Not venerable, but vulnerable. Not Actel, but Alcatel.
If you're going to throw bullshit around, please get the words right.
Their recent loss to Actel/Lucent, and the $1,500,000,000.00 judgment highlights this.
It's amazing you would use this as an example, because it proves you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about. Microsoft licensed the exact same technology from Fraunhofer for a quite substantial amount of money and yet the court still ruled against, and thus opened up every other company who uses that same license to a patent lawsuit including Apple and Real. Essentially, then, we have seen a company misrepresent itself as the owner of a particular patent, either deliberately or otherwise, while the real owner waits until it starts posting stockmarket losses to try and fight the case. See what a little research gets you?
All that case shows is how ludicrous the patent system really is. To be honest, there are plenty of other examples you could have used for this (MS, as you say, are not the kindest company with regards to patents and copyrights) and you chose the worst one. Kudos as usual.
Excuse me, while I go listen to some nice oggfiles I downloaded from archive.org. I'll keep right on partying
Well, seeing as you seem to have the time, maybe you could compose some semblance of a response to the argument I put to you here?
Okay, so what we've boiled down to is basically that Linux is more secure because the community controls all access to all useful software. Great, except that if you want Linux to beat even 5% desktop marketshare that can't be the case.
The higher the marketshare you have, the more people code software for you. Under your system, you have to vet every single piece of software they have created to be included in apt-get or be rejected as malware. As your marketshare increases, your resources are stretched and spend more time vetting applications than you do actually patching and improving your software. How many people are going to unquestionably give all their time and resources for free to doing this? The bigger you get, the more the savvy portion of the community will be outnumbered by the non-savvy.
What you seem to have rolled over is that MS is already doing this in Vista. Software that is provided to them or a trusted third-party is vetted and then provided with a certification if it's not malware. Software that is certified runs without warning but software that you download from a 'net nasty' pops a warning, though still allows installation if that's the wish of the user. The difference between your beautiful system and MS's apparent travesty is that people need to survive. Whereas a lot of people would be prepared to do this for money, you will run out of people that are going to do it for nothing.
Let's face it, the best scenario for Linux is the one you have at the moment. It's free and you have all the software you need, and you don't have the preponderance of users, stupid or not, making it worse for everyone. Unfortunately, the more laymen you attract to the Linux desktop just makes it a worse experience for everyone.
Yawn. I've never met, seen or spoken to JB in my life. The phenomenon you're witnessing is called memory. You may not know what it is - you seem to have such a problem remembering your own fake personalities, I'm not surprised you forget other people's real ones.
OHNOES! That was a poorly veiled excuse for an accusation. You're the one with the sockpuppet here, Twitter, not me. First I worked for Microsoft, and now I'm jb.hl.com? You should join the Scooby gang, they're crying out for such ingenious detective work... and by that I mean you're so far wrong that you can't even see what's correct from where you are.
Seeing as you didn't answer any of my pertinent points as usual (arguing the timescale for one reader was a waste of time for you, really, especially when there are far more relevent items you could have discussed), I have nothing else to add.
But then, saying 'Microsoft chairs TC45' is also disingenuous. Microsoft chairing TC45 is almost completely irrelevent as the standard still required backing from the majority of 20 other representatives. That included reps from Corel and Apple, both of whom approved the standard.
I won't question that you have implemented and read standards. So have I. That doesn't make either you or I an expert on what is acceptable as an open standard and what isn't. However, ECMA has apparently had more than two thirds of their standards and tech docs accepted by ISO as standards which is not a track record to shake a stick at.
So, no, I'm not willing to read 6000 pages (or even 737) because I have better things to do. Regardless of this, I'm more willing to trust the judgement of ECMA, an international European standards organisation, than Erris, the sockpuppet of a Linux zealot with a tenuous grip on reality.
One person spending 5 minutes per page (a rather conservative estimate) reading for 8 hours a day would take you just over two months. Spend 30 minutes a page and it might just take you a year. Please point me in the direction of somewhere where I can get a PhD that's worth a damn in a year and I'll show you some fantastic seafront properties in Switzerland that I'm just itching to be rid of.
Not to mention if they only have 1 person examining a spec then they aren't doing their job properly.
Oh, and let's not forget that a Class A liaison of the ISO already approved the OpenXML as a working open standard, and that OpenXML already conforms to the EU's definition of an open standard (who have been far more strict with MS than the US have been). In fact, the only company who voted against it's ECMA approval was - shock horror - IBM, which made the result an extraordinarily close 20 votes to 1 in favour of adoption.
I think 20 out of 21 members of a standards organisation know a darn sight more than you do about, well, standards.
Any 'system overhead' due to DRM only kicks in when you're playing DRM'd content, and at the discretion of whoever recorded the content.
So, yes, you might notice some problems if you're trying to watch a Blu-ray disc and play Counter-Strike at the same time, but I have attempted something similar (I have a DRM'd music file that sets off the Protected Media Path) with no ill-effects at all.
Unfortunately for/. (again), the article is completely misinformed. I have only had problems with one game which is now 10 years old. All 4 games mentioned in the article run perfectly on my system. Even Theme Hospital runs without a hitch.
I haven't seen a single article on here about Vista since it's release which isn't crammed to the brim with ill-informed FUD.
Yawn - I still don't work for Microsoft. Wiping my arse with your arguments is my hobby, remember?
Oh, and I don't waste my mod points on you. Sorry to rain on your pretentious parade, but I only mod up and only people who deserve it, which has never been you.
Keep trying though - I especially loved the 'pretending you're not Erris' thing, that was pretty good.
I hate to bring this into it, but so far the Iraq war has cost the American economy nearly 200 billion dollars. Don't make it sound like it's money the administration doesn't have - it just needs to be used better.
If they had siphoned that money into clean energy and away from oil dependence, one could easily argue that it removes many of the reasons that the US went into Iraq in the first place.
In the UK (not sure if it works the same way in the US, IANAL) recordings are only permitted if you're registered as a data controller under the Data Protection Act. That means people recording calls that they make is generally against the law.
Being registered as a data controller costs money, but it also makes you liable for any breaches with some quite substantial fines under UK law. I would be surprised if there wasn't a similar provision in American law somewhere.
Did you miss the part where I showed other statistics showing anywhere between 85% and 95% marketsharefor XP? Of course you didn't, but you ignored them anyway because they don't fit into your cock-eyed world-view. Also ignored all the other points I made about other OSes having little to no market share regardless. Good old Twit, willing to ignore the crux of the point to try to make someone concede one insignificant victory. No dice, bitchtits!
Hi, Twitter! Good to see you. Farming with this account again, after you managed to get eight Troll mods in a row with your main one, eh? I was very impressed at that, good going! Anyway, to business, we can't sit around here, chatting about 'old times', eh?
These stats seem to show that Windows XP is at 75% usage and thus did, in fact, manage to 'grab marketshare' in a way that any OS manufacturer would intend it to. Apparently for you 'plenty of users' is 9% of the market share, which I will concede to you with as much grace as you have ever shown.
Unfortunately for you though, according to these figures, even Mac usage is increasing more than Linux usage is, which I find to be a great pity, as I'd much rather people were using Linux. Oh well, eh? And this is from one website - others suggest Windows XP has an 85% market share, or even in some cases as much as 90%! Obviously 'not good enough', so I'm wondering how Linux's 3% marketshare ranks on that incredible scale of yours?
Finally, Vista doesn't suck. I should know - I'm using it. Have you? Don't answer that, it's one of those rhetorical questions you've heard so much about.
He might have been marked any of those things if he, and by extension you, actually remembered or bothered to find out that the Wiimote can be plugged into other shells. Like, say, a guitar shell.
So you were right when you said it shouldn't be troll or insightful, but "-1 Is Stupid".
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Not venerable, but vulnerable.
Not Actel, but Alcatel.
If you're going to throw bullshit around, please get the words right.
Their recent loss to Actel/Lucent, and the $1,500,000,000.00 judgment highlights this.
It's amazing you would use this as an example, because it proves you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about. Microsoft licensed the exact same technology from Fraunhofer for a quite substantial amount of money and yet the court still ruled against, and thus opened up every other company who uses that same license to a patent lawsuit including Apple and Real. Essentially, then, we have seen a company misrepresent itself as the owner of a particular patent, either deliberately or otherwise, while the real owner waits until it starts posting stockmarket losses to try and fight the case. See what a little research gets you?
All that case shows is how ludicrous the patent system really is. To be honest, there are plenty of other examples you could have used for this (MS, as you say, are not the kindest company with regards to patents and copyrights) and you chose the worst one. Kudos as usual.
Excuse me, while I go listen to some nice oggfiles I downloaded from archive.org. I'll keep right on partying
Well, seeing as you seem to have the time, maybe you could compose some semblance of a response to the argument I put to you here?
Trust me, so would I! Looks unlikely though, eh?
Never mind. There will always be more bullshit, after all.
Johny is not stupid
What wonderful unintentional irony.
Okay, so what we've boiled down to is basically that Linux is more secure because the community controls all access to all useful software. Great, except that if you want Linux to beat even 5% desktop marketshare that can't be the case.
The higher the marketshare you have, the more people code software for you. Under your system, you have to vet every single piece of software they have created to be included in apt-get or be rejected as malware. As your marketshare increases, your resources are stretched and spend more time vetting applications than you do actually patching and improving your software. How many people are going to unquestionably give all their time and resources for free to doing this? The bigger you get, the more the savvy portion of the community will be outnumbered by the non-savvy.
What you seem to have rolled over is that MS is already doing this in Vista. Software that is provided to them or a trusted third-party is vetted and then provided with a certification if it's not malware. Software that is certified runs without warning but software that you download from a 'net nasty' pops a warning, though still allows installation if that's the wish of the user. The difference between your beautiful system and MS's apparent travesty is that people need to survive. Whereas a lot of people would be prepared to do this for money, you will run out of people that are going to do it for nothing.
Let's face it, the best scenario for Linux is the one you have at the moment. It's free and you have all the software you need, and you don't have the preponderance of users, stupid or not, making it worse for everyone. Unfortunately, the more laymen you attract to the Linux desktop just makes it a worse experience for everyone.
No, that was someone who thinks you are a douche-bag.
Have a little less respect for yourself.
(This was too easy. Please try harder, kthx)
Yawn. I've never met, seen or spoken to JB in my life. The phenomenon you're witnessing is called memory. You may not know what it is - you seem to have such a problem remembering your own fake personalities, I'm not surprised you forget other people's real ones.
OHNOES! That was a poorly veiled excuse for an accusation. You're the one with the sockpuppet here, Twitter, not me. First I worked for Microsoft, and now I'm jb.hl.com? You should join the Scooby gang, they're crying out for such ingenious detective work... and by that I mean you're so far wrong that you can't even see what's correct from where you are.
Seeing as you didn't answer any of my pertinent points as usual (arguing the timescale for one reader was a waste of time for you, really, especially when there are far more relevent items you could have discussed), I have nothing else to add.
But then, saying 'Microsoft chairs TC45' is also disingenuous. Microsoft chairing TC45 is almost completely irrelevent as the standard still required backing from the majority of 20 other representatives. That included reps from Corel and Apple, both of whom approved the standard.
I won't question that you have implemented and read standards. So have I. That doesn't make either you or I an expert on what is acceptable as an open standard and what isn't. However, ECMA has apparently had more than two thirds of their standards and tech docs accepted by ISO as standards which is not a track record to shake a stick at.
So, no, I'm not willing to read 6000 pages (or even 737) because I have better things to do. Regardless of this, I'm more willing to trust the judgement of ECMA, an international European standards organisation, than Erris, the sockpuppet of a Linux zealot with a tenuous grip on reality.
One person spending 5 minutes per page (a rather conservative estimate) reading for 8 hours a day would take you just over two months. Spend 30 minutes a page and it might just take you a year. Please point me in the direction of somewhere where I can get a PhD that's worth a damn in a year and I'll show you some fantastic seafront properties in Switzerland that I'm just itching to be rid of.
Not to mention if they only have 1 person examining a spec then they aren't doing their job properly.
Oh, and let's not forget that a Class A liaison of the ISO already approved the OpenXML as a working open standard, and that OpenXML already conforms to the EU's definition of an open standard (who have been far more strict with MS than the US have been). In fact, the only company who voted against it's ECMA approval was - shock horror - IBM, which made the result an extraordinarily close 20 votes to 1 in favour of adoption.
I think 20 out of 21 members of a standards organisation know a darn sight more than you do about, well, standards.
I call bullshit on this one.
I've only seen that message once, and the application in question didn't install correctly, so it was entirely justified.
Any 'system overhead' due to DRM only kicks in when you're playing DRM'd content, and at the discretion of whoever recorded the content.
/. (again), the article is completely misinformed. I have only had problems with one game which is now 10 years old. All 4 games mentioned in the article run perfectly on my system. Even Theme Hospital runs without a hitch.
So, yes, you might notice some problems if you're trying to watch a Blu-ray disc and play Counter-Strike at the same time, but I have attempted something similar (I have a DRM'd music file that sets off the Protected Media Path) with no ill-effects at all.
Unfortunately for
I haven't seen a single article on here about Vista since it's release which isn't crammed to the brim with ill-informed FUD.
Which isn't surprising considering you're mainly going up against sheep :P
My bad - I'd totally forgotten that presumption of innocence and burden of proof only applied in front of a judge and jury.
Honestly, they don't actually have to deny it for it not to be true. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz?
Sorry, forgot where I was for a moment.
Point conceded - that will teach me to rely on the DPA training I received to make an argument...
Yawn - I still don't work for Microsoft. Wiping my arse with your arguments is my hobby, remember?
Oh, and I don't waste my mod points on you. Sorry to rain on your pretentious parade, but I only mod up and only people who deserve it, which has never been you.
Keep trying though - I especially loved the 'pretending you're not Erris' thing, that was pretty good.
I hate to bring this into it, but so far the Iraq war has cost the American economy nearly 200 billion dollars. Don't make it sound like it's money the administration doesn't have - it just needs to be used better.
If they had siphoned that money into clean energy and away from oil dependence, one could easily argue that it removes many of the reasons that the US went into Iraq in the first place.
I'll bite.
Can you prove that with some figures? Last time I checked revenue was on the increase.
They would think "Some geek came up with a way of stuffing our server logs, so let's ignore it"?
In the UK (not sure if it works the same way in the US, IANAL) recordings are only permitted if you're registered as a data controller under the Data Protection Act. That means people recording calls that they make is generally against the law.
Being registered as a data controller costs money, but it also makes you liable for any breaches with some quite substantial fines under UK law. I would be surprised if there wasn't a similar provision in American law somewhere.
Did you miss the part where I showed other statistics showing anywhere between 85% and 95% marketsharefor XP? Of course you didn't, but you ignored them anyway because they don't fit into your cock-eyed world-view. Also ignored all the other points I made about other OSes having little to no market share regardless. Good old Twit, willing to ignore the crux of the point to try to make someone concede one insignificant victory. No dice, bitchtits!
You deserve it.
I'm glad we agree on something, at least.
Hi, Twitter! Good to see you. Farming with this account again, after you managed to get eight Troll mods in a row with your main one, eh? I was very impressed at that, good going! Anyway, to business, we can't sit around here, chatting about 'old times', eh?
These stats seem to show that Windows XP is at 75% usage and thus did, in fact, manage to 'grab marketshare' in a way that any OS manufacturer would intend it to. Apparently for you 'plenty of users' is 9% of the market share, which I will concede to you with as much grace as you have ever shown.
Unfortunately for you though, according to these figures, even Mac usage is increasing more than Linux usage is, which I find to be a great pity, as I'd much rather people were using Linux. Oh well, eh? And this is from one website - others suggest Windows XP has an 85% market share, or even in some cases as much as 90%! Obviously 'not good enough', so I'm wondering how Linux's 3% marketshare ranks on that incredible scale of yours?
MS credibility? Better than ever! Sorry to break it to you.
Finally, Vista doesn't suck. I should know - I'm using it. Have you? Don't answer that, it's one of those rhetorical questions you've heard so much about.
Come now, predictions of Microsoft's demise are so... mid to late 90s!
Well I laughed, at any rate.
He might have been marked any of those things if he, and by extension you, actually remembered or bothered to find out that the Wiimote can be plugged into other shells. Like, say, a guitar shell.
So you were right when you said it shouldn't be troll or insightful, but "-1 Is Stupid".
On the same note, however, as a UK-based DDR player I would much rather be dancing to Papaya than Boyzone...