Umm... huh? I'm going to have to pull your punk card here; if you're capable of dissecting the individual technologies of a suitably deployed AD, as well as their holistic impact to an organization, please post something more significant here and we can deliberate on this comment.
None required but thanks for the offer. As previously noted, I dig a good educated debate. Though a bit off topic, this sub-thread has been the light of an otherwise dull day:-) Differing perspectives (Ford or Chevy anyone?)is what this medium is all about. If I need a qualified eDirectory SME, I know who to call:b
Call off the dogs man....
If my last post was not clear enough, let me point out a few things. My comment of, "I hate emotional, factless comments..." were not directed toward you. On the contrary, in my second sentence I indicated that your facts were clear and thorough. The "I am tired of the age old argument by staunch Novell diehards..." comment was a general reference to the great majority of posts from Novell admins and engineers who really have not taken the time, or have the ability, to objectively compare and contrast the technical differences (implementation and design) between NDS and AD, yet feel the need to toss their opinions into the mix with no supportive basis of fact. Your background and depth of knowledge with NDS is recognized.
I'll end my consensus with this; Yes, eDirectory is a more mature product (I felt the need to state this because you mentioned the product twice). It would be irresponsible (as well as ignorant) to make a deliberate statement to the contrary. I dont see anywhere above where this comparison was introduced.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the post that I replied to was one of those unsubstantiated comments.
"Re:netware is no good(Score:2)
by jav1231 (539129) on Wednesday March 08, @04:49AM (#14873697)
I disagree. AD is simply painted up better. AD is a direct rip-off of NDS and frankly NDS replicates better."
Unlike your posts, his (or hers) contains no supportive arguments.
Clear enough?
I stand corrected on using the word protocol where I obviously meant standard. This stated, however, your supporting facts (though detailed enough to appreciate your position) do nothing to debate my original statement... AD is not a rip-off of NDS. I have no intention of a feature-by-feature, implementation-by-implementation comparison of the two products. I was only motivated to comment on the fact that I am tired of the age old argument by staunch Novell diehards that NDS is "da bomb" and that AD is just a poor copy. I love an educated debate... I hate emotional, factless comments tossed around by so many people.
Lets get our technical facts straight here. AD is not a "rip off" of NDS; both NDS and AD are proprietary implementations of the same open protocol. Along this line of reasoning, it follows that NDS is a "rip-off" of Vines...
"I doubt that companies like symantic, nortin, intuit, and AOL will"
That is one of the most uncorroborated comments I have read to date. From where does this prediction come?
Slashdot Mirror
"zero shock pc transport service"
LMAO.. sounds like Friz is a marketing major :-)
Umm ... huh? I'm going to have to pull your punk card here; if you're capable of dissecting the individual technologies of a suitably deployed AD, as well as their holistic impact to an organization, please post something more significant here and we can deliberate on this comment.
None required but thanks for the offer. As previously noted, I dig a good educated debate. Though a bit off topic, this sub-thread has been the light of an otherwise dull day :-) Differing perspectives (Ford or Chevy anyone?)is what this medium is all about. If I need a qualified eDirectory SME, I know who to call :b
Call off the dogs man ....
If my last post was not clear enough, let me point out a few things. My comment of, "I hate emotional, factless comments..." were not directed toward you. On the contrary, in my second sentence I indicated that your facts were clear and thorough. The "I am tired of the age old argument by staunch Novell diehards..." comment was a general reference to the great majority of posts from Novell admins and engineers who really have not taken the time, or have the ability, to objectively compare and contrast the technical differences (implementation and design) between NDS and AD, yet feel the need to toss their opinions into the mix with no supportive basis of fact. Your background and depth of knowledge with NDS is recognized.
I'll end my consensus with this; Yes, eDirectory is a more mature product (I felt the need to state this because you mentioned the product twice). It would be irresponsible (as well as ignorant) to make a deliberate statement to the contrary. I dont see anywhere above where this comparison was introduced.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the post that I replied to was one of those unsubstantiated comments.
"Re:netware is no good(Score:2)
by jav1231 (539129) on Wednesday March 08, @04:49AM (#14873697)
I disagree. AD is simply painted up better. AD is a direct rip-off of NDS and frankly NDS replicates better."
Unlike your posts, his (or hers) contains no supportive arguments.
Clear enough?
I stand corrected on using the word protocol where I obviously meant standard. This stated, however, your supporting facts (though detailed enough to appreciate your position) do nothing to debate my original statement ... AD is not a rip-off of NDS. I have no intention of a feature-by-feature, implementation-by-implementation comparison of the two products. I was only motivated to comment on the fact that I am tired of the age old argument by staunch Novell diehards that NDS is "da bomb" and that AD is just a poor copy. I love an educated debate ... I hate emotional, factless comments tossed around by so many people.
Lets get our technical facts straight here. AD is not a "rip off" of NDS; both NDS and AD are proprietary implementations of the same open protocol. Along this line of reasoning, it follows that NDS is a "rip-off" of Vines ...
"I doubt that companies like symantic, nortin, intuit, and AOL will"
That is one of the most uncorroborated comments I have read to date. From where does this prediction come?