowed to abort a fetus the fetus' father wants, despite the fact that she has a plethorah of birth control choices and we men have two, one of which is permanent and one of which greatly decreases the pleasure of sex?
Life doesn't begin at conception. It doesn't begin at all. It only continues and recombines; the sperm is alive, the egg is alive, every living animal and plant cell splits off of another cell. The question should be "when is a blastocyst, zygote, or fetus a viable human?"
It looks to me like he's either very simple-minded
It looks to me like he would veto a lot of legislation, which IMO is a good thing; we have far too many laws.
After Carter, who was a very intelligent man, I thought perhaps intelligence detracted from his ability to govern. I never thought I'd see a worse President, but the simple-minded dufus we have in the White House now proved me wrong.
knows that he won't ever have to make good on his promises, so he just promises everything in order to get the support of people too gullible to realize the game he's playing.
No different from any other politician. I don't expect to see him on the ballot in the general election; a vote for him is a protest against the status quo, not unlike a vote for a Greenie or a Libbie.
But I'm damned tired of Republicans and Democrats taking "campaign contribution" bribes from the great American corporations like Sony, BP, Shell, Crysler, etc. I don't like the police state* my country has turned into and I'm not voting for the status quo any more.
Thank God for term limits. Too bad we don't have them for Congress and the Senate!
-mcgrew
* I mentioned my detainment by the FBI, DEA and local cops last summer in a comment in the current slashdot poll, I should make a journal out of it. I'm a gray haired white guy and my righte were not only violated, they were completely ignored. I can only imagine what it would have been like if I'd been black or Hispanic.
I think having programs that try to do everything for everybody are flawed in themselves, and it's one of the things I hate about Microsoft products. There'll be a thousand features, maybe ten of which I actually use, yet lacking in one or two features that I really want. Word, for example; I type and choose typefaces and sizes and that's about it. Yet I miss Word Perfect's "reveal codes" feature.
As to notepad, I use the hell out of notepad. I do drafts of my slashdot journals in notepad then paste in the browser, I (very infrequently) write letters to friends (Linda is the first person I've written in years, and she's in prison), and I use it for writing HTML.
But I like to believe that we might yet hold on to some Constitutional rights that would really put a damper on this thing
That's fine if you work for the government, but the Constitution doesn't apply to corporations. The Constitution sets up the method of government and bestows powers and obligations to government.
The first amendment, for example, says you have freedom of religion. It doesn't say that your employer can't restrict prayer in the workplace.
I majored in Art and Design (late 1970s, before modern computers; the school's computer used punch cards), so I think I'm qualified to give you a hearty "hear hear!"
Either the people designing these days never studied design, or they've changed all the principles.
"Form follows function", or at least it did back in the stone age. BTW, speaking of design, the firehose is completely broken in IE 6, which I'm forced to use at work. It's so fun playing "catch the moving link!"
What's wrong with having a needle stuck in your ass? Yes, sometimes the doctor needs to give you a shot of something or other but if he gives you the choice between an oral antibiotic and a big needle in the ass, which are you going to choose?
If you have two things that perform the same functions, and one has a steep learning curve and the other doesn't, the one without a learning curve is the best one. Just like a pill beats a shot any day.
Yes, like a needle in the ass, sometmes a steep learning curve is necessary. But it should never be wanted. Even if your tool is complex, if your IU has a steep learning curve you've failed at designing the UI.
"small software company that is known for its considerable usability expertise and innovative user interface design. The Humanized developers will be working at Mozilla Labs on Firefox and innovative new projects."
I hope I'm wrong, but "innovative" and "user interface" in the same sentence are sometimes good, but rarely. I'm thinking of innovations like Microsoft's not showing all menu items, or web 2.0 innovations that move the fucking link when you try to click (ala the firehose, please redesign that travesty, I have to use IE at work!)
OTOH there are good UI innovations, like the circular menu that nobody's used. Fingers crossed, at least they have no monopoly and if Firefox starts sucking I can go elsewhere.
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Y'know, it occurs to me that anti-evolutionists don't just have a problem with evolution, but also geology, cosmology, carbon dating, physics. Any I missed?
Logic?
"Logic is overrated." -Mr. Spock's ex-wife
Ah, you must be part of the "I'm not part of a generation" generation. A post-hippie, basically.
You can make a post into a hippie? What are YOU on, hippie?
-mcgrew
PS: something just happened that happens daily that refutes Professor Bill's entire thesis. Now, rememeber I'm a 55 year old geezer. So what do I seee almost daily at slashdot, where all of the admins are young enough to be my kids?
Slow Down Cowboy! Slashdot requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment. It's been 16 seconds since you last successfully posted a comment
You kids are just too damned slow!
Dude, you're way to old and slow to get first post.
I'm concerned about the narrowm view of the world IT people and engineers
have these days. I think the problem starts at college -
There's a culture that somehow science is more rational and usefull
then the humanitities. Lecturers encourage students to joke about arts
students, and humilaite them whenever possible. This encourages
eliteism, and I for one am sick of it.
You technical types are far to narrow minded and cynsical. You should
learn to enjoy life.
You non-technocal types should use a text editor instead of a word processor to compose your slashdot (news for nerds) comments, so that each line isn't truncated like that.
And if you think this nerd isn't enjoying life, then you haven't read any of my journals.
It doesn't make sense to compare libraries to computer searches because the two haven't been around for the same amount of time.
It doesn't make sense to compare horses to cars because the two haven't been around for the same amount of time.
Computer searches as a skill has only had maybe a decade or two to develop while the concept of a library has had generations to develop.
I've only been alive for three generations, and one of the three has had computer searches all their lives. I've had more time to develop skills at the library than you, but I've had exectly the same amount of time to develop coomputer search skills.
And I'm better at googling than schlepping down to the library.
Kids these days simply give up thinking
I read the same rant by one of the ancient Greeks, and I read it three decades or more ago.
-mcgrew
PS- you're only as young as you can convince yourself you are. I keep getting younger every day! The trouble with the younger generation is that they haven't developed good bedroom skills, and the older women are fugly. I can't win!
I feel like I'm more capable of absorbing large amounts of information from diverse sources than the last generation.
That feeling comes from your inexperience. Your generation is no different than mine was when I was your age, and mine is no different from Ben Franklin's generation. The world has changed much, but people have changed little. Why did my grandfather's generation (he was born in 1896) call young folks "whippersnappers?" Because the young generation was always impatient. Back in the horse and buggy days, the way to get speed out of your transportation was to snap a whip, making the horse run faster.
Every generation of 21 year olds think its generation is different from the previous one. Every generation of 21 year olds is wrong.
-mcgrew
(PS- your generation is lousy in bed)
-mcgrew
modern computers with awesome search facilities
I've never seen any computer with even non-annoying search facilities, let alone awesome ones. Attention MindPrison, YOU'RE BUSTED! We know you're a time traveller. Unfortunately you got the year wrong this trip. The awesome search facilities haven't showed up yet.
Can I have a few samples of your transparent aluminum, Mr. Scott? Oh and BTW, you don't talk into it, you move it around the table.
-mcgrew
I'm wondering what rock profBill has been hiding under for the last quarter century? All that time empty-v has been blamed for impatience. That one makes sense, since the music videos empty-v used to play were all three minute movies with two second scenes.
How would Google make people impatient? It makes no sense at all. Plus, he says it's not just the computer generation but everyone.
I think this is a case of the professor not seeing what's in front of him: different speeds. When I'm at work on the shared T-1, navigating the internet is annoyingly slow ocmpared to my cablemodem at home, and worse, the sppeds vary greatly.
If the study was done in a crowded library on an overloaded T-1, then the impatience people are showing isn't due to Google, but due to the fact that they're used to seeeing a new screen instantly when they click a link, and having to wait at what often seems slower than dialup when at the library.
This is, to me, a big DUH!!!
-mcgrew
- His Senate race HQ was right next door to Recycled Records. When I'd walk past with used vinyl, I'd see a sea of black faces. No white faces, no brown faces, no tan faces, African-American all. If I walked past Ron Paul's HQ and saw only white faces I'd not vote for him, either.
- His Senate campaign was financed by bankers. The first thing he did as Senator was to vote FOR bankrupcy "reform", which was a gift to the banks and credit card companies and a slap in the face to normal Americans.
Obama is a corporate stooge like all the rest of them.What a lot of designers and engineers fail to realize is that, just because something works for them, that does not mean it will work for a majority of users.
There's one fairly recent innovation in design that is way overdue - useability testing.
As long as nothing except gameplay itself is copied, I (and IANAL) think Hasbro's fucked and fucked royally. You can't copyright an idea, only its implimentation.
You could make a game called "Microsoft" (and I would be surprised if there isn't something like this on the internet already) that is a Monopoly clone, but as long as you use different words and pictures than Monopoly, Parker Brothers would have no legal standing.
Actually the Flying Furry Freak Brothers (IIRC) had a drug game called "Feds and Heads" that was very similar to Monopoly, that they published in Playboy Magazine some time in the 1970s. I may still have it, not sure. At any rate, I think Hasbro's going to waste a lot of money on their lawyers, and on any lawyers the people they sur hire.
Like Bugsey said, "what a maroon!" Wait, someone's at the door-
Shit. It's a subpeona from warner Brothers, they're suing me for copyright infringement for saying "Like Bugsey said, 'what a maroon!'" Wait, someone else's at the door-
I like playing "strip go fish" with my friends (caution: the linked journal has prostitutes and drugs, you filthy minded pervert)
"Who is it?"
"Hasbro"
"Hasbro who?"
"Has bro come back wid da shit?"
I usually do use fullscreen mode.
So, do you work for the RIAA or SCO?
Paul supports ending participation in and funding of organizations he believes override U.S. sovereignty, such as the International Criminal Court, the United Nations, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the WTO, the NATO, and the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America
... the Federal Reserve
... repeatedly saying that evolution is "just a theory."
... net neutrality
Sounds good to me. However, it would take Congress' doing.
He supports abolishment of
Not sure about that one
He speaks in terms of left-right politics
Immaterial. All Republicrats do.
Paul has stated that he doesn't accept the theory of Evolution
Also immaterial. Evolution's existance has nothing to do with the Presidency whatever, so the President's beliefs about evolution don't matter in his role as President. If he were running for the District 187 school board that would garner his opponent my vote, but he's not running for school board.
In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act
Which would likely have been shot down in Federal court, as so many stupid laws are.
He believes the internet should be free from government regulation and taxation
That's a good thing
and opposes
OK that's not
Paul introduced The Sanctity of Life Act of 2005
Which would also be shot down by the Supreme Court. While we're on this subject, why is it that women have reproductive rights, but men don't? Why should a woman be allowed to abort a fetus the fetus' father wants, despite the fact that she has a plethorah of birth control choices and we men have two, one of which is permanent and one of which greatly decreases the pleasure of sex?
Life doesn't begin at conception. It doesn't begin at all. It only continues and recombines; the sperm is alive, the egg is alive, every living animal and plant cell splits off of another cell. The question should be "when is a blastocyst, zygote, or fetus a viable human?"
It looks to me like he's either very simple-minded
It looks to me like he would veto a lot of legislation, which IMO is a good thing; we have far too many laws.
After Carter, who was a very intelligent man, I thought perhaps intelligence detracted from his ability to govern. I never thought I'd see a worse President, but the simple-minded dufus we have in the White House now proved me wrong.
knows that he won't ever have to make good on his promises, so he just promises everything in order to get the support of people too gullible to realize the game he's playing.
No different from any other politician. I don't expect to see him on the ballot in the general election; a vote for him is a protest against the status quo, not unlike a vote for a Greenie or a Libbie.
But I'm damned tired of Republicans and Democrats taking "campaign contribution" bribes from the great American corporations like Sony, BP, Shell, Crysler, etc. I don't like the police state* my country has turned into and I'm not voting for the status quo any more.
Thank God for term limits. Too bad we don't have them for Congress and the Senate!
-mcgrew
* I mentioned my detainment by the FBI, DEA and local cops last summer in a comment in the current slashdot poll, I should make a journal out of it. I'm a gray haired white guy and my righte were not only violated, they were completely ignored. I can only imagine what it would have been like if I'd been black or Hispanic.
I an holding judgement, although it still worries me a bit.
I think having programs that try to do everything for everybody are flawed in themselves, and it's one of the things I hate about Microsoft products. There'll be a thousand features, maybe ten of which I actually use, yet lacking in one or two features that I really want. Word, for example; I type and choose typefaces and sizes and that's about it. Yet I miss Word Perfect's "reveal codes" feature.
As to notepad, I use the hell out of notepad. I do drafts of my slashdot journals in notepad then paste in the browser, I (very infrequently) write letters to friends (Linda is the first person I've written in years, and she's in prison), and I use it for writing HTML.
But I like to believe that we might yet hold on to some Constitutional rights that would really put a damper on this thing
That's fine if you work for the government, but the Constitution doesn't apply to corporations. The Constitution sets up the method of government and bestows powers and obligations to government.
The first amendment, for example, says you have freedom of religion. It doesn't say that your employer can't restrict prayer in the workplace.
Maybe Slashdot should hire a few of those as well. "Retrieve more replys" Come on!
I like the way the Firehose links move right when I'm trying to click one. Great job, guys!
I majored in Art and Design (late 1970s, before modern computers; the school's computer used punch cards), so I think I'm qualified to give you a hearty "hear hear!"
Either the people designing these days never studied design, or they've changed all the principles.
"Form follows function", or at least it did back in the stone age. BTW, speaking of design, the firehose is completely broken in IE 6, which I'm forced to use at work. It's so fun playing "catch the moving link!"
-mcgrew
What's wrong with learning curves?
What's wrong with having a needle stuck in your ass? Yes, sometimes the doctor needs to give you a shot of something or other but if he gives you the choice between an oral antibiotic and a big needle in the ass, which are you going to choose?
If you have two things that perform the same functions, and one has a steep learning curve and the other doesn't, the one without a learning curve is the best one. Just like a pill beats a shot any day.
Yes, like a needle in the ass, sometmes a steep learning curve is necessary. But it should never be wanted. Even if your tool is complex, if your IU has a steep learning curve you've failed at designing the UI.
There's good reason to change its Linux interface. On my small monitor there's not much of the Firefox screen that's devoted to the page being viewed.
I still like it better than konqueror though.
This doesn't look good AT ALL.
"small software company that is known for its considerable usability expertise and innovative user interface design. The Humanized developers will be working at Mozilla Labs on Firefox and innovative new projects."
I hope I'm wrong, but "innovative" and "user interface" in the same sentence are sometimes good, but rarely. I'm thinking of innovations like Microsoft's not showing all menu items, or web 2.0 innovations that move the fucking link when you try to click (ala the firehose, please redesign that travesty, I have to use IE at work!)
OTOH there are good UI innovations, like the circular menu that nobody's used. Fingers crossed, at least they have no monopoly and if Firefox starts sucking I can go elsewhere.
-mcgrew