I should direct you to read down the thread a tad but I'll reiterate.
The big labels make a deal with Apple for their music, but not there are small labels and indie artists who also sell their music on iTunes.
Some of those small labels and artists want to sell their music on iTunes but without DRM. Try this for more details. Quote if you can't be bothered:
Nettwerk Music president Ric Arboit agreed and said his label has always wanted to sell unprotected music, but the majors dictated the way online stores such as iTunes and Puretracks were initially set up.
"We would have done it from day one if it was available to us, but when it came to the indies, that's what they had in place."
They're protecting a trademark here, not a patent which was the original point.
Anyhow, you're clutching at straws really - read the comments to that post and it's rare you'll find a dissenting voice to the fact that it is a Good Thing(tm).
Any other examples? You have two half examples, which I suppose is a start, so we'll call that one. Any more? I think the challenge was a 'letter-spewing factory' or something similar.
It isn't, for whatever reason MS decided to dump it (hardly clever).
Playsforsure: Licensable and compatible with a wide range of players, exc. Zune and iPod. Fairplay: Only compatible with iTunes and iPods. WMDRM: Only compatible with Zune and WMP10
I think the Zune DRM is MS's attempt to try and limit their music/player market exactly like Apple does, but I expect it will fall apart in the same way that Apple's will. I honestly think it's only a matter of time, seeing as all 3 platforms have been broken time and time again and it won't be too long until the MPAA realise that DRM is a waste of time.
Play.com only lists a PS3 with 3 games at £524.99, saving £89.95, so the undiscounted price would be £614.94. Take off 3 games at £49.99 and you're still left with £464.97. That's the premium version of course, but I can't imagine a world where the standard edition costs less than half that.
Congrats, Twit - this thread has made me laugh more than anything else I've seen in the last week.
Did it ever occur to you (and I'm just throwing this out there, just to see how your mind can twist it to your own ends, really) that by acting like a paranoid schizophrenic whenever someone disagrees with you that you might actually be helping Microsoft more than Linux? The more you act like it's all some global conspiracy from The Man to keep you happy band of Linux users down, the more people think that people like you who advocate Debian and the rest of the distros are just insane geeks?
Even after people have told you that they contribute packages to distros, code OSS and use Linux over Windows and still tell you how much of a cock they think you are, you'd still rather believe that someone, out there, actually thinks you matter enough to spend good money on. Who would need to? Everything you've said on this thread alone is perfectly adequate to discredit you, because you've done nothing creditable to help Linux.
I'm sure if anyone, anyone at all, in Redmond is reading what you've written they're congratulating you. You've done more to damage Linux than their 'billions of dollars' ever have.
Good work on putting words in someone else's mouth.
He hasn't explained to anyone outside of Apple why he's doing what he's doing, so WMF is spot on - to infect tracks that have been requested remain DRM-free with DRM against artist's wishes, and then to go ahead and write an essay detailing how it's the music companies that are at fault for such a dodgy system is hypocrisy and lies.
While I agree with your comment about the Zune system, Playsforsure is actually licensable and therefore available to anybody that wants it. Apple won't even do that.
Isn't it traditional to actually ask them to take it down first, and if they do, then aren't they complying? Meaning Viacom might as well give the whole thing up before it starts?
Reading the article it's not clear whether YouTube complied or not - Viacom requested 100,000 clips be taken down, but it doesn't say anywhere whether they actually did or not, and you can't just assume any longer given the nature of lawsuits at the moment...
The scenario you describe is entirely fictional and more than a little doolally.
If developers and gamers alike started having to pay a license fee to develop for the Windows platform, game development would shift to free alternatives like Linux quicker than you could say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'. Microsoft make enough money off OS sales at the moment as it is: charging a license fee would more than likely lose them money rather than gain it.
I also question how buying a Dell computer and installing Linux on it costs 'minus $48', unless you meant stealing a Dell computer.
- It could take you ten minutes to register your copy of Office if you take the slowest option, when there are faster options available to you and you decided not to take them,
- If your laptop breaks you have to get another copy of Office, or you could call MS who have no qualms about giving out new keys if you have an issue where the original computer is unusable,
- That you could have spent $380 on something else you would find just as useful, which is your fault as a consumer for not taking the time to find out if what you're buying is actually worth it for you. I don't blame a car manufacturer for spending $200,000 on a sports car when I would have been fine with a $14,000 Ford Focus.
Go ahead and use OO.o - I find it to be crippled and bug-ridden compared to my experience with Office, and that's saying something. To be honest, if you're stupid enough to spend your hard-earned cash on something you don't like or need without bothering to test whether it's good for you, then you dug your grave and you should lie in it.
I don't have any mod points but I can say that this is spot on, except that it applies to both upstream and downstream, at least here.
Over here in the UK, companies advertise contention ratios (usually 50:1 or 33:1) with their broadband. That means in effect that if everyone is downloading all at once on your DSLAM in the exchange, your 8Mbps line is suddenly only 242Kbps. This rarely happens, but it's something to bear in mind.
In other words, nice try at a pretence that the article you linked to labels Vista machines as being part of botnets - in fact, the article itself was up on Slashdot before Vista was even released.
No, they aren't. Punctuation is absolutely essential to sentence flow and structure. To steal an example from the internet:
Hide the cows outside. Hide! The cow's outside. Hide, the cow's outside.
Three sentences, three different meanings, and the only difference is punctuation. To say you're against the erosion of the English language and then claim that punctuation isn't important enough to worry about is just plain moronic.
Can you cite an example where Microsoft has updated a standard and now the old standard can no longer be read? I assume you're talking of some magical image or document format that somehow erases itself when a standard updates?
There's plugins for OO.o that still read Word 1.0 files. Files don't just disappear because the format is no longer supported by it's maker.
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The big labels make a deal with Apple for their music, but not there are small labels and indie artists who also sell their music on iTunes.
Some of those small labels and artists want to sell their music on iTunes but without DRM. Try this for more details. Quote if you can't be bothered:
They're protecting a trademark here, not a patent which was the original point.
Anyhow, you're clutching at straws really - read the comments to that post and it's rare you'll find a dissenting voice to the fact that it is a Good Thing(tm).
Any other examples? You have two half examples, which I suppose is a start, so we'll call that one. Any more? I think the challenge was a 'letter-spewing factory' or something similar.
It isn't, for whatever reason MS decided to dump it (hardly clever).
Playsforsure: Licensable and compatible with a wide range of players, exc. Zune and iPod.
Fairplay: Only compatible with iTunes and iPods.
WMDRM: Only compatible with Zune and WMP10
I think the Zune DRM is MS's attempt to try and limit their music/player market exactly like Apple does, but I expect it will fall apart in the same way that Apple's will. I honestly think it's only a matter of time, seeing as all 3 platforms have been broken time and time again and it won't be too long until the MPAA realise that DRM is a waste of time.
Damn, I need mod points now :) Except I've just ruined it by posting!
OH CRUEL FATE.
But yeah, pretty funny.
See, that was just a lie and I'm pretty sure you knew it.
Just as an example:
Play.com lists a Wii with Wii Sports at £179.99..
Play.com only lists a PS3 with 3 games at £524.99, saving £89.95, so the undiscounted price would be £614.94. Take off 3 games at £49.99 and you're still left with £464.97. That's the premium version of course, but I can't imagine a world where the standard edition costs less than half that.
Congrats, Twit - this thread has made me laugh more than anything else I've seen in the last week.
Did it ever occur to you (and I'm just throwing this out there, just to see how your mind can twist it to your own ends, really) that by acting like a paranoid schizophrenic whenever someone disagrees with you that you might actually be helping Microsoft more than Linux? The more you act like it's all some global conspiracy from The Man to keep you happy band of Linux users down, the more people think that people like you who advocate Debian and the rest of the distros are just insane geeks?
Even after people have told you that they contribute packages to distros, code OSS and use Linux over Windows and still tell you how much of a cock they think you are, you'd still rather believe that someone, out there, actually thinks you matter enough to spend good money on. Who would need to? Everything you've said on this thread alone is perfectly adequate to discredit you, because you've done nothing creditable to help Linux.
I'm sure if anyone, anyone at all, in Redmond is reading what you've written they're congratulating you. You've done more to damage Linux than their 'billions of dollars' ever have.
Good work on putting words in someone else's mouth.
He hasn't explained to anyone outside of Apple why he's doing what he's doing, so WMF is spot on - to infect tracks that have been requested remain DRM-free with DRM against artist's wishes, and then to go ahead and write an essay detailing how it's the music companies that are at fault for such a dodgy system is hypocrisy and lies.
While I agree with your comment about the Zune system, Playsforsure is actually licensable and therefore available to anybody that wants it. Apple won't even do that.
You've given one example of a guy saying 'MS do this but I'm not going to prove it'.
You fail to acknowledge that you haven't actually made a claim yet that you've backed up with some evidence. Want to try again?
I was thinking about this.
Isn't it traditional to actually ask them to take it down first, and if they do, then aren't they complying? Meaning Viacom might as well give the whole thing up before it starts?
Reading the article it's not clear whether YouTube complied or not - Viacom requested 100,000 clips be taken down, but it doesn't say anywhere whether they actually did or not, and you can't just assume any longer given the nature of lawsuits at the moment...
The scenario you describe is entirely fictional and more than a little doolally.
If developers and gamers alike started having to pay a license fee to develop for the Windows platform, game development would shift to free alternatives like Linux quicker than you could say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'. Microsoft make enough money off OS sales at the moment as it is: charging a license fee would more than likely lose them money rather than gain it.
I also question how buying a Dell computer and installing Linux on it costs 'minus $48', unless you meant stealing a Dell computer.
The Onion have always been slightly prescient, let's be honest :)
So your main complaints are:
- It could take you ten minutes to register your copy of Office if you take the slowest option, when there are faster options available to you and you decided not to take them,
- If your laptop breaks you have to get another copy of Office, or you could call MS who have no qualms about giving out new keys if you have an issue where the original computer is unusable,
- That you could have spent $380 on something else you would find just as useful, which is your fault as a consumer for not taking the time to find out if what you're buying is actually worth it for you. I don't blame a car manufacturer for spending $200,000 on a sports car when I would have been fine with a $14,000 Ford Focus.
Go ahead and use OO.o - I find it to be crippled and bug-ridden compared to my experience with Office, and that's saying something. To be honest, if you're stupid enough to spend your hard-earned cash on something you don't like or need without bothering to test whether it's good for you, then you dug your grave and you should lie in it.
I don't have any mod points but I can say that this is spot on, except that it applies to both upstream and downstream, at least here.
Over here in the UK, companies advertise contention ratios (usually 50:1 or 33:1) with their broadband. That means in effect that if everyone is downloading all at once on your DSLAM in the exchange, your 8Mbps line is suddenly only 242Kbps. This rarely happens, but it's something to bear in mind.
Not while people are using computers, no.
In other words, nice try at a pretence that the article you linked to labels Vista machines as being part of botnets - in fact, the article itself was up on Slashdot before Vista was even released.
Lies, lies, and more lies. Tragic, really.
(wierd capcha today, is there supposed to be a space between "frag" and "rant"?)
No, there isn't.
This is opposed to the heart-stoppingly exciting life of posting anti-MS FUD on a Linux news site?
I think I'd rather take the 'endless' patching.
Ah, I see now. Your punctuation and spelling errors are absolutely fine: it's other people's that are the problem with the English language nowadays.
My mistake.
punctuation errors are forgivable
No, they aren't. Punctuation is absolutely essential to sentence flow and structure. To steal an example from the internet:
Hide the cows outside.
Hide! The cow's outside.
Hide, the cow's outside.
Three sentences, three different meanings, and the only difference is punctuation. To say you're against the erosion of the English language and then claim that punctuation isn't important enough to worry about is just plain moronic.
Can you cite an example where Microsoft has updated a standard and now the old standard can no longer be read? I assume you're talking of some magical image or document format that somehow erases itself when a standard updates?
There's plugins for OO.o that still read Word 1.0 files. Files don't just disappear because the format is no longer supported by it's maker.
Just to play devil's advocate here, it is possible to very strong with no stamina whatsoever.
:)
You're right though, tis stupid
SPOILER ALERT
You might get your wish with Aunt May, she's been shot.
Wrong. One tebibyte is equal to 1024 gibibytes. One tarabyte equals 1000 gigabytes. If you're going to correct someone, do it right.
You meant 'terabyte', not 'tarabyte'. If you're going to correct someone, do it right.
Step 5: ???
Step 6: Profit!
I'm willing to take the hit for this one. Everyone should do this once in their posting life.