the actual discussion should be covering calls between an American citizen and someone on a watch list who NEEDS his calls tapped
If someone NEEDS his calls tapped, law enforcement can get a warrant. That's how it's supposed to work here.
Stop fearing the terrorists; they want you to be afraid, but they're toothless. Bush's senseless war in Iraq has killed more Amerricans than all the terrorists this century. Meanwile ten times as many people die every year on American highways. IMO anybody who drives an SUV needs to be on a watch list and have his phone tapped; (s)he's far more of a danger to me than any Muslim terrorist.
And some of that "homeland security" money needs to go to guard rails!
Not only that, they already have immunity. The telcom can be taken to court, found guilty, ordered to pay a huge fine and its CEO sentenced to years in prison, then the President simply pardons them with the stroke of a pen. No fine, no imprisonment.
They snoop and tell your government about your stash of _blackjack-playing, postmoking hookers_ (I'm in the US). Wala - your government has "proof" you are engaged in illegal activity and busts down your door.
Although I agree with your comment, just putting in an email, slashdot comment, or even one of my journals can't get the FBI and DEA and whatever anti-prostitution agency to break down my door. Otherwise it seems they already would have, as although I'm no gambler, my slashdot journals often feature potsmoking and hookers. Maybe I should add some blackjack.
However, adultery is NOT against the law. Do you want your wife to find the email you sent to your girlfriend because Sweden seems to be as anti-freedom as America?
(OT but related; why is it legal for me to fuck my congressman's wife, but illegal for me to pay her for it?)
You don't think that "2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment." (which clearly covers non-tangible things) might be analogous?
Maybe, but I don't think so; I read that as "2. Plagairism".
Besides, when you use someone else's WiFi without permission, you are consuming slices of bandwidth-in-time where the owners might have been
But if it's an open access point with no password or encryption, it's obvious that the access point's administrator intended for it to be used freely. If he did it out of ignorance rather than on purpose that's his bad, not mine. If the sign on the store says "open" and the door's unlocked, he can't prosecute me for trespassing simply because I'm inside.
Side note: clearly, appropriating copyrighted music without right is "theft" under the definition you provided here
That's not exectly on topic but I don't see any definition of "theift" there that would pertain to copyright infringement. #2 clearly is about plagairism; taking credit for someone else's work. #1 is about property, which IP isn't, as you only have it for a "limited time". You don't own a copyrighted work. You can't steal something from me unless I own it. If I rent a car from Avis, it's not my car. If you steal it, you didn't steal it from me, Avis will be the one who calls the cops and if it's recovered, the cops will give it back to Avis.
Information doesn't want to be free, but whan it isn't neither are you.
Does this mean it consumes 2 GB of RAM to display "Hello World"???
Man! Was that joke ever funn[y] circa 1997...
And in 1987 it was "Does this mean it consumes 2 MB of RAM to display 'Hello World'???" and in in 2017 the joke will be upgraded to "Does this mean it consumes 2 TB of RAM to display 'Hello World'???"
Why does it seem that every time the hardware guys give us more machine, the software guys use every last bit of it to do exactly what the previous generation of machines did, only the previous generation did faster?
How about performance. It is a great milestone, it is, but if it is too slow it isn't ready for prime time.
With 6.3 megs of source my guess is the guy from Space Oddessy would say "My God! It's full of bloat!"
I would be incredibly surprised if it was speedy. I wonder how many of those lines are "NOP"? How many of them are comments? How many are actual, once working code that has been commented out?
Six point three million lines of code??? How is it possible for a language to need six point three milliion lines of code? Is this bloat, or are all six point thee million lines actually used?
The first iteration of Artificial Insanity (a smartassed Turing test program I wrote way back when I still gave a shit) was less than 16k of BASIC, but when I rewrote it with pretty much the same source code in Clipper for DOS, the executable was over 400k despite the fact that the source was still less than 16k.
The SOURCE for java is 6.3 megabytes? What is it written in, COBOL?
Actually a two dollar Chinese calculator really is a computer as well (albeit nowhere near as powerful as a scientific calculator); it is more powerful than ENIAC. Anything that's digital is in fact a computer. Your phone is a computer. Linux will run on a wristwatch.
But these days if it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor, and disk drives it isn't considered a "computer" even though technically, it is.
Come on people, for 'computer nerds' it's amazing how little logic you collectively display.
Ewe muss bee knew hear!
1 in 3 is a completely made up number for the benefit of the company trying to SELL PRODUCT
If they sell to the UK they can't just make it up out of whole cloth like they do here in the US, as they have false advertising laws that benefit your customers rather then your competitors. Of course, they could have fudged the numbers with bad methodology but they can't just pull them out of dark hairy orifices like we can here.
I, too, am annoyed with the Visa comercials where the Visa users zip through the line while the dead president-using guy gums up the works, especially when I'm standing in the checkout line behind some Visa user whose card is taking ten minutes (or at least seems like ten minutes) to authenticate. I wish we had the UK's "Advertising Standards Board."
Chevrolet Intrepid, the International Motor Sports Association GT Championship car, which raced from 1991 to 1993
William Stephenson, the Canadian World War II spymaster whose code name was Intrepid
Dodge Intrepid, the automobile
Intrepid Games, a satellite company of the computer game developer Lionhead Studios, now disbanded
The Lunar module of the 1969 Apollo 12 lunar landing mission
Several real and fictional ships named USS Intrepid
USS Intrepid (1798), was an armed ketch captured as a prize by the US Navy on 23 December 1803 and later exploded in the harbor of Tripoli 4 September 1804
USS Intrepid (1874), was an experimental steam torpedo ram commissioned 31 July 1874 and sold 9 May 1892
USS Intrepid (1904), was a training and receiving ship launched 8 October 1904 and sold 20 December 1921
USS Intrepid (CV-11), was an aircraft carrier launched 26 April 1943 and decommissioned 15 March 1974. Intrepid opened as a museum in New York City during August 1982 and is designated as a National Historic Landmark
The fictional Star Trek Starfleet includes a line of Intrepid-class starships
USS Bellerophon (NCC-74705) Transports Vice Admiral William Ross, Dr. Julian Bashir and Section 31 operative Luther Sloan from Deep Space Nine to Romulus in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges".
USS Voyager (NCC-74656)
Several ships named HMS Intrepid
The first Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line captured from the French in 1747.
The second Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line built in 1770.
The sixth Intrepid was an Apollo class cruiser which was sunk as a blockship in the Zeebrugge raid.
The seventh Intrepid, was an I class destroyer launched in 1936, that served in World War II and was sunk by air attack in 1943.
The eighth Intrepid (L11), launched 1964, was a landing platform dock that served in the Falklands War.
An American Civil War military balloon aircraft named Intrepid (balloon aircraft)
Union of Border Worlds ship BWS Intrepid in Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom
US-22 America's Cup Intrepid (yacht)
The Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum in Manhattan
Intrepid Ibex, the codename for the 8.10 (October 2008) in-development release of the Ubuntu Linux operating system
Intrepid Travel, Australia based small group adventure company.
Intrepid Kart, an Italian kart chassis manufacturer
I guess they could have called it the "dauntless", but I'm not sure why anyone would give a supercomputer either name. A ship, sure, but you would think they would use a name that was a synonym for "speedy" for a supercomputer, not "fearless".
Computer scientists building the monstrosity admit that it still isn't powerful enough to run VISTA with all the bells and whistles turned on.
George Broussard says that when the next generation of this machine reaches the desktop, Duke Nukem 4ever will be released. "Really", he said, "The game's been finished for over five years now. We're just waiting for a powerful enough computer to play it on."
Sources say that besides computitng power, DNF is waiting for the holographic display. The The US Department of Energy's (DoE) high performance computing system lacks a holographic display.
Gamers were reportedly disappointed in the news, although most said the price of the DoE's new computer wouldn't faze them. "After all" one said, "you have to have a decent machine to play any modern game!"
steal
Audio Help/stil/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[steel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, verb, stole, stolen, stealing, noun -verb (used with object) 1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch. 2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment. 3. to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance: He stole my girlfriend. 4. to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or quietly; smuggle (usually fol. by away, from, in, into, etc.): They stole the bicycle into the bedroom to surprise the child. 5. Baseball. (of a base runner) to gain (a base) without the help of a walk or batted ball, as by running to it during the delivery of a pitch. 6. Games. to gain (a point, advantage, etc.) by strategy, chance, or luck. 7. to gain or seize more than one's share of attention in, as by giving a superior performance: The comedian stole the show. -verb (used without object) 8. to commit or practice theft. 9. to move, go, or come secretly, quietly, or unobserved: She stole out of the house at midnight. 10. to pass, happen, etc., imperceptibly, gently, or gradually: The years steal by. 11. Baseball. (of a base runner) to advance a base without the help of a walk or batted ball. -noun 12. Informal. an act of stealing; theft. 13. Informal. the thing stolen; booty. 14. Informal. something acquired at a cost far below its real value; bargain: This dress is a steal at $40. 15. Baseball. the act of advancing a base by stealing. --Idiom16. steal someone's thunder, to appropriate or use another's idea, plan, words, etc.
Accessing a hotspot without authorization may be a crime, but so is smoking pot. Is smoking marijuana "thieft"?
You are correct, TFS is wrong. If I steal your truck you don't have access to your truck. If I hide in its bed and ride downtown with you without your knowledge, it may be wrong and it may be illegal but I didn't steal anything.
Who modded this "insightful"??? Where's the insight?
Nuclear is the best option.
Sorry, dude, you're wrong. Nuclear has a glaring problem: radioactive waste. Solve that and I'll agree.
Fusion is the answer - solar and wind are the best options (solar power is fusion power, wind power is solar power). Zero pollution, and costs keep falling while efficiency keeps rising. A close third would be hydroelectric but that has its own environmental problems.
Equating it with perpetual motion shows YOUR ignorance.
Offtopic straw man. Nobody equated nuclear with perpetual motion.
I'm curious how Nevada feels about this, as well as the Obama campaign
I'm curious how Illinois (iinm the most nuclear state in the union) feels about this, as well as the Barr campaign, as well as the various Greeen candidates.
I think that thinking this is the first time the US has used these tactics in the past 40 years is a little naive.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is something I personally approve of, and it has to go both ways. Show me some evidence that torture and holding without trial has been used by previous administrations and I wil be just as harsh to them as I am to this administration.
Who was being kept before 9/11?
Without proof to the contrary I'd have to say "nobody".
Wouldn't a date of 2005 make more sense, as it would be the first year of his second term?
Not really. He'd been President for four years. If he'd been going beyond what the manual said during his first term he'd want it to look as legal as possible on the chance he might not get reelected.
Revoking habeas corpus is hardly comparable to not being able to fill your gas tank. AFAIK nobody ever said that you have the right to a full tank (but then again you may well have that right).
Truman took over as president in 1945 after being VP for only 82 days (I checked wikipedia) - he can take heat for dropping the bomb, but not for internment camps and rationing.
My mistake. It would have been Franklin Roosevelt who was responsible for the Japanese interment. Kind of hard to bring him to justice as he died in office. However, Truman should have released the internees. Wrong is wrong. And what's worse they had until 1972 to bring him to justice!
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the actual discussion should be covering calls between an American citizen and someone on a watch list who NEEDS his calls tapped
If someone NEEDS his calls tapped, law enforcement can get a warrant. That's how it's supposed to work here.
Stop fearing the terrorists; they want you to be afraid, but they're toothless. Bush's senseless war in Iraq has killed more Amerricans than all the terrorists this century. Meanwile ten times as many people die every year on American highways. IMO anybody who drives an SUV needs to be on a watch list and have his phone tapped; (s)he's far more of a danger to me than any Muslim terrorist.
And some of that "homeland security" money needs to go to guard rails!
Not only that, they already have immunity. The telcom can be taken to court, found guilty, ordered to pay a huge fine and its CEO sentenced to years in prison, then the President simply pardons them with the stroke of a pen. No fine, no imprisonment.
Ford pardoned Nixon.
Only terrorists have anything to fear from this! Are you a terrorist?
Woodie Guthrie's guitar read "This machine kills fascists". So yes, as I own two guitars and a bass, I am in fact a a terrorist.
Wala? It's "voila" you uncultured idiot
It is? Wow, learn something new every day. Am I cultured now, or do I need more yeast?
They snoop and tell your government about your stash of _blackjack-playing, postmoking hookers_ (I'm in the US). Wala - your government has "proof" you are engaged in illegal activity and busts down your door.
Although I agree with your comment, just putting in an email, slashdot comment, or even one of my journals can't get the FBI and DEA and whatever anti-prostitution agency to break down my door. Otherwise it seems they already would have, as although I'm no gambler, my slashdot journals often feature potsmoking and hookers. Maybe I should add some blackjack.
However, adultery is NOT against the law. Do you want your wife to find the email you sent to your girlfriend because Sweden seems to be as anti-freedom as America?
(OT but related; why is it legal for me to fuck my congressman's wife, but illegal for me to pay her for it?)
Ok, I'll admit it; that typo was accidental. I wish it was on purpose ;)
Now that it's open-source and Apple is UNIX-like you can do Java on Mac yourself.
You don't think that "2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment." (which clearly covers non-tangible things) might be analogous?
Maybe, but I don't think so; I read that as "2. Plagairism".
Besides, when you use someone else's WiFi without permission, you are consuming slices of bandwidth-in-time where the owners might have been
But if it's an open access point with no password or encryption, it's obvious that the access point's administrator intended for it to be used freely. If he did it out of ignorance rather than on purpose that's his bad, not mine. If the sign on the store says "open" and the door's unlocked, he can't prosecute me for trespassing simply because I'm inside.
Side note: clearly, appropriating copyrighted music without right is "theft" under the definition you provided here
That's not exectly on topic but I don't see any definition of "theift" there that would pertain to copyright infringement. #2 clearly is about plagairism; taking credit for someone else's work. #1 is about property, which IP isn't, as you only have it for a "limited time". You don't own a copyrighted work. You can't steal something from me unless I own it. If I rent a car from Avis, it's not my car. If you steal it, you didn't steal it from me, Avis will be the one who calls the cops and if it's recovered, the cops will give it back to Avis.
Information doesn't want to be free, but whan it isn't neither are you.
Why does it seem that every time the hardware guys give us more machine, the software guys use every last bit of it to do exactly what the previous generation of machines did, only the previous generation did faster?
How about performance. It is a great milestone, it is, but if it is too slow it isn't ready for prime time.
With 6.3 megs of source my guess is the guy from Space Oddessy would say "My God! It's full of bloat!"
I would be incredibly surprised if it was speedy. I wonder how many of those lines are "NOP"? How many of them are comments? How many are actual, once working code that has been commented out?
Six point three million lines of code??? How is it possible for a language to need six point three milliion lines of code? Is this bloat, or are all six point thee million lines actually used?
The first iteration of Artificial Insanity (a smartassed Turing test program I wrote way back when I still gave a shit) was less than 16k of BASIC, but when I rewrote it with pretty much the same source code in Clipper for DOS, the executable was over 400k despite the fact that the source was still less than 16k.
The SOURCE for java is 6.3 megabytes? What is it written in, COBOL?
Actually a two dollar Chinese calculator really is a computer as well (albeit nowhere near as powerful as a scientific calculator); it is more powerful than ENIAC. Anything that's digital is in fact a computer. Your phone is a computer. Linux will run on a wristwatch.
But these days if it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor, and disk drives it isn't considered a "computer" even though technically, it is.
Come on people, for 'computer nerds' it's amazing how little logic you collectively display.
Ewe muss bee knew hear!
1 in 3 is a completely made up number for the benefit of the company trying to SELL PRODUCT
If they sell to the UK they can't just make it up out of whole cloth like they do here in the US, as they have false advertising laws that benefit your customers rather then your competitors. Of course, they could have fudged the numbers with bad methodology but they can't just pull them out of dark hairy orifices like we can here.
I, too, am annoyed with the Visa comercials where the Visa users zip through the line while the dead president-using guy gums up the works, especially when I'm standing in the checkout line behind some Visa user whose card is taking ten minutes (or at least seems like ten minutes) to authenticate. I wish we had the UK's "Advertising Standards Board."
If you're protecting the nation's energy, why not set and example and use less of it?
Because the less energy there is, the more the DoE is needed. They have to protect their cushy jobs, you know.
Intrepid can refer to:
- Chevrolet Intrepid, the International Motor Sports Association GT Championship car, which raced from 1991 to 1993
- William Stephenson, the Canadian World War II spymaster whose code name was Intrepid
- Dodge Intrepid, the automobile
- Intrepid Games, a satellite company of the computer game developer Lionhead Studios, now disbanded
- The Lunar module of the 1969 Apollo 12 lunar landing mission
- Several real and fictional ships named USS Intrepid
- USS Intrepid (1798), was an armed ketch captured as a prize by the US Navy on 23 December 1803 and later exploded in the harbor of Tripoli 4 September 1804
- USS Intrepid (1874), was an experimental steam torpedo ram commissioned 31 July 1874 and sold 9 May 1892
- USS Intrepid (1904), was a training and receiving ship launched 8 October 1904 and sold 20 December 1921
- USS Intrepid (CV-11), was an aircraft carrier launched 26 April 1943 and decommissioned 15 March 1974. Intrepid opened as a museum in New York City during August 1982 and is designated as a National Historic Landmark
- The fictional Star Trek Starfleet includes a line of Intrepid-class starships
- USS Bellerophon (NCC-74705) Transports Vice Admiral William Ross, Dr. Julian Bashir and Section 31 operative Luther Sloan from Deep Space Nine to Romulus in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges".
- USS Voyager (NCC-74656)
- Several ships named HMS Intrepid
- The first Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line captured from the French in 1747.
- The second Intrepid was a third rate ship of the line built in 1770.
- The sixth Intrepid was an Apollo class cruiser which was sunk as a blockship in the Zeebrugge raid.
- The seventh Intrepid, was an I class destroyer launched in 1936, that served in World War II and was sunk by air attack in 1943.
- The eighth Intrepid (L11), launched 1964, was a landing platform dock that served in the Falklands War.
- An American Civil War military balloon aircraft named Intrepid (balloon aircraft)
- Union of Border Worlds ship BWS Intrepid in Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom
- US-22 America's Cup Intrepid (yacht)
- The Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum in Manhattan
- Intrepid Ibex, the codename for the 8.10 (October 2008) in-development release of the Ubuntu Linux operating system
- Intrepid Travel, Australia based small group adventure company.
- Intrepid Kart, an Italian kart chassis manufacturer
I guess they could have called it the "dauntless", but I'm not sure why anyone would give a supercomputer either name. A ship, sure, but you would think they would use a name that was a synonym for "speedy" for a supercomputer, not "fearless".Computer scientists building the monstrosity admit that it still isn't powerful enough to run VISTA with all the bells and whistles turned on.
George Broussard says that when the next generation of this machine reaches the desktop, Duke Nukem 4ever will be released. "Really", he said, "The game's been finished for over five years now. We're just waiting for a powerful enough computer to play it on."
Sources say that besides computitng power, DNF is waiting for the holographic display. The The US Department of Energy's (DoE) high performance computing system lacks a holographic display.
Gamers were reportedly disappointed in the news, although most said the price of the DoE's new computer wouldn't faze them. "After all" one said, "you have to have a decent machine to play any modern game!"
Sometimes I think these article summaries are intentionally worded to get slashdotters cranked up.
YHBT.
HAND.
Routers/Access Points are computing devices more sophisticated than the computers of the early 80s
A musical Hallmark card has more computing power than an early mainframe. So what's your point? Is your pocket calculator a computer?
To draw an analogy, it isn't just leaving your front door unlocked, it's leaving it unlocked and putting up a sign that says "Please come in!".
More like a store with a sign that says "open".
Like the store, if the hotspot is open nobody should be able to say you are trespassing if you then enter.
Accessing a hotspot without authorization may be a crime, but so is smoking pot. Is smoking marijuana "thieft"?
You are correct, TFS is wrong. If I steal your truck you don't have access to your truck. If I hide in its bed and ride downtown with you without your knowledge, it may be wrong and it may be illegal but I didn't steal anything.
Who modded this "insightful"??? Where's the insight?
Nuclear is the best option.
Sorry, dude, you're wrong. Nuclear has a glaring problem: radioactive waste. Solve that and I'll agree.
Fusion is the answer - solar and wind are the best options (solar power is fusion power, wind power is solar power). Zero pollution, and costs keep falling while efficiency keeps rising. A close third would be hydroelectric but that has its own environmental problems.
Equating it with perpetual motion shows YOUR ignorance.
Offtopic straw man. Nobody equated nuclear with perpetual motion.
Hate makes you stupid.
Offtopic and unproven.
Your schitzophrenic troll is getting old. Goodbye.
I'm curious how Nevada feels about this, as well as the Obama campaign
I'm curious how Illinois (iinm the most nuclear state in the union) feels about this, as well as the Barr campaign, as well as the various Greeen candidates.
Neither McCain nor Obama will get my vote.
So THAT'S where all my bits went! I've been looking for them.
I think that thinking this is the first time the US has used these tactics in the past 40 years is a little naive.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is something I personally approve of, and it has to go both ways. Show me some evidence that torture and holding without trial has been used by previous administrations and I wil be just as harsh to them as I am to this administration.
Who was being kept before 9/11?
Without proof to the contrary I'd have to say "nobody".
Wouldn't a date of 2005 make more sense, as it would be the first year of his second term?
Not really. He'd been President for four years. If he'd been going beyond what the manual said during his first term he'd want it to look as legal as possible on the chance he might not get reelected.
Revoking habeas corpus is hardly comparable to not being able to fill your gas tank. AFAIK nobody ever said that you have the right to a full tank (but then again you may well have that right).
Truman took over as president in 1945 after being VP for only 82 days (I checked wikipedia) - he can take heat for dropping the bomb, but not for internment camps and rationing.
My mistake. It would have been Franklin Roosevelt who was responsible for the Japanese interment. Kind of hard to bring him to justice as he died in office. However, Truman should have released the internees. Wrong is wrong. And what's worse they had until 1972 to bring him to justice!