Truth does matter, unfortunately many people don't look at the truth in these cases. They've been spoon fed by Uncle Sam for too long.
If you value truth, the PLEASE check some things out. Gateway drugs are a total myth. Check the research and you'll see that it is unsupported. If someone uses pot and then starts using other drugs, it's not the pot that causes it. The argument is suspiciously like the slippery slope fallacy. In truth, the gateway drug myth was conjured up by people who wanted to make hemp illegal, for political or monetary gain.
The whole history of the criminalization of drugs in the US is a fascinating subject. Please try to read some of it sometime.
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Bzzzt! You're wrong.
By and large, the reason pot is illegal is because 1) the perception was that it was a "black" drug and there was a lot of stupid hysteria about black people smoking weed and getting out of control, 2) Hearst ran a lot of blatantly false stories in his newspapers about the evil weed, turning opinion even further, and 3) political lobbying by companies that had developed ways to make paper from wood pulp.
Please learn your history, and don't fool yourself that you get less fucked up on alcohol than you can on pot. Public protection didn't have anything to do with it.
P.S. I don't smoke pot. Not everyone who supports legalization wants to use hemp for smoking.
Drugs became illegal in the US because of these exact types of stupid legislators. Now, it's part of our culture. Walk down the street and you can find zillions of people who actually believe that pot kills.
Same with video games. Once they ban them, it's easy to "educate" people with PR campaigns. Eventually, hardly anyone will remember the days when a 10 year old could play space invaders. Zillions of people will actually believe that videogames cause violence. Truth won't matter. Science won't matter. Research won't matter. They will believe it because they don't think about it, and are afraid to take a minority stand.
I've got a 6 year old 486/33 Thinkpad running RedHat 4.0 that's been my printer server for the last 4 years. It will be retired in a couple months (donated to Goodwill Computers in Austin TX) to be replaced by a state of the art Pentium/133, 32M RAM, 13.5 GIG IDE disk, running Debian. I expect that machine in that configuration to provide completely satisfactory service for the next 6-8 years as a printer server, file server, and eventually network firewall. Once it becomes a firewall, I'll probably put OpenBSD on it.
To be truthful, my two major apps are vi and g++, and that machine was NEVER inadequate for those tasks. The only reason that I have a superfast Celery 300A was to run Jane's USAF.
To make even better use of old hardware, that P/133 machine won't have a monitor. It's going to be configured with a serial line console, and my Compudyne 25Mhz 386SX laptop running MS-DOG and a term program will sit right on top of it. I bought it in 1992. With a bit of creative thinking, I finally found a new use for that thing.
If you got caught in the trap on this link and you actually modded someone up, you can post a bogus message here in this thread, as an AC even. Once you make the post, your moderation will be UNDONE. No sense in giving the guy any more points by clicking on his link.
Your reply is logically unsound, because it is a strawman. I was not considering personal problems. I was considering health and life threatening problems, such as war, famine, disease, desposism, crime, injustice, racism, and death.
Tell them you'll agree not to wear sandals if they ease up on the other restrictions. Realize that some people have REALLY ugly feet, and you probably don't want to see them anyway.
We will *never* work out our problems on this rock. We can try, but the solution will follow an asymptotic curve. Therefore, your philosophy would forever keep us in "high school", insisting that we pass our SAT exam without a single error before we would be allowed admittance to the university of the universe.
I'm sorry, but there's two problems with this: First, knowlege is expanded through firsthand exploration of our environment, not through learning by rote under the tutelage of a severe and overdemanding schoolmistress. Second, space exploration pays dividends far above their cost. Expansion of knowlege helps every person, and that bends our trajectory towards that axis of perfection much faster than a self-imposed sequestering of humanity within the monestary we call Earth.
Thank you for pointing that out. As a Visigoth, I felt a bit slighted by being omitted from the protection of Echelon. Can't be too careful with all these Romans milling about.
Quit writing all this stuff. Someone has to find all of it and change it every time we switch allies. Be considerate of your neighbors who work in the Ministry of Truth! Thanks. This has been a public service "suggestion" from the Large Male Sibling.
Someone marked me as a troll? Idiot. That's actually how I think.
Some people hate you if you disagree with their stupidity that everything must be recycled. It's too hard to come up with an argument, but it's easy to click a little checkbox and mod me down. Cowardly.
Your reducto ad adsurdum argument falls flat. While I truly love a good steak far far more than I love a good salad, one must stick to valid arguments to make the case for your favorite dinner...
Plastic seepage: Not an expert on degradation of plastic, but is it really that horrible? You might have a point there, but without some data I can't decide either way.
Incineration: This is the wrong thing to do. Our big problem now is the buildup of CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere. Burning plastic makes that problem even worse. My solution of landfilling plastic tries to fix that by putting the carbon that came from the ground back into the ground.
I use plastic for everything I can, and I throw it away when I'm done with it.
This is NOT a troll. Here's my reasoning, step by step:
1) Plastic is made from oil.
2) We use oil to make plastic, and to burn.
3) Oil that is not used to make plastic will be burned. The more oil made into plastic, the less will be burned.
3) burning oil puts carbon into the air.
4) throwing plastic into landfills puts carbon into the ground.
5) The carbon came out of the ground to begin with.
6) Therefore, throwing away plastic helps the environment.
other points:
a) landfill space objection: this isn't an environmental objection, it's an economic one. Cities pay money to landfill stuff. Environmentally, mother nature will treat a pile of plastic covered with dirt as just another hill. Yawn.
b) using paper: This will remove carbon from the air, but unless you throw the paper away after you use it, you risk putting those carbons back into the air. Paper is fine if you don't recycle it.
c) aluminum. Use it, recycle it. Standard wisdom applies to that.
The agenda might be dead in a year, but eventually, we're going to really want these tiny computers to run Linux and all our desktop software, including the compiler.
I don't know about you, but my life would be greatly improved if I could pack up a tiny palm-like device, a head mounted display, and a little keyboard, go off to the beach, and get a day's work done there. I could do that now with a laptop and a stack of batteries, but there's this small problem of posture. Even a laptop requires a chair and a desk of some kind, and it's hard to get an even tan unless you're laying down.
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But, does that make the original poster a troll? Perhaps you should RTFM and find out what a troll is and how that's different than offtopic?
No chemo, no radiation, no surgery, no intervention possible. This cancer WILL kill Microsoft eventually.
That's my favorite Carl Sagan quote.
Everybody, read some of his books. Even though he's dead for a couple years now, Alex C. says that he could use the money!
That's no troll. It's the truth. I too am mystified. Perhaps the Men In Black want to keep it that way.
Why not skip all the dramatics and put it into a subduction zone at the bottom of the ocean?
People always miss the obvious solution.
So what? Quit using gifs and start using PNG.
Truth does matter, unfortunately many people don't look at the truth in these cases. They've been spoon fed by Uncle Sam for too long.
If you value truth, the PLEASE check some things out. Gateway drugs are a total myth. Check the research and you'll see that it is unsupported. If someone uses pot and then starts using other drugs, it's not the pot that causes it. The argument is suspiciously like the slippery slope fallacy. In truth, the gateway drug myth was conjured up by people who wanted to make hemp illegal, for political or monetary gain.
The whole history of the criminalization of drugs in the US is a fascinating subject. Please try to read some of it sometime.
Bzzzt! You're wrong.
By and large, the reason pot is illegal is because 1) the perception was that it was a "black" drug and there was a lot of stupid hysteria about black people smoking weed and getting out of control, 2) Hearst ran a lot of blatantly false stories in his newspapers about the evil weed, turning opinion even further, and 3) political lobbying by companies that had developed ways to make paper from wood pulp.
Please learn your history, and don't fool yourself that you get less fucked up on alcohol than you can on pot. Public protection didn't have anything to do with it.
P.S. I don't smoke pot. Not everyone who supports legalization wants to use hemp for smoking.
Run you Samba box. Run VMWare on top of the Samba box. Run Windows NT inside VMWare. Run a virus scanner inside Windows NT.
oops, I guess if you did that you could just run NT on the server!
Drugs became illegal in the US because of these exact types of stupid legislators. Now, it's part of our culture. Walk down the street and you can find zillions of people who actually believe that pot kills.
Same with video games. Once they ban them, it's easy to "educate" people with PR campaigns. Eventually, hardly anyone will remember the days when a 10 year old could play space invaders. Zillions of people will actually believe that videogames cause violence. Truth won't matter. Science won't matter. Research won't matter. They will believe it because they don't think about it, and are afraid to take a minority stand.
I've got a 6 year old 486/33 Thinkpad running RedHat 4.0 that's been my printer server for the last 4 years. It will be retired in a couple months (donated to Goodwill Computers in Austin TX) to be replaced by a state of the art Pentium/133, 32M RAM, 13.5 GIG IDE disk, running Debian. I expect that machine in that configuration to provide completely satisfactory service for the next 6-8 years as a printer server, file server, and eventually network firewall. Once it becomes a firewall, I'll probably put OpenBSD on it.
To be truthful, my two major apps are vi and g++, and that machine was NEVER inadequate for those tasks. The only reason that I have a superfast Celery 300A was to run Jane's USAF.
To make even better use of old hardware, that P/133 machine won't have a monitor. It's going to be configured with a serial line console, and my Compudyne 25Mhz 386SX laptop running MS-DOG and a term program will sit right on top of it. I bought it in 1992. With a bit of creative thinking, I finally found a new use for that thing.
Attrition is dead. Maybe /. could become the new home for orphaned defacements.
Have you actually tried this? If you had you'd know that the frog jumps out if the water is too hot. The boiling frog story is an urban legend.
If you got caught in the trap on this link and you actually modded someone up, you can post a bogus message here in this thread, as an AC even. Once you make the post, your moderation will be UNDONE. No sense in giving the guy any more points by clicking on his link.
Your reply is logically unsound, because it is a strawman. I was not considering personal problems. I was considering health and life threatening problems, such as war, famine, disease, desposism, crime, injustice, racism, and death.
Tell them you'll agree not to wear sandals if they ease up on the other restrictions. Realize that some people have REALLY ugly feet, and you probably don't want to see them anyway.
Nope, he's on viagra!
We will *never* work out our problems on this rock. We can try, but the solution will follow an asymptotic curve. Therefore, your philosophy would forever keep us in "high school", insisting that we pass our SAT exam without a single error before we would be allowed admittance to the university of the universe.
I'm sorry, but there's two problems with this: First, knowlege is expanded through firsthand exploration of our environment, not through learning by rote under the tutelage of a severe and overdemanding schoolmistress. Second, space exploration pays dividends far above their cost. Expansion of knowlege helps every person, and that bends our trajectory towards that axis of perfection much faster than a self-imposed sequestering of humanity within the monestary we call Earth.
Thank you for pointing that out. As a Visigoth, I felt a bit slighted by being omitted from the protection of Echelon. Can't be too careful with all these Romans milling about.
Quit writing all this stuff. Someone has to find all of it and change it every time we switch allies. Be considerate of your neighbors who work in the Ministry of Truth! Thanks. This has been a public service "suggestion" from the Large Male Sibling.
Someone marked me as a troll? Idiot. That's actually how I think.
Some people hate you if you disagree with their stupidity that everything must be recycled. It's too hard to come up with an argument, but it's easy to click a little checkbox and mod me down. Cowardly.
Your reducto ad adsurdum argument falls flat. While I truly love a good steak far far more than I love a good salad, one must stick to valid arguments to make the case for your favorite dinner...
Counterpoints:
Plastic seepage: Not an expert on degradation of plastic, but is it really that horrible? You might have a point there, but without some data I can't decide either way.
Incineration: This is the wrong thing to do. Our big problem now is the buildup of CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere. Burning plastic makes that problem even worse. My solution of landfilling plastic tries to fix that by putting the carbon that came from the ground back into the ground.
I use plastic for everything I can, and I throw it away when I'm done with it.
This is NOT a troll. Here's my reasoning, step by step:
1) Plastic is made from oil.
2) We use oil to make plastic, and to burn.
3) Oil that is not used to make plastic will be burned. The more oil made into plastic, the less will be burned.
3) burning oil puts carbon into the air.
4) throwing plastic into landfills puts carbon into the ground.
5) The carbon came out of the ground to begin with.
6) Therefore, throwing away plastic helps the environment.
other points:
a) landfill space objection: this isn't an environmental objection, it's an economic one. Cities pay money to landfill stuff. Environmentally, mother nature will treat a pile of plastic covered with dirt as just another hill. Yawn.
b) using paper: This will remove carbon from the air, but unless you throw the paper away after you use it, you risk putting those carbons back into the air. Paper is fine if you don't recycle it.
c) aluminum. Use it, recycle it. Standard wisdom applies to that.
The agenda might be dead in a year, but eventually, we're going to really want these tiny computers to run Linux and all our desktop software, including the compiler.
I don't know about you, but my life would be greatly improved if I could pack up a tiny palm-like device, a head mounted display, and a little keyboard, go off to the beach, and get a day's work done there. I could do that now with a laptop and a stack of batteries, but there's this small problem of posture. Even a laptop requires a chair and a desk of some kind, and it's hard to get an even tan unless you're laying down.