The particular app in use is of no regard to the discussion. The GP used Limewire, but you can substitute any P2P app in the comment and its veracity stands.
Personally, I prefer Morpheus, because you can set it to NOT share downloaded files. If I'm trying to download an indie file and download an RIAA file by mistake, I don't want to have to pay a $4000 fine for clicking on the wrong file.
There's no way to know whether or not any particular file is legit or not until you have DLed it, and then you can only tell if you recognise the song. Say you're trying to find "Napster of Puppets", a scathing parody of Metallica's song that its creators emailed me after I posted a completely different "Napster of Puppets in my old abandoned Quake site, and get Metallica's song instead. Should you have to pay the RIAA label? With Morpheus you don't have to worry about miustakenly downloading some hack's putrid garbage and get sued for the mistake.
Emule is great for movies (download "Star Wreck - In The Pirkinning" if you haven't seen it yet) but not so good for smaller, MP3 sized files.
Its archetecture. When someone starts talking about a "thinking machine" or about how computers should have rights or how computers will become powerful enough to think, I always ask "how many more beads to I have to string on my abacus before it becomes self-aware?"
America is degenerating quickly. If you think your vote counts, you'd better start using it differently at every level.
I certainly hope you mean by that that you should STOP voring for the Republicrats. Because face it, when that great American corporation Sony gives ten million to the Republican and ten million to the Democrat, no matter who loses, Sony wins.
Support authors who publish their content using Creative Commons style licenses
License? I have to get a licence to read now? WTF??? Of course, I guess it's like a driver's license; my grandpa didn't need one, but when everyone got on the road it became dangerous. Now that the internet is here, reading is dangerous. To governments and the corporations that control them, at least.
You've never heard of a "public library?" Damn, just when I'm starting to like the 21st century* some bozo reminds me that the mamon worshipers are trying to take away every good thing I've taken for granted all my life.
(for those of you who didn't RTFA, which is everybodyt but me and that other guy, the links are to Orwell's 1984 and Newsweek's "the future of" something or other.
Actually I don't believe that a soul has anything to do with thought, and I think that free will is an illusion. That can neither be proven nor disproven, either. Thinking is a chemical peocess; MSG or alchohol as well as many other substances (maybe even all substances) can alter your mood, thought, and perception.
A Computer is just a binary abacus. It can't think. That's not to say that something will never be invented in the future that can; if someone discovers Asimov's positronics maybe they can think. But a computer like the one you're using now will never think, although it can, of course, simulate thinking.
"Nerdy gadgets" do not make a nerd. Everyone uses nerdy gadgets. Nerds invent, repair, and modify (hack) them. Every bozo that ever taunted a kid destined to be the next Niel Armstrong* has a cell phone, a computer, and all the other stuff that would not exist were it not for nerds.
Just as every nerd-wannabe buys gadgets but would never in a million years dare to modify them even if he knew how, every jock wannabe studies scores and player statistics as if they actually somehow mattered, even though they'd have a coronary if they ever tried to do a pushup.
-mcgrew
*Niel Armstrong once said "I am and shall always be a pocket protector-wearing nerd!"
The history of the invention of the telephone is a confusing claim and counterclaim, further worsened by the lawsuits which hoped to resolve the patent claims of individuals. It is important to note that there is no one "inventor of the telephone", though Alexander Graham Bell is often credited as such, and the Italian Antonio Meucci was recognized by US Congress on 11th June 2002 for his contributions to inventing a telephone. The modern telephone is the result of work done by many people, all worthy of recognition of their contributions to the field. Bell was the first to patent the telephone, an "apparatus for transmitting vocal or other sounds telegraphically", 16 years after Antonio Meucci, who did not have sufficient funds to file a patent, demonstrated his "teletrofono" in New York in 1860.
My 76 year old dad has neither a cell phone nor a computer, and he likes it that way!
I'm reminded of my mother's dad, who still used the outhouse even after my Uncle installed plumbing and a bathroom. "I lived [n] years without [plumbing/cell phones] and I don't need one now!
I can just see when I hit 90. "Damn it, I lived 90 years without a matter replicator or a transporter and I don't need one now!"
Out of all the policemen in the Police State I live in (USSA), there MUST be at least ONE. Although I'm reminded of the Sherriff in Unforgiven, whan informed that he had just kicked the shit out of an innocent man, replied "innocent of WHAT?"
You're at the wrong website, asswipe. We nerds don't give a shit about your pathetic assfucking sports teams.
Fuck you.
-mcgrew
PS: I must apologize, of course you couldn't see "news for nerds" on the masthead, as jocks are retarded illiterates. And thank you for the chance to flame one of the morons who bully the nerds.
PPS- I shot your goddamned football player. Sucks to be you!
Except that LimeWire is and can be used for indie music thats creators WISH to be heard. Indies don't have radio; until recently they had Internet Radio and P2P, but now don't even have Internet Radio, now that the RIAA and its labels have bought legislation from "your" representatives that effectively killed any US based Internat Radio stations.
I, for one, wish that people would STOP putting the RIAA's crap in their "share" lists. But of course, so long as the average clueless computer user doesn't even know that they're actually sharing music, thinking it's just a place to download from, it's not going to happen.
I mean, how in the hell is anybody going to find that great somg named "scatterbrain" that I can't remember who recorded? Do you have any idea how damned many songs have that name? Of course, if you write a song named "scatterbnrain" and your band records your song and you place it on LimeWire, the RIAA is likely to sue you for uploading one of their "scatterbrain"s. You're going to get sued for uploading your own damned song!
Which is really their aim. They can't really give a shit if you download something you can sample from the radio more easily. If you want to find new indie music you're going to get sued.
My "share list" has hundreds of songs. Their creators specifically thanked me when I told them I was putting them on the internet. Of course, none of these guys would touch the thieves at the major labels with a ten foot pole.
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His points were completely beside my point, which is that it's stupid to rent something that you can get for free.
The particular app in use is of no regard to the discussion. The GP used Limewire, but you can substitute any P2P app in the comment and its veracity stands.
Personally, I prefer Morpheus, because you can set it to NOT share downloaded files. If I'm trying to download an indie file and download an RIAA file by mistake, I don't want to have to pay a $4000 fine for clicking on the wrong file.
There's no way to know whether or not any particular file is legit or not until you have DLed it, and then you can only tell if you recognise the song. Say you're trying to find "Napster of Puppets", a scathing parody of Metallica's song that its creators emailed me after I posted a completely different "Napster of Puppets in my old abandoned Quake site, and get Metallica's song instead. Should you have to pay the RIAA label? With Morpheus you don't have to worry about miustakenly downloading some hack's putrid garbage and get sued for the mistake.
Emule is great for movies (download "Star Wreck - In The Pirkinning" if you haven't seen it yet) but not so good for smaller, MP3 sized files.
If I have hit a nerve than GOOD. perhaps it will get you to rethink your sickeningly elitist ways.
Its archetecture. When someone starts talking about a "thinking machine" or about how computers should have rights or how computers will become powerful enough to think, I always ask "how many more beads to I have to string on my abacus before it becomes self-aware?"
If I had my way we could have both cell phones AND pay phones. I only have a cell phone, haven't had a landline for years.
America is degenerating quickly. If you think your vote counts, you'd better start using it differently at every level.
I certainly hope you mean by that that you should STOP voring for the Republicrats. Because face it, when that great American corporation Sony gives ten million to the Republican and ten million to the Democrat, no matter who loses, Sony wins.
Support authors who publish their content using Creative Commons style licenses
License? I have to get a licence to read now? WTF??? Of course, I guess it's like a driver's license; my grandpa didn't need one, but when everyone got on the road it became dangerous. Now that the internet is here, reading is dangerous. To governments and the corporations that control them, at least.
In short, no. I know it's very unslashdottish but you actually have to RTFA on this one. Or at least the damned summary!
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Reading? What's that?
It's a computer science concept for accessing a hard drive or other device. Has nothing to do with people per se.
I don't need to own, just to rent.
You've never heard of a "public library?" Damn, just when I'm starting to like the 21st century* some bozo reminds me that the mamon worshipers are trying to take away every good thing I've taken for granted all my life.
-mcgrew
*click the sig for explanation
How about that, both links are to fiction!
(for those of you who didn't RTFA, which is everybodyt but me and that other guy, the links are to Orwell's 1984 and Newsweek's "the future of" something or other.
Actually I don't believe that a soul has anything to do with thought, and I think that free will is an illusion. That can neither be proven nor disproven, either. Thinking is a chemical peocess; MSG or alchohol as well as many other substances (maybe even all substances) can alter your mood, thought, and perception.
A Computer is just a binary abacus. It can't think. That's not to say that something will never be invented in the future that can; if someone discovers Asimov's positronics maybe they can think. But a computer like the one you're using now will never think, although it can, of course, simulate thinking.
"Nerdy gadgets" do not make a nerd. Everyone uses nerdy gadgets. Nerds invent, repair, and modify (hack) them. Every bozo that ever taunted a kid destined to be the next Niel Armstrong* has a cell phone, a computer, and all the other stuff that would not exist were it not for nerds.
Just as every nerd-wannabe buys gadgets but would never in a million years dare to modify them even if he knew how, every jock wannabe studies scores and player statistics as if they actually somehow mattered, even though they'd have a coronary if they ever tried to do a pushup.
-mcgrew
*Niel Armstrong once said "I am and shall always be a pocket protector-wearing nerd!"
And I'm glad someone has a sense of humor! I was about to call for my own comment to be morderated as "flamebait!"
You have proven yourself unworthy of being here, Mr. Humorless Coward. Go away or I shall taunt youy again!
Damn it Jim, I'm a nerd, not a vandal.
-mcgrew
My 76 year old dad has neither a cell phone nor a computer, and he likes it that way!
I'm reminded of my mother's dad, who still used the outhouse even after my Uncle installed plumbing and a bathroom. "I lived [n] years without [plumbing/cell phones] and I don't need one now!
I can just see when I hit 90. "Damn it, I lived 90 years without a matter replicator or a transporter and I don't need one now!"
-mcgrew
I don't know about your country, but in mine we pay for cell phone service by the minute. A cell phone IS a pay phone.
The only difference is you pay for your minutes every month (or when you buy a card if you're pay as you go) rather than every time you use it.
One more thought - your elitist classist statement turns my stomach. people like you are what's wrong with capitalism.
No it isn't, and there are no studies that would suggest such a thing.
Out of all the policemen in the Police State I live in (USSA), there MUST be at least ONE. Although I'm reminded of the Sherriff in Unforgiven, whan informed that he had just kicked the shit out of an innocent man, replied "innocent of WHAT?"
Even worse; how would the robot "learn" that when the old person stopped moving it was because it has stuck its appendage through the geezer's chest?
I never ate it. All the chow halls had omelettes and most were pretty good.
You're at the wrong website, asswipe. We nerds don't give a shit about your pathetic assfucking sports teams.
Fuck you.
-mcgrew
PS: I must apologize, of course you couldn't see "news for nerds" on the masthead, as jocks are retarded illiterates. And thank you for the chance to flame one of the morons who bully the nerds.
PPS- I shot your goddamned football player. Sucks to be you!
Except that LimeWire is and can be used for indie music thats creators WISH to be heard. Indies don't have radio; until recently they had Internet Radio and P2P, but now don't even have Internet Radio, now that the RIAA and its labels have bought legislation from "your" representatives that effectively killed any US based Internat Radio stations.
I, for one, wish that people would STOP putting the RIAA's crap in their "share" lists. But of course, so long as the average clueless computer user doesn't even know that they're actually sharing music, thinking it's just a place to download from, it's not going to happen.
I mean, how in the hell is anybody going to find that great somg named "scatterbrain" that I can't remember who recorded? Do you have any idea how damned many songs have that name? Of course, if you write a song named "scatterbnrain" and your band records your song and you place it on LimeWire, the RIAA is likely to sue you for uploading one of their "scatterbrain"s. You're going to get sued for uploading your own damned song!
Which is really their aim. They can't really give a shit if you download something you can sample from the radio more easily. If you want to find new indie music you're going to get sued.
My "share list" has hundreds of songs. Their creators specifically thanked me when I told them I was putting them on the internet. Of course, none of these guys would touch the thieves at the major labels with a ten foot pole.
-mcgrew