Having been modded as redundant I feel need to elaborate
That was priceless! Thanks, you made my day! As to your point, I agree completely. What's wrong with pencils and rulers? The newest software will be out of date by the time these kids get out of college.
All a REAL artist needs is mud and a stick, and he can do without either in a pinch. You have to learn to see before you can learn to render.
By the time your students reach the workforce, the packages will have gone through many revisions and what you're teaching them will have little bearing on what they'll have to know.
I'd say use both - the versions you have as well as open source. And tell the PHBs that since what you're teaching them will be sorely out of date by the time they're in a position to use these skills, not to waste money on commercial software again.
If you were a college teacher you wouldn't have these problems.
Ah, but if the simulation were accurate enough, would the internal qualia of the being so simulated be different from ours?
Does a simulation of a hydrogen bomb, no matter how accurate, produce radiation? Will a flight simulator take you to Paris? Simulation is not reality.
How would we know?
This is what I worry about. We surely will, sooner or later, come up with a devoce that can fool humans into thinking it is sentient, and you'll have nuts calling for "machine rights".
More importantly, how would it?
That is my point entirely - it wouldn't. It couldn't.
If the physics of our world create the qualia of experience, then I think an accurate simulation would give rise to the same qualia.
Again, no matter how accurate you simulate an atomic blast, there is no radiation and nothing in the real world is destroyed.
First, if you have a bigger army and more nukes than anybody else you pretty much have jurisdiction anywhere you feel like it.
Second, this doesn't stop anybody from going to Mars, or outlaw trips to Mars. All it does in says that NASA can't use money Congress has appropriated to send humans to mars; ESA or a private American citizen with enough money could still legally go to Mars.
From being on the inside, talking to multiple Microsoft people including execs... I think their downloadable video's were aided...
Are all you Microsoft execs "morons", as Bob says? That would tend to explain some of the things I find maddening about the software ("error [n] there is no message for this error"; the fact that no two menu items are ever in the same place when an "upgrade" is obtained; the fact that an OS "upgrade" makes your computer run slower; etc. etc. etc.)
I'm certainly OK with the end if both formats fail.
As am I; I don't own an HDTV and as I just shelled out a thousand bucks for a 42 inch flatscreen analog three years ago, I doubt it will matter much to me for quite some time.
My stake in this is that I hate Sony for installing a rootkit on my computer, and I don't like Microsoft very much, either (because I have to use their shitty buggy poorly designed software).
Everyone misquotes that bible verse. Money isn't the root of all evil; money is simply a tool. The love of money is the root of all evil. The love of money is also the root of all bad software.
Indeed, the CD is far from dead. The RIAA has been saying that MP3s are hurting CD sales for almost a decade, yet there is still a large space devoted to CDs at Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc. I don't see a lot of buggy whips at WalMart.
And his post was "insightful?" The RIAA lawyers must have mod points today!
I was referring to EULAs; I'm afraid I should have been more clear about that, considering the context. Indeed, a CC license is only about modifications and distribution. I heartily support CC licenses, they're there to keep the mondyed interests from ripping you off, while the EULAs are there to facilitate the moneyed interests' ripping you off.
To paraphrase an oft misquoted bible verse, "the love of money is the root of all bad software."
A CC license has nothing to do with USING the software. Indeed, it is nothing like a driver's license. I was referring to the stupid EULAs, and the fact that some people think when you buy a music CD or digital book you are bound by some sort of licensing agreement. You're not. The whole thing is absurd.
Thanks, if you liked that one you would have liked the diaries I used to keep at K5 a few years ago when I was on Paxil.
The Chinese have an old curse, "may you live in interesting times". I live an interesting life. I live in Springfield, which is even crazier and less believable than the cartoon Springfield (see Klutzo the Clown tasered to death). I updated that yesterday; according to the Springfield paper it appears that Klutzo may have died from being sat on by a fat man, rather than from the taser.
Oh, my roommate showed up at 6:30 this morning, drunk on her ass. I haven't seen her but once in the last couple of weeks, I think I'll take the afternoon off. If she's drunk enough maybe I'll get lucky!
I'll probably have another journal in a day or two. Thanks again for the kudos!
There is little difference between a cynic and a realist these days. Your point is well taken; if a different party killed off a wing of the Republicrats it would indeed become "whores of a corporatocracy" (I like that phrase BTW).
If we had half a dozen viable parties like most European nations, it would be a lot harder to bribe them. I agree that it would be better to have campaigns publically funded, with contributions outlawed. But that's even less likely than the two proposals I keep hawking:
It would be a felony to contribute to more than one candidate in any given race
It would be a felony to accept money from anyone who is not eligible to vote for that candidate. Bill Gates should not be able to contribute to John Shimkis, who is supposed to represent ME. Microsoft (nor the pipefitter's union) should be allowed to contribute to anyone whatever.
If votes mattered, more people would vote. I do, but I split my vote between the Greens and the Libertarians.
He wants to read a book. That's free; or at least, so far it is. Give the corporate shitmoongers a few more years and libraries will be as outmoded as rooftop TV antennas.
I take it you didn't get the dark humor. Sony is a Japanese company whose US subsidiary "contributes" equally to Democrat and Republican candidates.
"Our" representatives are at the beck and call of foreign interests. They are not representing me; P2P, marijuana, prostitution, and gambling are all illegal, while Sony's rooring my computer garners no penalty whatever. Why didn't Sony's President go to prison for "harming a protected computer" like I would if I cracked their mainframes?
In trhe same vein you may hear me talking about the great American corporations BP, Shell, Chrysler, etc. All are foreign companies that legally bribe those who are supposed to represent me.
My ageing friend Ralph, a WWII veteran, wanted to declare bankrupcy but found that last year's "bankrupcy reform" that sailed through both wings of the Corporate Republicrat Party made it so that Ralph would have lost his house, the house that he owned free and clear. Before "reform" declaring bankrupcy would not cause one to become homeless. As it is he took out a "reverse mortgage" and it's his heirs who lose the house instead.
Obama voted for this travesty. His campaigns are heavily financed by the banks. I will NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances, for President nor for reelection as Senator. He is owned, a slave to the bankers.
The DoJ also appears to buy into the RIAA's argument that making a file available on a P2P network constitutes copyright infringement.
It appears more like the RIAA has bought into the DoJ. We have the best politicians money can buy, unfortunately.
The only people who don't want their files shared are the ones who have radio to get the word out. This isn't about copyright infringement, it's about holding on to a monopoly. File sharers are music lovers who spend a lot more money on music than non file sharers. If the majors could keep indie music off of P2P like they keep it off the radio, they would embrace it.
How to rip from vinyl or tape (or your radio if you want the entire top-40) Birth of a label-sanctioned pirate radio station Why is it that KSHE has played seven albums in their entirety, back to back, every Sunday for forty years with the RIAA labels' blessing? If you live in St. Louis you get seven free CDs every week!
Does your public library have unlimited books on all topics you want?
Yes, there's this thing we have called an "interlibrary loan". You may have to wait a couple of weeks before the library gets it in, but you can pretty much get anything that's in print. I thought most libraries were like that, at least in the US.
...in the same way that you'd pick software based on the license.
I don't pick software besed on the license, at least software I only intend to use, not distribute. In fact, as a user, I have the same respect for software licenses as I do for marijuana laws or prostitution laws or laws against gambling.
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Having been modded as redundant I feel need to elaborate
That was priceless! Thanks, you made my day! As to your point, I agree completely. What's wrong with pencils and rulers? The newest software will be out of date by the time these kids get out of college.
All a REAL artist needs is mud and a stick, and he can do without either in a pinch. You have to learn to see before you can learn to render.
-mcgrew
By the time your students reach the workforce, the packages will have gone through many revisions and what you're teaching them will have little bearing on what they'll have to know.
I'd say use both - the versions you have as well as open source. And tell the PHBs that since what you're teaching them will be sorely out of date by the time they're in a position to use these skills, not to waste money on commercial software again.
If you were a college teacher you wouldn't have these problems.
-mcgrew
Ah, but if the simulation were accurate enough, would the internal qualia of the being so simulated be different from ours?
Does a simulation of a hydrogen bomb, no matter how accurate, produce radiation? Will a flight simulator take you to Paris? Simulation is not reality.
How would we know?
This is what I worry about. We surely will, sooner or later, come up with a devoce that can fool humans into thinking it is sentient, and you'll have nuts calling for "machine rights".
More importantly, how would it?
That is my point entirely - it wouldn't. It couldn't.
If the physics of our world create the qualia of experience, then I think an accurate simulation would give rise to the same qualia.
Again, no matter how accurate you simulate an atomic blast, there is no radiation and nothing in the real world is destroyed.
First, if you have a bigger army and more nukes than anybody else you pretty much have jurisdiction anywhere you feel like it.
Second, this doesn't stop anybody from going to Mars, or outlaw trips to Mars. All it does in says that NASA can't use money Congress has appropriated to send humans to mars; ESA or a private American citizen with enough money could still legally go to Mars.
-mcgrew
Wow, lotta people flaming the guy. Does this mean TFA is flamebait?
From being on the inside, talking to multiple Microsoft people including execs... I think their downloadable video's were aided...
Are all you Microsoft execs "morons", as Bob says? That would tend to explain some of the things I find maddening about the software ("error [n] there is no message for this error"; the fact that no two menu items are ever in the same place when an "upgrade" is obtained; the fact that an OS "upgrade" makes your computer run slower; etc. etc. etc.)
I'm certainly OK with the end if both formats fail.
As am I; I don't own an HDTV and as I just shelled out a thousand bucks for a 42 inch flatscreen analog three years ago, I doubt it will matter much to me for quite some time.
My stake in this is that I hate Sony for installing a rootkit on my computer, and I don't like Microsoft very much, either (because I have to use their shitty buggy poorly designed software).
-mcgrew
Everyone misquotes that bible verse. Money isn't the root of all evil; money is simply a tool. The love of money is the root of all evil. The love of money is also the root of all bad software.
-mcgrew
Indeed, the CD is far from dead. The RIAA has been saying that MP3s are hurting CD sales for almost a decade, yet there is still a large space devoted to CDs at Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc. I don't see a lot of buggy whips at WalMart.
And his post was "insightful?" The RIAA lawyers must have mod points today!
-mcgrew
One can hardly be an engineer without also being a nerd. I guess it may be possible, but I never met a non-nerd engineer.
I was referring to EULAs; I'm afraid I should have been more clear about that, considering the context. Indeed, a CC license is only about modifications and distribution. I heartily support CC licenses, they're there to keep the mondyed interests from ripping you off, while the EULAs are there to facilitate the moneyed interests' ripping you off.
To paraphrase an oft misquoted bible verse, "the love of money is the root of all bad software."
One can NEVER read too much Tolkien!
A CC license has nothing to do with USING the software. Indeed, it is nothing like a driver's license. I was referring to the stupid EULAs, and the fact that some people think when you buy a music CD or digital book you are bound by some sort of licensing agreement. You're not. The whole thing is absurd.
In the art world they call it a "happy accident". I once typoed "USA Today" as "USA Toady", and once I discovered my error thought "hey! I like that!"
As slow as computers boot these days you would think they used tubes.
If you visit the Gamestop across the river, say "hi" to my daughter, she's manager there. Oddly enough her name's "mcgrew" too!
Thanks, if you liked that one you would have liked the diaries I used to keep at K5 a few years ago when I was on Paxil.
The Chinese have an old curse, "may you live in interesting times". I live an interesting life. I live in Springfield, which is even crazier and less believable than the cartoon Springfield (see Klutzo the Clown tasered to death). I updated that yesterday; according to the Springfield paper it appears that Klutzo may have died from being sat on by a fat man, rather than from the taser.
Oh, my roommate showed up at 6:30 this morning, drunk on her ass. I haven't seen her but once in the last couple of weeks, I think I'll take the afternoon off. If she's drunk enough maybe I'll get lucky!
I'll probably have another journal in a day or two. Thanks again for the kudos!
If we had half a dozen viable parties like most European nations, it would be a lot harder to bribe them. I agree that it would be better to have campaigns publically funded, with contributions outlawed. But that's even less likely than the two proposals I keep hawking:
- It would be a felony to contribute to more than one candidate in any given race
- It would be a felony to accept money from anyone who is not eligible to vote for that candidate. Bill Gates should not be able to contribute to John Shimkis, who is supposed to represent ME. Microsoft (nor the pipefitter's union) should be allowed to contribute to anyone whatever.
If votes mattered, more people would vote. I do, but I split my vote between the Greens and the Libertarians.He wants to read a book. That's free; or at least, so far it is. Give the corporate shitmoongers a few more years and libraries will be as outmoded as rooftop TV antennas.
I take it you didn't get the dark humor. Sony is a Japanese company whose US subsidiary "contributes" equally to Democrat and Republican candidates.
"Our" representatives are at the beck and call of foreign interests. They are not representing me; P2P, marijuana, prostitution, and gambling are all illegal, while Sony's rooring my computer garners no penalty whatever. Why didn't Sony's President go to prison for "harming a protected computer" like I would if I cracked their mainframes?
In trhe same vein you may hear me talking about the great American corporations BP, Shell, Chrysler, etc. All are foreign companies that legally bribe those who are supposed to represent me.
My ageing friend Ralph, a WWII veteran, wanted to declare bankrupcy but found that last year's "bankrupcy reform" that sailed through both wings of the Corporate Republicrat Party made it so that Ralph would have lost his house, the house that he owned free and clear. Before "reform" declaring bankrupcy would not cause one to become homeless. As it is he took out a "reverse mortgage" and it's his heirs who lose the house instead.
Obama voted for this travesty. His campaigns are heavily financed by the banks. I will NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances, for President nor for reelection as Senator. He is owned, a slave to the bankers.
Thought and feeling are chemical processes. A computer can only simulate them.
The DoJ also appears to buy into the RIAA's argument that making a file available on a P2P network constitutes copyright infringement.
It appears more like the RIAA has bought into the DoJ. We have the best politicians money can buy, unfortunately.
The only people who don't want their files shared are the ones who have radio to get the word out. This isn't about copyright infringement, it's about holding on to a monopoly. File sharers are music lovers who spend a lot more money on music than non file sharers. If the majors could keep indie music off of P2P like they keep it off the radio, they would embrace it.
How to rip from vinyl or tape (or your radio if you want the entire top-40)
Birth of a label-sanctioned pirate radio station Why is it that KSHE has played seven albums in their entirety, back to back, every Sunday for forty years with the RIAA labels' blessing? If you live in St. Louis you get seven free CDs every week!
-mcgrew
Does your public library have unlimited books on all topics you want?
Yes, there's this thing we have called an "interlibrary loan". You may have to wait a couple of weeks before the library gets it in, but you can pretty much get anything that's in print. I thought most libraries were like that, at least in the US.
I'm not making the claim that you need a driver's licens to read. I'm comparing a license for a book (or a "license to read") to a license to drive.
I'm afraid I may not have been clear enough.
But that's just me
No it's not. That pretty sums up my own political leanings, which is why I usually split my vote between the Greens and the Libertarinas.
...in the same way that you'd pick software based on the license.
I don't pick software besed on the license, at least software I only intend to use, not distribute. In fact, as a user, I have the same respect for software licenses as I do for marijuana laws or prostitution laws or laws against gambling.