Macs are 100% capable of running all the latest games, and doing it well. Hell, these days they are basically a typical x86 machine with a totally ideal OS.
Yeah, but not really. With the advent of Boot Camp, people are now able to install World of Warcraft on both Windows XP and Mac OS X and try it on both platforms. And surprise surprise, Windows wins by a phenomenal margin. Why? Apple's drivers aren't mature and are feature-incomplete. OpenGL has languished and is missing key APIs that game developers need for optimal performance on a cross-platform app.
There may be other issues, as well. Slow message passing in the kernel and other issues may be holding up games on OS X.
I, too, am a Mac fanboy and I love love love OS X. I haven't had anything but a Mac at home in years and years, but there are some hard realities to face. The G5 front side bus was too slow and the Mac OS wasn't designed for gaming. Hardware and software bottlenecks for the loss.
Apple's going to have to do a lot of catchup. According to Blizzard reps, they're quietly doing that, but it's anybody's guess how quickly they'll be successful, if at all.
A Mac gaming console? Not for years. It's almost laughable.
So when it comes right down to it, what gay dudes want is to hook up with straight dudes, and they won't rest until the straight dudes are down with it.
Whoa. I thought it more complicated than that.
Both the gay guilds I play in have several heterosexuals as members. At first, I just wished they didn't have to constantly throw their sexuality in my face, ya know? They're always like, "My wife this, my girlfriend that." Ugh.
But after a while, I realized it's kinda cool to have a straight person in your guild. You can learn a lot about straight life from them. And they're not all boring, either. Some of them are really bright, funny, and creative. In the end, you find out they're not so bad, after all. In a lot of ways, they're just like we are!
The problem is that silencing "sensitive real-world subjects" punishes minorities. Minorities are always "sensitive." Furthermore, it punishes the victim, not the harasser.
It's roughly equivalent to saying that because a woman wears a short skirt, she deserves to be raped. Do women who wear provocative clothing deserve rape? I, at least, would say no. And I don't think that women who wear short skirts should be punished and forced to wear unattractive clothing as a means to protect them from rape.
I also think it's wrong to say that because someone mentions that they're gay that they've invited harrassment. And it's no more appropriate to punish gay people who mention their sexuality than it is to force women to wear pants.
The case was someone recruiting GLBT in to a guild not saying GLBT. Theres a bit of a difference.
and what are you trying to say? That someone recruiting GLBT in prefrence to others is better than someone who would recruit non-GLBT people in prefrence to others? If you are saying that then isnt that a fairly obvious double standard. If your not then I assume, seeing as you have no problem with people promoting GLBT, that you wont have any problem with people being derogatory about GLBT people either.
It appears you think that the guild in question was GLBT exclusive, when that was not the case. Ms Andrews actually said, "we're not glbt-only, but we're glbt-friendly." She was recruiting and everyone was welcome, but she made a point to say that GLBT people should feel free to be themselves in that guild. Her warning was issued because glbt issues were not - in the interpretation of one poorly trained employee - to be mentioned at all in general chat.
Given that, it's kinda hard to make a sound argument that Blizzard is now allowing guilds to pick and choose who may and may not join based on things like race, sexuality, etc. On the contrary, they're quite insistent that you're not permitted to do that.
As such, promoting guilds that discriminate is still a violation. Promoting special interest guilds that are inclusive is not. It's a subtle difference, but it's also significant. It's significant because at least in theory, you should be able to announce a heterosexual white-male friendly guild, just so long as it's inclusive. And that means permitting members who happen to be homosexual black females.
And yes, saying "gay" when you mean "bad" was always punishable, and should continue to be.'
Oh... I guess it was the double standard option then.
I don't see how that's a double-standard. You could also be warned for saying "digusting heterosexuals." Both are a violation of the policy against insulting people's sexuality. I don't see how that's a double-standard.
Math is hard. This isn't.
Intolerance of football scores and intolerance of people are two completely different things. That's really quite laughable to compare them.
But what I hear you saying is that you're a role player, and you want other people to role play, too. At least in theory, that means you don't mention your child, your injury, your local weather, or anything that exists on your side of the screen. Supposing you're playing such games on role playing servers, it's completely reasonable you'd be making such requests of other players.
Of course, if you're not playing on role playing servers or you actually do share details of your real life world - ever - you've got no ground to set those kinds of expectations for other players.
I don't think you actually read the rules, did you? You should try it. They're pretty clearly spelled out. Be sure to read the whole thing, or you'll miss the point.
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01719 p
True, dat.
You're right. Bigotry is not defined as a preference to not hear about aspects of other people you find distasteful. It is defined by intolerance.
I'd say anyone making a fuss about allowing GLBT people to say they're gay in a game is pretty intolerant, I think I'm spot on by calling them bigots.
You're uninformed about the controversy. No one has created a GLBT-only guild, and if they had, they would most likely have been disbanded by Blizzard. That's discrimination based on sexuality. However, you're welcome to join those guilds with the understanding that GLBTs are in the majority.
Similarly, an African-American-Friendly guild would be fine, as long as whites are welcome with the understanding that Blacks will comprise the majority of players within the guild. A Blacks-only guild should be disbanded as race is a criteria of membership.
Many things are a reaction to something else. You see GLBT identity as the core problem, but you don't propose a solution. How do you propose to eradicate the societal pressures that created GLBT identity in the first place?
Too many people are responding to this article in hysterics because Blizzard has changed its policy to revoke a ban on gay chat and overt sexual references in guild names and to allow descriptions of homosexual acts in public chat channels.
That's not the case now, nor has it ever been. Blizzared never banned gay chat in public channels, only insulting references to sexuality. And descriptions of sexual acts always have been, and continue to be, forbidden. The policy has not changed.
So before you have a freak out, you might want to read the posted policy. It's here:
Blizzards online realms, while privately owned, are considered a public accomodation under California law, and they are therefore forbidden from discriminating against any persons defined in state anti-discrimination statutes.
Blizzard's policy was not to forbid GLBT chat. It was to forbid insulting references to sexuality.
The implication that they were going to change their policy to forbid GLBT chat is what started this whole controversy, but in the end, they said that their policy is not changing.
Get that? Nothing's changed.
Finally, anyone who doesn't want to be subjected to certain things and objects so strongly should probably read all of Blizzards terms of use and policies before they click "I Accept" and pay their money.
But what really makes me laugh is that people like those in the thread parent are freaking out over a policy that has always been in place, and has never changed.
Don't be an idiot. No one's saying "we're here, we're queer" and the guilds in question are still not allowed to discriminate based on those type of criteria. Furthermore, guild names of the type you're proposing violate the terms of use. It's just like character names.
You might actually try to learn something about the issue before you start screaming that the sky is falling. It just makes you look like a fool.
After all maybe me refering to something bad as gay could be considered offensive enough to report now. While perhaps someone of GLBT persuasion could make lewd sex act refrences but be impossible to report because that would be crippling there freedom. I dont know because we no long have simple universal rules anymore.
All your woe and dispare is kinda foolish because what the COO (not CEO, as the title says) said is that the rule never changed, and still hasn't. He's saying punishing someone for saying "GLBT" in game was not an appropriate response.
And yes, saying "gay" when you mean "bad" was always punishable, and should continue to be. But if you actually read the Blizzard policies on harrassment, you'd know that descriptions of sexual acts are, and continue to be, forbidden.
I can't tell if you're a troll, or just not very intelligent. Either way, you seem to be reacting based on bias rather than reason or logic, and that doesn't speak very well of you, either.
The argument that all mention of real life "issues" in-game should be forbidden strikes me as the argument of a hard-core role-player. If you're saying, "I don't want to hear about anything that happens on your side of the keyboard, ever," that's fine, that's just role-playing. It would be nice if you stated you're an RPer, but we'll forgive you that omission.
But if you're saying "I don't want to hear about things I personnaly find icky on your side of the keyboard," then you're probably a hypocrite if you've mentioned - even once - that your wife has dinner ready, that your homework is due, or that you have to work in two hours and still haven't slept.
Why? Some people don't want to know you have a wife because they think wives emasculate their husbands. Some people don't like young players. And some people look down on those who have to work for a living.
If you don't want some players to tell you about some aspects of their lives, you're a hypocrite if you divulge any aspects of yours.
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So when it comes right down to it, what gay dudes want is to hook up with straight dudes, and they won't rest until the straight dudes are down with it. Whoa. I thought it more complicated than that.
Both the gay guilds I play in have several heterosexuals as members. At first, I just wished they didn't have to constantly throw their sexuality in my face, ya know? They're always like, "My wife this, my girlfriend that." Ugh.
But after a while, I realized it's kinda cool to have a straight person in your guild. You can learn a lot about straight life from them. And they're not all boring, either. Some of them are really bright, funny, and creative. In the end, you find out they're not so bad, after all. In a lot of ways, they're just like we are!
The problem is that silencing "sensitive real-world subjects" punishes minorities. Minorities are always "sensitive." Furthermore, it punishes the victim, not the harasser. It's roughly equivalent to saying that because a woman wears a short skirt, she deserves to be raped. Do women who wear provocative clothing deserve rape? I, at least, would say no. And I don't think that women who wear short skirts should be punished and forced to wear unattractive clothing as a means to protect them from rape. I also think it's wrong to say that because someone mentions that they're gay that they've invited harrassment. And it's no more appropriate to punish gay people who mention their sexuality than it is to force women to wear pants.
Given that, it's kinda hard to make a sound argument that Blizzard is now allowing guilds to pick and choose who may and may not join based on things like race, sexuality, etc. On the contrary, they're quite insistent that you're not permitted to do that.
As such, promoting guilds that discriminate is still a violation. Promoting special interest guilds that are inclusive is not. It's a subtle difference, but it's also significant. It's significant because at least in theory, you should be able to announce a heterosexual white-male friendly guild, just so long as it's inclusive. And that means permitting members who happen to be homosexual black females.
I don't see how that's a double-standard. You could also be warned for saying "digusting heterosexuals." Both are a violation of the policy against insulting people's sexuality. I don't see how that's a double-standard. Math is hard. This isn't.
Intolerance of football scores and intolerance of people are two completely different things. That's really quite laughable to compare them. But what I hear you saying is that you're a role player, and you want other people to role play, too. At least in theory, that means you don't mention your child, your injury, your local weather, or anything that exists on your side of the screen. Supposing you're playing such games on role playing servers, it's completely reasonable you'd be making such requests of other players. Of course, if you're not playing on role playing servers or you actually do share details of your real life world - ever - you've got no ground to set those kinds of expectations for other players.
I don't think you actually read the rules, did you? You should try it. They're pretty clearly spelled out. Be sure to read the whole thing, or you'll miss the point. http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01719 p
True, dat. You're right. Bigotry is not defined as a preference to not hear about aspects of other people you find distasteful. It is defined by intolerance. I'd say anyone making a fuss about allowing GLBT people to say they're gay in a game is pretty intolerant, I think I'm spot on by calling them bigots.
You're uninformed about the controversy. No one has created a GLBT-only guild, and if they had, they would most likely have been disbanded by Blizzard. That's discrimination based on sexuality. However, you're welcome to join those guilds with the understanding that GLBTs are in the majority. Similarly, an African-American-Friendly guild would be fine, as long as whites are welcome with the understanding that Blacks will comprise the majority of players within the guild. A Blacks-only guild should be disbanded as race is a criteria of membership. Many things are a reaction to something else. You see GLBT identity as the core problem, but you don't propose a solution. How do you propose to eradicate the societal pressures that created GLBT identity in the first place?
Too many people are responding to this article in hysterics because Blizzard has changed its policy to revoke a ban on gay chat and overt sexual references in guild names and to allow descriptions of homosexual acts in public chat channels.
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That's not the case now, nor has it ever been. Blizzared never banned gay chat in public channels, only insulting references to sexuality. And descriptions of sexual acts always have been, and continue to be, forbidden. The policy has not changed.
So before you have a freak out, you might want to read the posted policy. It's here:
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm0171
You have your facts wrong.
Blizzards online realms, while privately owned, are considered a public accomodation under California law, and they are therefore forbidden from discriminating against any persons defined in state anti-discrimination statutes.
Blizzard's policy was not to forbid GLBT chat. It was to forbid insulting references to sexuality.
The implication that they were going to change their policy to forbid GLBT chat is what started this whole controversy, but in the end, they said that their policy is not changing.
Get that? Nothing's changed.
Finally, anyone who doesn't want to be subjected to certain things and objects so strongly should probably read all of Blizzards terms of use and policies before they click "I Accept" and pay their money.
But what really makes me laugh is that people like those in the thread parent are freaking out over a policy that has always been in place, and has never changed.
That just means the majority of people are bigots, right? So if bigots are the majority, that makes it OK?
Don't be an idiot. No one's saying "we're here, we're queer" and the guilds in question are still not allowed to discriminate based on those type of criteria. Furthermore, guild names of the type you're proposing violate the terms of use. It's just like character names.
You might actually try to learn something about the issue before you start screaming that the sky is falling. It just makes you look like a fool.
Can I have your stuff?
The argument that all mention of real life "issues" in-game should be forbidden strikes me as the argument of a hard-core role-player. If you're saying, "I don't want to hear about anything that happens on your side of the keyboard, ever," that's fine, that's just role-playing. It would be nice if you stated you're an RPer, but we'll forgive you that omission.
But if you're saying "I don't want to hear about things I personnaly find icky on your side of the keyboard," then you're probably a hypocrite if you've mentioned - even once - that your wife has dinner ready, that your homework is due, or that you have to work in two hours and still haven't slept.
Why? Some people don't want to know you have a wife because they think wives emasculate their husbands. Some people don't like young players. And some people look down on those who have to work for a living.
If you don't want some players to tell you about some aspects of their lives, you're a hypocrite if you divulge any aspects of yours.