In the UK there has been a history of abuse by the police of DNA samples that they have taken in such situations, now they're permanently on a DNA database that is very hard to get off.
Which will be my reason for declining to participate in any dragnet in the UK.
If the police arrest me to force a DNA test, the shit will truly hit the fan.
No, it would mean that DNA is not a positive test for guilt.
It can be a positive test for innocence: If my DNA markers differ from that of sperm found in a rape victim then I didn't rape her.
A positive DNA test seems reasonable grounds for further investigation, but is not in itself sufficient evidence of guilt. Even if they tested the full length of DNA (and they don't even get close) there have been many examples of contamination that invalidates results.
So I'll assume you learned about the game through word of mouth and took the bus to a retail store to buy the boxed game.
How fucking young are you?
Yes. Yes, that's how we used to do it. Yes, that's still possible. Yes, that's exactly what I did to acquire the game in question.
Sorry, your point?
Please prepend the following to each of my previous replies to you: "For the vast majority of home users..."
Prevent access to material via ports 80 and 443 will lead to them being accessed via other ports. Hence the need to shut down every available port if you really want to stop this.
Oh, I'm sorry. Hadn't realised you had first-hand knowledge of the exact "compartments" in his soles.
Do please share, in what way were they abnormal, suspicious and otherwise worthy of being detained and charged in a country renowned for the injustice of its court system?
Blocking porn on the web does not prevent use of the web to find NNTP servers.
There are other non-web ways to find them as well. For instance, I can log into Steam and ask my friends, or ask people in other non-web based online communities. I can use email.
The internet is indeed a multi-faceted resource, and although in practice people often use the web as a convenience factor, it's not essential. It's also not prevented from being used by a block on certain content.
Somehow I'm struggling with the concept of buying a Google branded phone with Google services and then calling the Google apps junk. I noticed that you didn't mention Google Maps, is that maybe because you like maps and as such think everything is junk because you don't use it?
Just because he thinks a different set of the default apps is junk to you isn't pertinent. What he has a problem with is the inability to uninstall them.
I sympathise, my Transformer Infinity keeps trying to update some shit proprietary malware called Kindle that I can't uninstall.
Yeah, I'm on the "Don't block anything" list. I also run an open hotspot which has the side effect that the kids next door can ignore their parents' controls if they want to.
I haven't told them this; it's their own fault if they don't learn how to subvert authority.
Interestingly when I switched phone to Virgin Media a couple of weeks back they didn't ask me. Hmm. Yep, filter in place... and gone. One quick phone call.
I'd prefer not to, but at least it's possible. Unlike Sky and their fuckwit demand for a PIN code to watch a film in a household containing no children and no vulnerable adults (unless I qualify; possible).
I wouldn't force families to be atheist. I would punish child abuse, which includes brainwashing them to believe in artificial constructs designed to control and exploit them.
You are advocating an end to freedom of thought -- forcing your personal beliefs on everyone.
Was he? He believes that people should be able to make a decision for themselves, not be indoctrinated into a belief system that they never had the chance to question and refuse.
Funny you write that, since the SE moniker didn't even exist as an option until about 15 years ago or so. Before that all software was written by CS people
Funny you write that, since I'm working with people that wrote a system forty years ago that's still in production use now.
I'm working with different people that wrote a different system 25 years ago that's still in production use now.
I've worked in the past with people that wrote a system 33 years ago that's still in production use now.
Not a single fucking computer scientist amongst them.
And yet all of this ignores one key truth: You don't graduate as a software engineer.
You wouldn't put a graduate in Civil Engineering in charge of building a bridge. You wouldn't put a graduate in Software Engineering in charge of building a non-trivial piece of software.
You give both a thorough grounding in the professional approaches, the chance to work with more experienced practitioners, and a chance to translate their academic skills into real ones.
In that context, the degree is pretty fucking irrelevant. You can learn software engineering on the job. It just happens to be quicker and easier if you know how to program first.
Software engineering to me is much like non-software engineering: It's about repeatable outcomes.
Applying the knowledge that's out there, choosing the correct approach, factoring in the constraints and future needs, then delivering something that works.
So nothing like computer science, and fuck all to do with wordpress.
Yes, but a fish residing in your ear living off your brainwaves and paying its way by translating inbound sound is far more interesting and emotionally engaging than an electromechanical device that you have to carry around.
Doesn't need its batteries changing either.
Then consider this: People have experience of machine translation. It's surprisingly good, but despite that, it sucks.
The Babel Fish works. Of course you're going to aspire towards it.
Such amazing progress that my credit card company's telephony system still can't recognise me saying individual digits, 'yes' and 'jesus fucking christ will you put me through to a fucking human before I drive to your offices with a can of petrol and a flare gun'
Bad enough that your teenager might wreck your classic sports car
However, if his friend does it you get a truly great movie.
Regarding the court decision, it sounds at the headline level to be very sensible. Parental responsibility has to have boundaries, and the parents seem to have taken reasonable steps.
This should never have reached court in the first place. Revise copyright laws, etc.
Except that it's the demographics that make the difference, not the race. How about changing the measurement mechanism to reflect the wealth, social opportunities, cultural background and family support of the children, not their skin colour?
While McCrae evoked the underlying meaning of the poppy in this context, its use as a symbol of remembrance was drawn from the resultant poem "We Shall Keep The Faith" by Miss Moira Bell Michael:
Oh! You who sleep in Flandersâ(TM) fields, Sleep sweet â" to rise anew; We caught the torch you threw; And holding high we kept The faith with those who died. We cherish, too, the Poppy red That grows on fields where valour led. It seems to signal to the skies That blood of heroes never dies, But lends a lustre to the red Of the flower that blooms above the dead In Flandersâ(TM) Fields. And now the torch and poppy red Wear in honour of our dead Fear not that ye have died for naught Weâ(TM)ve learned the lesson that ye taught In Flandersâ(TM) Fields.
Regarding your thoughts on neutrality,
The poppy means different things to different people (which I suppose backs up your "neutral" attribution), but I think for a lot of people it's about "our" soldiers, not "their" soldiers or civilians. And for many it's not just about remembering their loss, but about rationalising those deaths as "sacrifice".
I accept that's the case. Perhaps I should have written that the poppy is _perceived_ as being neutral, and an overt challenge to that perception of neutrality is what caused a strong reaction.
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Yeah, I just couldn't be bothered caveating my example. Sorry.
At least one study agrees with you:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01542085?LI=true#page-1
In the UK there has been a history of abuse by the police of DNA samples that they have taken in such situations, now they're permanently on a DNA database that is very hard to get off.
Which will be my reason for declining to participate in any dragnet in the UK.
If the police arrest me to force a DNA test, the shit will truly hit the fan.
No, it would mean that DNA is not a positive test for guilt.
It can be a positive test for innocence: If my DNA markers differ from that of sperm found in a rape victim then I didn't rape her.
A positive DNA test seems reasonable grounds for further investigation, but is not in itself sufficient evidence of guilt. Even if they tested the full length of DNA (and they don't even get close) there have been many examples of contamination that invalidates results.
So I'll assume you learned about the game through word of mouth and took the bus to a retail store to buy the boxed game.
How fucking young are you?
Yes. Yes, that's how we used to do it. Yes, that's still possible. Yes, that's exactly what I did to acquire the game in question.
Sorry, your point?
Please prepend the following to each of my previous replies to you: "For the vast majority of home users..."
Prevent access to material via ports 80 and 443 will lead to them being accessed via other ports. Hence the need to shut down every available port if you really want to stop this.
Examples: NNTP. FTP. Napster. Kazaa. Tor. Bittorrent.
All used by a vast number of home users. Cut off access to porn on port 80 and watch the use of alternate protocols rise.
I may be an edge case but you're such a geek you can't see the real world.
Oh, I'm sorry. Hadn't realised you had first-hand knowledge of the exact "compartments" in his soles.
Do please share, in what way were they abnormal, suspicious and otherwise worthy of being detained and charged in a country renowned for the injustice of its court system?
Blocking porn would require blocking port 443 entirely
Ah, you're talking about effective blocking. Blocking 443 wouldn't help either, you'd have to block ports 1..65535
How'd you find Steam?
It came with a game I bought. Installed the disc, and it demanded to install Steam.
How'd you find those communities?
How do I put this.. I was in four of them before Marc Andreeson decided to have a bash at this thing called Mosaic.
Blocking porn on the web does not prevent use of the web to find NNTP servers.
There are other non-web ways to find them as well. For instance, I can log into Steam and ask my friends, or ask people in other non-web based online communities. I can use email.
The internet is indeed a multi-faceted resource, and although in practice people often use the web as a convenience factor, it's not essential. It's also not prevented from being used by a block on certain content.
They specifically stated there were hollow compartments in the insoles.
Sure, because nobody has hollow compartments in their shoes.
http://www.nisbets.co.uk/Air-Cushioned-Sole-Shoe/A821-42/ProductDetail.raction is just the first of around 27 million results on Google.
Somehow I'm struggling with the concept of buying a Google branded phone with Google services and then calling the Google apps junk. I noticed that you didn't mention Google Maps, is that maybe because you like maps and as such think everything is junk because you don't use it?
Just because he thinks a different set of the default apps is junk to you isn't pertinent. What he has a problem with is the inability to uninstall them.
I sympathise, my Transformer Infinity keeps trying to update some shit proprietary malware called Kindle that I can't uninstall.
Yeah, I'm on the "Don't block anything" list. I also run an open hotspot which has the side effect that the kids next door can ignore their parents' controls if they want to.
I haven't told them this; it's their own fault if they don't learn how to subvert authority.
Interestingly when I switched phone to Virgin Media a couple of weeks back they didn't ask me. Hmm. Yep, filter in place... and gone. One quick phone call.
I'd prefer not to, but at least it's possible. Unlike Sky and their fuckwit demand for a PIN code to watch a film in a household containing no children and no vulnerable adults (unless I qualify; possible).
I wouldn't force families to be atheist. I would punish child abuse, which includes brainwashing them to believe in artificial constructs designed to control and exploit them.
You are advocating an end to freedom of thought -- forcing your personal beliefs on everyone.
Was he? He believes that people should be able to make a decision for themselves, not be indoctrinated into a belief system that they never had the chance to question and refuse.
How would blocking porn prevent you finding a NNTP provider?
Oh heck, don't go confusing things by bringing art into it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Computer_Programming
Funny you write that, since the SE moniker didn't even exist as an option until about 15 years ago or so. Before that all software was written by CS people
Funny you write that, since I'm working with people that wrote a system forty years ago that's still in production use now.
I'm working with different people that wrote a different system 25 years ago that's still in production use now.
I've worked in the past with people that wrote a system 33 years ago that's still in production use now.
Not a single fucking computer scientist amongst them.
And yet all of this ignores one key truth: You don't graduate as a software engineer.
You wouldn't put a graduate in Civil Engineering in charge of building a bridge. You wouldn't put a graduate in Software Engineering in charge of building a non-trivial piece of software.
You give both a thorough grounding in the professional approaches, the chance to work with more experienced practitioners, and a chance to translate their academic skills into real ones.
In that context, the degree is pretty fucking irrelevant. You can learn software engineering on the job. It just happens to be quicker and easier if you know how to program first.
Software engineering to me is much like non-software engineering: It's about repeatable outcomes.
Applying the knowledge that's out there, choosing the correct approach, factoring in the constraints and future needs, then delivering something that works.
So nothing like computer science, and fuck all to do with wordpress.
Two people in the world are needed to determine which approach is faster, and one of those is just error-checking the results of the other.
Software engineers can then use that knowledge to build working software.
Computer scientists don't make the best programmers. (Physicists do).
Kids have to have the space to do bad things from time to time.
I don't want mindless drones, I want inquisitive experimental people that aren't afraid to try things and have no fear of getting it wrong.
Enabling transgression of the established order is almost essential to building that mindset.
Yes, but a fish residing in your ear living off your brainwaves and paying its way by translating inbound sound is far more interesting and emotionally engaging than an electromechanical device that you have to carry around.
Doesn't need its batteries changing either.
Then consider this: People have experience of machine translation. It's surprisingly good, but despite that, it sucks.
The Babel Fish works. Of course you're going to aspire towards it.
Such amazing progress that my credit card company's telephony system still can't recognise me saying individual digits, 'yes' and 'jesus fucking christ will you put me through to a fucking human before I drive to your offices with a can of petrol and a flare gun'
Bad enough that your teenager might wreck your classic sports car
However, if his friend does it you get a truly great movie.
Regarding the court decision, it sounds at the headline level to be very sensible. Parental responsibility has to have boundaries, and the parents seem to have taken reasonable steps.
This should never have reached court in the first place. Revise copyright laws, etc.
Except that it's the demographics that make the difference, not the race. How about changing the measurement mechanism to reflect the wealth, social opportunities, cultural background and family support of the children, not their skin colour?
School test scores measure the community demographics, NOT quality of education.
And you're asking me what a better mechanism is?
While McCrae evoked the underlying meaning of the poppy in this context, its use as a symbol of remembrance was drawn from the resultant poem "We Shall Keep The Faith" by Miss Moira Bell Michael:
Oh! You who sleep in Flandersâ(TM) fields,
Sleep sweet â" to rise anew;
We caught the torch you threw;
And holding high we kept
The faith with those who died.
We cherish, too, the Poppy red
That grows on fields where valour led.
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies,
But lends a lustre to the red
Of the flower that blooms above the dead
In Flandersâ(TM) Fields.
And now the torch and poppy red
Wear in honour of our dead
Fear not that ye have died for naught
Weâ(TM)ve learned the lesson that ye taught
In Flandersâ(TM) Fields.
Regarding your thoughts on neutrality,
The poppy means different things to different people (which I suppose backs up your "neutral" attribution), but I think for a lot of people it's about "our" soldiers, not "their" soldiers or civilians. And for many it's not just about remembering their loss, but about rationalising those deaths as "sacrifice".
I accept that's the case. Perhaps I should have written that the poppy is _perceived_ as being neutral, and an overt challenge to that perception of neutrality is what caused a strong reaction.