Granted there is a limit, but the average consumer doesn't have 5 PC's. If you make some kind of mistake and authorize too many PC's and can't deauthorize one or more of them for whatever reason then you do have the ability to reset your authorizations. You can burn the files to CD as many times as you want. There is a limit to the number of times you can burn a play list that contains DRM's music. I believe that limit is 10, but if you need to burn more than that the solution is pretty easy. Use another program to burn additional copies of the CD. Alternatively you could delete the play list and recreate it. DRM is a fact of life forced on Apple by the RIAA. If you don't like the rules, go buy the CD instead. Apple offers a service. You can get only the tracks you want, almost instantly, at $0.99 cents a track and in exchange for that service you agree to some rules. They don't force you to buy their music.
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Do you want to have my nick? (it suits you far more then it does me!)
I'll email you the password if you promise here that you will only post under this nick from now on:-)
I agree that the stress of it all is taking a toll, but it's not the long hours, nor the unpaid overtime, nor the paucity of holidays -- it's the stress. The stress, anxiety, and depression are causing unnecessary strain on our bodies and minds and fostering the root causes of illness (not causing illnesses themselves, but creating conditions of susceptibility).
Have you considered that with more holidays, time off, etc, you have time to allow your stress levels to subside?
1) The average person does not have the time to read a 4000 line EULA every time they make a purchase.
2) The footer of that EULA reads: Last updated October 7, 2005, but makes no mention of what the updates were. Nice.
I'm far less encumbered now than I ever was. I can play my music in any car, hook up to any sound system, and stream music to other rooms. From my point of view, I'm better off than when I used CDs. By a long shot.
What? You jumped straight from 8 track to DRMed AAC did you? I fail to see how any of the things you mention are more encumbered using CDs (or mp3s) over DRMed AAC.
You're quite right, there's loads of cool things to see & do in the US.
However - the main reason people in other parts of the world travel is to go and experience a different culture - that's something you're not really going to get in your own country.
The main reason Americans don't travel is because they know virtually nothing about the world outside of the US & everyone fears the unkown.
(Oh, and honestly, drop the "World's Best National Parks" in favour of "some of the most fantastic National Parks in the world").
Yes, but you know what you are getting into when you buy iTunes.
I do, you presumably do, but not everyone does.
With MS Word, there's no choice, because of monopoly.
No choice? What about OO.org? What you mean is no choice if you have existing documents (the same as someone with an ITMS AAC collection who decides to convert to freeBSD)
Oh - and word was not the MS monopoly, Windows was.
If you want to buy movies, then you have to buy DVD.
Or a video. DVDs do not constitute a monopoly.
Protected PDF, WMA and Fairplay fall into another category.
No they don't, because none of your other examples were monopolies either.
There are other solutions. You don't like iTunes? Go buy the CD. Buy music from Real, or Napster, or listen to the radio.
What if you already have an iTunes music collection?
I don't think Corel released their specs for wordperfect files either.
So what? Corel's files are not protected by DRM - that's what we're talking about here ya?
The monopoly status is what changes the rules.
Maybe for you, but for many otherpeople, DRM is a monstrosity, made worse by a monopoly, but still a monstrosity without one.
It's not persecution... I don't think Steve has a taskforce specificaly to chase Linux users around with sticks (sorry the over use of that word gets to me).
Apple does not idly persecute F/OSS users, but your quote did not include the rest of my sentence:
Apple should not persecute F/OSS users for attempting to interoperate with their products.
Apple most certainly persecutes F/OSS users who attempt to interoperate with their products.
If you choose to buy from ITMS you know exactly what you are getting
You're quite right here - people should know what they're getting, but many don't. I wouldn't expect a linux user to start buying from iTunes, but think about people with large ITMS music collections who want to convert to linux (from windows naturally).
I don't mean to be harsh but we are talking about a recreational item here it's not like iTunes music and iPods serve a vital purpose.
You're right that itunes is a recreational item - I guess that means you agree that the deCSS authors should be prosecuted too.
I don't think it's a Free Software issue at all... even in France. It's Apple's product and technology - they can do whatever they please.
Interoperability with DRMed content is a Free Software issue. People want to be able to read Word files, Protected Adobe PDFs, watch DVDs, listen to WMAs or Fairplayed AAC, etc etc etc.
If their product became a monopoly.. then, maybe the specs for inter-operation to be dislosed. And unlike MS, Apple hasn't used any illegal means to obtain leading market share.
Saying they're not a monopoly is a strawman, I wasn't arguing that at all.
Why didn't the submitter go with the more trollish (and lets face it, the comments will decsend to this level in a few seconds) headline the inquirer took: French committee surrenders on DRM law
Let's all remember that while we would normally blindly follow Apple's lead in this, it is a Free software issue as well as being an Apple (yay) vs France (boo) issue.
Like Microsoft (with word documents, SMB, etc), or Adobe (with encrypted PDFs), Apple should not persecute F/OSS users for attempting to interoperate with their products.
Not to mention that there are trace elements essential to health that are only naturally available in sufficient concentrations in meat. This being why you need to take pill suppliments if you go vegan.
You forgot the middle ground. There is no dietary deficiencies in a well balanced lacto-ovo vegetarian diet.
The vast majority of people would prefer a non-vegetarian diet, but would be healthier if they greatly reduced (without eliminating) the amount of meat they eat.
Although it's clear humans are omnivores, you really picked a silly example to use for calling the poster stupid. My finger nails make better 'claws' than my canines make, well, canines.
I didn't mean that we still use canines to rip the throats out of GNUs on the serengeti - just the fact that canines exists shows that we've evolved with meat as some portion of out diet.
The difference in exercise however is quite large. Soley due to the fact that public transportation is much more common and you have to at least get off your backside to walk to the station.
Good point.
The amount of time people spend sitting in traffic breathing filtered exhaust fumes is probably also a contributing factor to the high cancer rates seen in the US too.
Hmmmmmn, that is a most interesting essay, thanks.
I tend to agree - I've long thought that a reduction in working hours would lead to an explosion in creatitivity (and inventiveness) that would benefit society as a whole.
Pointing to the waste in Europe's production capacities during the wars is an example I've never thought of using - its a great one.
I don't think that (in bold) [unpaid overtime] reeeaally makes a difference, though I didn't realise the numbers - only 10 days annual leave? That's crazy!! No wonder most American's don't have passports - how do they get time to travel?!
Unpaid overtime is a problem - because employers are far more likely to ask (or apply pressure on) employees to work overtime if they don't have to pay for it.
And yes, America's short vacation times (combined with the US's distance from everywhere else) is one of the major reasons most Americans don't travel overseas. It's also a reason (and the same holds true for the Japanese) that they prefer to travel in tour groups.
That info is useless. What's the average time off for a worker in the US vs. one in the UK?
Useless? I think minimum time off is certainly a factor. If you disagree, why not go & search for the information you're after and post it here?
Anyway, I can't find the exact statistics you're asking for, but this Wikipedia article on the working week says the USA has a working year of 1777 hours vs UK's 1652. That's more than a three week difference (on a 40 hour week - 3 1/2 weeks for the French).
Remember it's been shown by many studies that humans are vegetarian primates, so eating meat is just going against nature, you may as well be eating steel or plastic for all the good it will do to your body!
Let me preface my remarks by saying that I too am a vegetarian & that yes, overconsumption of meat is indeed one of the causes of the US's chronic health problems.
However, go and look in your mouth - see the canines there? The notion that humans are not well adapted to an omnivorous diet is a stupid one.
Also - saying "going against nature" (whether said by people like you or people arguing that eating meat is 'natural') makes no sense in this day & age - the life you lead is no more natural then the life of a bird in a cage.
NHS in the UK where if you are ill you might be waiting YEARS for treatment, so people die before they are treated so never go on the list of people being sick.
I often visit the UK & am aware that the NHS is far from perfect.
However, I'd like to see some links backing up your assertion that you have to wait years for life-threatening procedures.
Have a look at table 8 in this report on industrial relations.
Statutory minimum annual leave plus public holidays
UK: 28 days (four weeks + public holidays) US: 10 days (0 weeks + public holidays)
US's work culture of long working days, unpaid overtime & too few holidays is killing you. Add to that the stress of the burden of health care falling on individuals and you have the sort of mess tfa talks about.
No doubt many other people are going to write in talking about "fat americans" being the problem - and its true that nutrition in America is a serious problem, but the comparison is to England, so not the cause of the differences.
Personally, I work on average 8 months a year and spend the rest of the time travelling - I am rarely stressed and almost never sick.
. Is it the case that the more correct you are about word processor usage, the closer you get to HTML/CSS? Should we just skip word processors and use that or LaTex?
Find me a wysiwyg html/css editor (that outputs nice clean css/html after being edited by 5 people) that my secretary can use (he's a liquid-paper on the screen type) and I'll support that.
It would be nice if we were all using CSS/html - but for knocking out quick documents word processors are far easier (even doing things the laborious way this guy suggests)
Seriously dude, the reason I reacted the way I did was because of your overlt agressive attitude towards me. Act nicer to people, point out their mistakes in a nice way & you won't get the sort of attitude (you undoubtedly get) all the time.
Granted there is a limit, but the average consumer doesn't have 5 PC's. If you make some kind of mistake and authorize too many PC's and can't deauthorize one or more of them for whatever reason then you do have the ability to reset your authorizations. You can burn the files to CD as many times as you want. There is a limit to the number of times you can burn a play list that contains DRM's music. I believe that limit is 10, but if you need to burn more than that the solution is pretty easy. Use another program to burn additional copies of the CD. Alternatively you could delete the play list and recreate it. DRM is a fact of life forced on Apple by the RIAA. If you don't like the rules, go buy the CD instead. Apple offers a service. You can get only the tracks you want, almost instantly, at $0.99 cents a track and in exchange for that service you agree to some rules. They don't force you to buy their music.
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Do you want to have my nick? (it suits you far more then it does me!)
I'll email you the password if you promise here that you will only post under this nick from now on
Interesting reply - thanks.
I agree that the stress of it all is taking a toll, but it's not the long hours, nor the unpaid overtime, nor the paucity of holidays -- it's the stress. The stress, anxiety, and depression are causing unnecessary strain on our bodies and minds and fostering the root causes of illness (not causing illnesses themselves, but creating conditions of susceptibility).
Have you considered that with more holidays, time off, etc, you have time to allow your stress levels to subside?
I don't understand how a place that people always complain is full with apple fanboys has such a an incorect post about apple rated so high...
Because for the most part, I've neutered the Mac Fanboys with mod points.
Read the EULA specifically clause 20.
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/legal/terms. html
1) The average person does not have the time to read a 4000 line EULA every time they make a purchase.
2) The footer of that EULA reads: Last updated October 7, 2005, but makes no mention of what the updates were. Nice.
I'm far less encumbered now than I ever was. I can play my music in any car, hook up to any sound system, and stream music to other rooms. From my point of view, I'm better off than when I used CDs. By a long shot.
What? You jumped straight from 8 track to DRMed AAC did you? I fail to see how any of the things you mention are more encumbered using CDs (or mp3s) over DRMed AAC.
You're quite right, there's loads of cool things to see & do in the US.
However - the main reason people in other parts of the world travel is to go and experience a different culture - that's something you're not really going to get in your own country.
The main reason Americans don't travel is because they know virtually nothing about the world outside of the US & everyone fears the unkown.
(Oh, and honestly, drop the "World's Best National Parks" in favour of "some of the most fantastic National Parks in the world").
Can you honestly give a valid personal use reason why you would need to burn the same playlist of somebody else's music more than 10 times?
I believe the GP's point was that Apple changed the terms and conditions of what you could do with your music after the purchase was made.
But you're right of course - let's burn the heretic GP for his blasphemous anti-apple ways.
- or for that matter look in the mouth of a gorilla. It has some serious canines, but is totally vegetarian.
They're not totally vegetarian - they're mostly vegetarian. (although the non-vegetarian portion of their diet is insects, so your point is taken).
Yes, but you know what you are getting into when you buy iTunes.
I do, you presumably do, but not everyone does.
With MS Word, there's no choice, because of monopoly.
No choice? What about OO.org? What you mean is no choice if you have existing documents (the same as someone with an ITMS AAC collection who decides to convert to freeBSD)
Oh - and word was not the MS monopoly, Windows was.
If you want to buy movies, then you have to buy DVD.
Or a video. DVDs do not constitute a monopoly.
Protected PDF, WMA and Fairplay fall into another category.
No they don't, because none of your other examples were monopolies either.
There are other solutions. You don't like iTunes? Go buy the CD. Buy music from Real, or Napster, or listen to the radio.
What if you already have an iTunes music collection?
I don't think Corel released their specs for wordperfect files either.
So what? Corel's files are not protected by DRM - that's what we're talking about here ya?
The monopoly status is what changes the rules.
Maybe for you, but for many otherpeople, DRM is a monstrosity, made worse by a monopoly, but still a monstrosity without one.
Apple does not idly persecute F/OSS users, but your quote did not include the rest of my sentence:Apple most certainly persecutes F/OSS users who attempt to interoperate with their products.
If you choose to buy from ITMS you know exactly what you are getting
You're quite right here - people should know what they're getting, but many don't. I wouldn't expect a linux user to start buying from iTunes, but think about people with large ITMS music collections who want to convert to linux (from windows naturally).
I don't mean to be harsh but we are talking about a recreational item here it's not like iTunes music and iPods serve a vital purpose.
You're right that itunes is a recreational item - I guess that means you agree that the deCSS authors should be prosecuted too.
I don't think it's a Free Software issue at all... even in France. It's Apple's product and technology - they can do whatever they please.
Interoperability with DRMed content is a Free Software issue. People want to be able to read Word files, Protected Adobe PDFs, watch DVDs, listen to WMAs or Fairplayed AAC, etc etc etc.
If their product became a monopoly.. then, maybe the specs for inter-operation to be dislosed. And unlike MS, Apple hasn't used any illegal means to obtain leading market share.
Saying they're not a monopoly is a strawman, I wasn't arguing that at all.
*sighs*
Why didn't the submitter go with the more trollish (and lets face it, the comments will decsend to this level in a few seconds) headline the inquirer took: French committee surrenders on DRM law
Let's all remember that while we would normally blindly follow Apple's lead in this, it is a Free software issue as well as being an Apple (yay) vs France (boo) issue.
Like Microsoft (with word documents, SMB, etc), or Adobe (with encrypted PDFs), Apple should not persecute F/OSS users for attempting to interoperate with their products.
Not to mention that there are trace elements essential to health that are only naturally available in sufficient concentrations in meat. This being why you need to take pill suppliments if you go vegan.
You forgot the middle ground. There is no dietary deficiencies in a well balanced lacto-ovo vegetarian diet.
The vast majority of people would prefer a non-vegetarian diet, but would be healthier if they greatly reduced (without eliminating) the amount of meat they eat.
Yeah, they are so useful when biting into prey!
Although it's clear humans are omnivores, you really picked a silly example to use for calling the poster stupid. My finger nails make better 'claws' than my canines make, well, canines.
I didn't mean that we still use canines to rip the throats out of GNUs on the serengeti - just the fact that canines exists shows that we've evolved with meat as some portion of out diet.
go have a look in a panda's mouth. Lots of sharp canines, but you won't see many of them eating meat.
Just like us, Pandas are omnivorous (even if 99% of their diet is bamboo).
The difference in exercise however is quite large. Soley due to the fact that public transportation is much more common and you have to at least get off your backside to walk to the station.
Good point.
The amount of time people spend sitting in traffic breathing filtered exhaust fumes is probably also a contributing factor to the high cancer rates seen in the US too.
Hmmmmmn, that is a most interesting essay, thanks.
I tend to agree - I've long thought that a reduction in working hours would lead to an explosion in creatitivity (and inventiveness) that would benefit society as a whole.
Pointing to the waste in Europe's production capacities during the wars is an example I've never thought of using - its a great one.
I think you replied to the wrong post.
I don't think that (in bold) [unpaid overtime] reeeaally makes a difference, though I didn't realise the numbers - only 10 days annual leave? That's crazy!! No wonder most American's don't have passports - how do they get time to travel?!
Unpaid overtime is a problem - because employers are far more likely to ask (or apply pressure on) employees to work overtime if they don't have to pay for it.
And yes, America's short vacation times (combined with the US's distance from everywhere else) is one of the major reasons most Americans don't travel overseas. It's also a reason (and the same holds true for the Japanese) that they prefer to travel in tour groups.
That info is useless. What's the average time off for a worker in the US vs. one in the UK?
Useless? I think minimum time off is certainly a factor. If you disagree, why not go & search for the information you're after and post it here?
Anyway, I can't find the exact statistics you're asking for, but this Wikipedia article on the working week says the USA has a working year of 1777 hours vs UK's 1652. That's more than a three week difference (on a 40 hour week - 3 1/2 weeks for the French).
Remember it's been shown by many studies that humans are vegetarian primates, so eating meat is just going against nature, you may as well be eating steel or plastic for all the good it will do to your body!
Let me preface my remarks by saying that I too am a vegetarian & that yes, overconsumption of meat is indeed one of the causes of the US's chronic health problems.
However, go and look in your mouth - see the canines there? The notion that humans are not well adapted to an omnivorous diet is a stupid one.
Also - saying "going against nature" (whether said by people like you or people arguing that eating meat is 'natural') makes no sense in this day & age - the life you lead is no more natural then the life of a bird in a cage.
NHS in the UK where if you are ill you might be waiting YEARS for treatment, so people die before they are treated so never go on the list of people being sick.
I often visit the UK & am aware that the NHS is far from perfect.
However, I'd like to see some links backing up your assertion that you have to wait years for life-threatening procedures.
No doubt many other people are going to write in talking about "fat americans" being the problem - and its true that nutrition in America is a serious problem, but the comparison is to England, so not the cause of the differences.
Personally, I work on average 8 months a year and spend the rest of the time travelling - I am rarely stressed and almost never sick.
They absolutely do!
/. storys at +5 & you get relevent interesting comments.
Read the vast majority of
. Is it the case that the more correct you are about word processor usage, the closer you get to HTML/CSS? Should we just skip word processors and use that or LaTex?
Find me a wysiwyg html/css editor (that outputs nice clean css/html after being edited by 5 people) that my secretary can use (he's a liquid-paper on the screen type) and I'll support that.
It would be nice if we were all using CSS/html - but for knocking out quick documents word processors are far easier (even doing things the laborious way this guy suggests)
Looks like you got your 'troll' mod now!
Seriously dude, the reason I reacted the way I did was because of your overlt agressive attitude towards me. Act nicer to people, point out their mistakes in a nice way & you won't get the sort of attitude (you undoubtedly get) all the time.