It would be nice, if everything worked the way you and your parent poster have written. I'd like you both to make short, 15 minute presentation, that would allow people with no technical background to understand Linux installation. When you do that, sit back and watch Linux desktop share rise, rise, rise...
Recently, a friend and co-worker changed his desktop OS from XP to Ubuntu. He had issues and I had to help him resolve them more than once. So, what were they? Nothing more than setting up email (Lotus Notes), connecting network printers, accessing network shares. I'm talking about technically aware person. I admit, Ubuntu makes it easy to install and set up basic functionality, but it's unfortunately not even close to Microsofts' systems. Yet.
You are missing something... The fact that US is the most active aggressor in the last century. If US would be as old as Iran (Persia, other names...) it would be called AtlantUS.
http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm
If piracy is illegal and counterfeiting is illegal then I see no problem in police doing the bust. They were probably tipped by RIAA, but I still think this was a job for police.
Funny, if one replaces Putin with Bush the article still makes sense... They are both assholes, but for me, Bush wins. With all the advisors, US administration should know better than provoke Russians, which they knew they would by setting up this shield.
Netware 6.5 has MySQL, Apache, PHP, Perl support, java app server. It's a very reliable platform, but mostly for other Novell applications. Unfortunatelly it seems that Novell is incappable of marketing their products and most people think that Novell=Netware 3.1, 4.11, 5 etc. I am a Linux fan and almost zealot, but I work for Novell partner and seeing/installing/maintaining/using their other apps amazes me. They are good. Just not at marketing:/
I'm slowly starting to get exasperated by this community over MS-Novell deal. I work for Novell partner shop and wasn't happy with this, but when I read different statements, I got calmer and I'm pretty much waiting the outcome.
But some of the statements here are plain nonsense. Conspiracy is everywhere, Novell bad, bad!!
I know Hula, as I do many other open source projects. It is in no way a MS Exchange replacement. Could never be, as far as I'm concerned. I realise that it's very hip to complain and yawn about Novell. Don't forget that it was Novell that opensourced their Netmail project and enabled the start of Hula. To think that there were people coding Hula and getting paid is in itself worth a mention. There aren't many companies where you'd see that. While everybody is talking about Hula and how it could replace Exchange, I saw nobody even mention Groupwise. For most of you that do not know the product, it's full colaboration suite, not free or anything, but it runs also on Linux. I find that many times, when Novell name surfaces in discussions, people know only about Netware and that's it. If Novells marketing would do it's job properly, MS wouldn't sleep as calmly as it does now.
It became clear after the liberation war, that Iraq's regime was trying to make it look, like they have WMD. It was Saddam's last option against the Bushes. Unfortunatelly it was also what made him loose power. If they wouldn't bluff with WMD, the war would be averted, at least until Bush found another "credible" reason to invade. So, week or two maybe.
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I think that US Military (or Navy or whoever runs the war for democracy) could also provide these comforts to its troops while they are fighting for the state. Why wouldn't US Military reach a sensible agreement with RIAA to provide "audio services" to its troops? Everything legal and maybe some karma for RIAA (it sounds contradictory to their latest actions, but still).
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I sometimes get the feeling that the state and it's institutions are just a tool in the hands of large corporations. Especially under current american president...
Netware that everybody is talking about is version somewhere before Netware 6, so around year 2000.
Have you tried loading the NLMs in a separate memory space? You can do that in Netware, but really depends on modules (I run Apache web servers on Netware in separate memory spaces) and you can't run OS core modules in sep. mem space. Actually from my experiences, Netware kernel is quite good, especially in new OES Netware, probably one of the best/fastest for single CPU servers. I am also Linux specialist, so I know what Linux kernel can do, and in 1cpu configs Netware performs better.
Otherwise something else saddens me and that is a fact that Novell couldn't sell water to thirsty man. I don't know why, but their strategy is lacking something Micro$oftiish. They have many good products, especially in Identity&Security, many of which I have seen working flawlesly in production environment, but people simply don't know them. And they aren't "Novell legacy something" products, they are many times based on open source programs with modifications.
There are a few things wrong in your post, at least I think so. Average American consumer has far less money to spend than average Japanese or European consumer (Western, Northern Europe, off course). It's the art of spending/attitude that is different. I read some great articles about Japanese GSM market and phone makers/net providers relationships. In Slovenia, where I live, almost 90 percent of terittory/more than 95% population is covered by 3G network. How about that? And we have GDP of 10K$...
I have been working with Novell for almost four years and have run into many similar arguments. But there are some facts that Slashdoters and others often ignore. And that's a relationship between Novell's products. You can't run ZENworks Desktop management with directories other than eDIrectory. Certain applications work only with other Novell applications, while Novell still gives out as much as they can without geopardizing market shares of their flagship products.
Regarding my customer base, it always comes down to sensible advice. Some need MS, others don't. Maybe you needed Novell better than MS?
Just an example from one of my clients: three years ago they had some 10 MS servers, 10 Netware, 5 linux servers. They decided to ditch Netware and move to MS. Their current situation: some 40 MS servers, 10 or less linux servers and 7 Netware servers. They still employ eDirectory as their primary directory (they have three), ZENworks. I actually installed a new OES Netware server last week to host their DNS and DHCP services. Will probably be doing 3-node cluster later this year... They took two years of planning the ditch and in the end they have 2 times the servers they did in the beginning. They found no viable option to Novell's services...
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It would be nice, if everything worked the way you and your parent poster have written. I'd like you both to make short, 15 minute presentation, that would allow people with no technical background to understand Linux installation. When you do that, sit back and watch Linux desktop share rise, rise, rise... Recently, a friend and co-worker changed his desktop OS from XP to Ubuntu. He had issues and I had to help him resolve them more than once. So, what were they? Nothing more than setting up email (Lotus Notes), connecting network printers, accessing network shares. I'm talking about technically aware person. I admit, Ubuntu makes it easy to install and set up basic functionality, but it's unfortunately not even close to Microsofts' systems. Yet.
You are missing something... The fact that US is the most active aggressor in the last century. If US would be as old as Iran (Persia, other names...) it would be called AtlantUS. http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm
If piracy is illegal and counterfeiting is illegal then I see no problem in police doing the bust. They were probably tipped by RIAA, but I still think this was a job for police.
Funny, if one replaces Putin with Bush the article still makes sense... They are both assholes, but for me, Bush wins. With all the advisors, US administration should know better than provoke Russians, which they knew they would by setting up this shield.
Netware 6.5 has MySQL, Apache, PHP, Perl support, java app server. It's a very reliable platform, but mostly for other Novell applications. Unfortunatelly it seems that Novell is incappable of marketing their products and most people think that Novell=Netware 3.1, 4.11, 5 etc. I am a Linux fan and almost zealot, but I work for Novell partner and seeing/installing/maintaining/using their other apps amazes me. They are good. Just not at marketing :/
I'm slowly starting to get exasperated by this community over MS-Novell deal. I work for Novell partner shop and wasn't happy with this, but when I read different statements, I got calmer and I'm pretty much waiting the outcome. But some of the statements here are plain nonsense. Conspiracy is everywhere, Novell bad, bad!! I know Hula, as I do many other open source projects. It is in no way a MS Exchange replacement. Could never be, as far as I'm concerned. I realise that it's very hip to complain and yawn about Novell. Don't forget that it was Novell that opensourced their Netmail project and enabled the start of Hula. To think that there were people coding Hula and getting paid is in itself worth a mention. There aren't many companies where you'd see that. While everybody is talking about Hula and how it could replace Exchange, I saw nobody even mention Groupwise. For most of you that do not know the product, it's full colaboration suite, not free or anything, but it runs also on Linux. I find that many times, when Novell name surfaces in discussions, people know only about Netware and that's it. If Novells marketing would do it's job properly, MS wouldn't sleep as calmly as it does now.
It became clear after the liberation war, that Iraq's regime was trying to make it look, like they have WMD. It was Saddam's last option against the Bushes. Unfortunatelly it was also what made him loose power. If they wouldn't bluff with WMD, the war would be averted, at least until Bush found another "credible" reason to invade. So, week or two maybe.
I think that US Military (or Navy or whoever runs the war for democracy) could also provide these comforts to its troops while they are fighting for the state. Why wouldn't US Military reach a sensible agreement with RIAA to provide "audio services" to its troops? Everything legal and maybe some karma for RIAA (it sounds contradictory to their latest actions, but still).
Maybe it's his annoying neighbours' address...
I sometimes get the feeling that the state and it's institutions are just a tool in the hands of large corporations. Especially under current american president...
Netware that everybody is talking about is version somewhere before Netware 6, so around year 2000. Have you tried loading the NLMs in a separate memory space? You can do that in Netware, but really depends on modules (I run Apache web servers on Netware in separate memory spaces) and you can't run OS core modules in sep. mem space. Actually from my experiences, Netware kernel is quite good, especially in new OES Netware, probably one of the best/fastest for single CPU servers. I am also Linux specialist, so I know what Linux kernel can do, and in 1cpu configs Netware performs better. Otherwise something else saddens me and that is a fact that Novell couldn't sell water to thirsty man. I don't know why, but their strategy is lacking something Micro$oftiish. They have many good products, especially in Identity&Security, many of which I have seen working flawlesly in production environment, but people simply don't know them. And they aren't "Novell legacy something" products, they are many times based on open source programs with modifications.
There are a few things wrong in your post, at least I think so. Average American consumer has far less money to spend than average Japanese or European consumer (Western, Northern Europe, off course). It's the art of spending/attitude that is different. I read some great articles about Japanese GSM market and phone makers/net providers relationships. In Slovenia, where I live, almost 90 percent of terittory/more than 95% population is covered by 3G network. How about that? And we have GDP of 10K$...
I have been working with Novell for almost four years and have run into many similar arguments. But there are some facts that Slashdoters and others often ignore. And that's a relationship between Novell's products. You can't run ZENworks Desktop management with directories other than eDIrectory. Certain applications work only with other Novell applications, while Novell still gives out as much as they can without geopardizing market shares of their flagship products. Regarding my customer base, it always comes down to sensible advice. Some need MS, others don't. Maybe you needed Novell better than MS? Just an example from one of my clients: three years ago they had some 10 MS servers, 10 Netware, 5 linux servers. They decided to ditch Netware and move to MS. Their current situation: some 40 MS servers, 10 or less linux servers and 7 Netware servers. They still employ eDirectory as their primary directory (they have three), ZENworks. I actually installed a new OES Netware server last week to host their DNS and DHCP services. Will probably be doing 3-node cluster later this year... They took two years of planning the ditch and in the end they have 2 times the servers they did in the beginning. They found no viable option to Novell's services...