Riiiiiiight. Because that really works with the LGPL; sure, they could rewrite, something tells me reimplementing open-source projects that are under semi-restrictive licenses isn't exactly something they'll bother to do. Microsoft hates the GPL, and for good reason--they've never really had an issue with the other, more free software licenses.
And your fearmongering reasoning kind of fails to answer why they're publishing more specs on interoperability with Windows.
Except that that's not the problem with PHP. PHP encourages horrible practices and is very easy to write insecure code. It takes a lot of experience to regularly write secure, correct code in PHP.
"Cheap and easy" is not a compliment, with a language like PHP. Saying it "delivers what they need" ignores that they don't know what they need more often than not.
Microsoft can't win with zealots like you. Either they're evil because they hate OSS or they should be treated like scum when they try to open a hand toward OSS.
Alice is a wonderfully impressive tool. Once I get him a computer that can run it, I'm going to teach it to my brother (because having him do it on my machine is a little difficult when I'm at school). It seems like a brilliant introduction to computer programming and the thinking behind software design.
Sure, CodeIgniter has a query framework. Unfortunately, that involves using the CodeIgniter framework. I'll pass. (I like the MVC paradigm; I don't like the retarded way the publicly available frameworks handle it.)
On the other hand, PDO is built into PHP (and abstracts away your database nicely, for what it's worth) and also takes advantage of the efficiency improvements of your database engine.
(PDO also will Do The Right Thing when not on a database with support for prepared statements, but that doesn't make them any less vital for other tools, or even when you're writing SQL code directly.)
I think the GP is suggesting that there is rarely or never a business case or using Windows. I am not saying he is right, but that his argument need not be interpreted as zealotry.
Sorry, but saying that there's never a business case for using Windows is zealotry.
Assorted points that indicate that you do not know what you're talking about--
-Why are you installing software that could corrupt the registry on your server machines? Sounds like incompetence to me.
-Do you really mean to say that OS X has better server management controls than Windows? Really? Because if you are, I would like to know what mystery world you live in where "bad" became "good."
-Linux does not have anything that approaches ASP.NET in terms of functionality, ease of programming, and feature completeness. Java Server Pages are horrible. Mono (who I do some work for) is only at ASP.NET 2. PHP/Python/Ruby? Please.
-The Windows command line is poor, yes--but if you're working according to the platform's paradigm, that weakness is avoided because you don't use it. Besides, cygwin works fine if you insist on it. (I've started to use PowerShell, which is also quite nice.)
-SQL Server is significantly superior to MySQL, faster than PostgreSQL, and for most businesses is cheaper than Oracle.
I like PHP and I think you're crazy. Start with relatively clean languages--these days I lean toward C# as a starting-language-of-choice due to its astonishingly clean design, but for those who have knee-jerk fears of Microsoft, Python's fine too--and then move to horrible Frankensteins like PHP later.
It's amazing how much of a cunt you are. Of course you won't go see the movie to see how fucking wrong you are, so there's no chance of an "I was wrong," but hey. Keep looking down your nose at everybody else!
Gee, really? OK, so let's see what I've seen that was released this year.
Cloverleaf In Bruges The Lost Diary of the Dead The Unforeseen Sleepwalking Chapter 27 American Zombie Run, Fat Boy, Run Leatherheads Deception Get Smart WALL-E Wanted Hancock Gonzo: The Life and Work of Dr. Hunter S. Thompon The Dark Knight
Without question, TDK is the best movie I've seen in that list. So, you sniveling little pissrag, what movies have been released in 2008 that are superior?
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I fundamentally believe proprietary software is both unfair and stupid.
Fortunately for people who write code and don't want to work for a megacorp, others who respect other people's rights have an edge over you. :)
I just get Intel laptops with Centrino...works perfectly.
Whoops, I did. My bad.
Riiiiiiight. Because that really works with the LGPL; sure, they could rewrite, something tells me reimplementing open-source projects that are under semi-restrictive licenses isn't exactly something they'll bother to do. Microsoft hates the GPL, and for good reason--they've never really had an issue with the other, more free software licenses.
And your fearmongering reasoning kind of fails to answer why they're publishing more specs on interoperability with Windows.
Except that that's not the problem with PHP. PHP encourages horrible practices and is very easy to write insecure code. It takes a lot of experience to regularly write secure, correct code in PHP.
"Cheap and easy" is not a compliment, with a language like PHP. Saying it "delivers what they need" ignores that they don't know what they need more often than not.
The end users have choice. Linux shouldn't be the only choice, in the same way that Windows shouldn't be the only choice.
Are you really allowed to say that? Won't you be mobbed by slashbots with mod points?
The fact that PHP is so common is a sad, sad state of affairs.
And I'm saying that as somebody who likes PHP.
Microsoft can't win with zealots like you. Either they're evil because they hate OSS or they should be treated like scum when they try to open a hand toward OSS.
Amazing.
(C# = MS Java)
Only vastly improved, or did you forget that part? C# is a pleasure to use where Java is a pain.
Not going to tell you that you owe it to anyone to watch it, but you'd get something good out of it.
Alice is a wonderfully impressive tool. Once I get him a computer that can run it, I'm going to teach it to my brother (because having him do it on my machine is a little difficult when I'm at school). It seems like a brilliant introduction to computer programming and the thinking behind software design.
You do know that twitter is Erris, and just tried to make one of the people who say "hey, he's sockpuppeting" look bad, right?
Haven't used them? LOL. 'Kay, buddy.
Sure, CodeIgniter has a query framework. Unfortunately, that involves using the CodeIgniter framework. I'll pass. (I like the MVC paradigm; I don't like the retarded way the publicly available frameworks handle it.)
On the other hand, PDO is built into PHP (and abstracts away your database nicely, for what it's worth) and also takes advantage of the efficiency improvements of your database engine.
(PDO also will Do The Right Thing when not on a database with support for prepared statements, but that doesn't make them any less vital for other tools, or even when you're writing SQL code directly.)
The alternatives, at least in PHP (which is the primary way just about everyone uses MySQL) are shitful at best.
Um. That one alone is good enough reason to use them.
It's not "important." It's fucking vital.
I think the GP is suggesting that there is rarely or never a business case or using Windows. I am not saying he is right, but that his argument need not be interpreted as zealotry.
Sorry, but saying that there's never a business case for using Windows is zealotry.
Assorted points that indicate that you do not know what you're talking about--
-Why are you installing software that could corrupt the registry on your server machines? Sounds like incompetence to me.
-Do you really mean to say that OS X has better server management controls than Windows? Really? Because if you are, I would like to know what mystery world you live in where "bad" became "good."
-Linux does not have anything that approaches ASP.NET in terms of functionality, ease of programming, and feature completeness. Java Server Pages are horrible. Mono (who I do some work for) is only at ASP.NET 2. PHP/Python/Ruby? Please.
-The Windows command line is poor, yes--but if you're working according to the platform's paradigm, that weakness is avoided because you don't use it. Besides, cygwin works fine if you insist on it. (I've started to use PowerShell, which is also quite nice.)
-SQL Server is significantly superior to MySQL, faster than PostgreSQL, and for most businesses is cheaper than Oracle.
The only one smoking anything here is you.
Prepared statements are also a great way to prevent SQL injection (at least when you're working in PHP); removing them is kind of dangerous.
I like PHP and I think you're crazy. Start with relatively clean languages--these days I lean toward C# as a starting-language-of-choice due to its astonishingly clean design, but for those who have knee-jerk fears of Microsoft, Python's fine too--and then move to horrible Frankensteins like PHP later.
No, the people I normally go seeing movies with just weren't around when I wanted to see Iron Man. :P
It's cheaper to film in Chicago than New York.
The Batman movies are never about Batman.
It's amazing how much of a cunt you are. Of course you won't go see the movie to see how fucking wrong you are, so there's no chance of an "I was wrong," but hey. Keep looking down your nose at everybody else!
That popular thing you like? It sucks.
Gee, really? OK, so let's see what I've seen that was released this year.
Cloverleaf
In Bruges
The Lost
Diary of the Dead
The Unforeseen
Sleepwalking
Chapter 27
American Zombie
Run, Fat Boy, Run
Leatherheads
Deception
Get Smart
WALL-E
Wanted
Hancock
Gonzo: The Life and Work of Dr. Hunter S. Thompon
The Dark Knight
Without question, TDK is the best movie I've seen in that list. So, you sniveling little pissrag, what movies have been released in 2008 that are superior?
Fucking trolling retards.
I think either Deadshot or Clayface would make for an excellent third movie.
But who am I kidding? I want to see Kingdom Come in movie form.