By the time the US decided to enter the war, they were greatly diminished & couldn't be considered military equals by any strech of the imagination.
Assuming you mean a unilateral war, the furthest we need to go back is probably the Spanish-American war
Bzzzt! Wrong again - the Spanish were on the verge of civil war & in no way ready to fight a power like the US.
and if that still doesn't satisfy you then how about the War of 1812 against a clearly SUPERIOR opponent.
*shrugs* I knew someone would bring that up eventually - I'd like to thank operagost for admitting that the British are (in his words) "clearly superior" to the United states.
I hereby modify my statement to "(and arguably not for the last 200 years)"
Blue security seems to be causing pain to spammers, enough to get a rise out of them at least. Aren't they actually reflecting the spam back to the source? I think that was their tactic.
I'm not so sure - read the last paragraph of the article:
Neither Reshef nor TypePad's Sippey were comfortable talking about the technical details of the attack. Sippey said he did not believe it used the potent "DNS amplification" technique that emerged earlier this year.
It seems a little...vague.
I'm thinking there's at least the possibility that Blue Security's 'swamping' program is being used against them (hitting some innocent bystanders on the way).
Even if that's not the case here, it's certainly possible for someone malicious to subvert Blue Security's agent in such a manner.
I do agree with your post to a certain extent, but the US hasn't entered a hot war with an equivilant (or even close) power for over fifty years (and arguably never)
The hot wars of the future will be with countries like iraq, where the US can absolutely dominate in air & space.
This project seems more likely for cold/economic wars of the future. Think about the damage to the US economy if Chinese satellites rebroadcast everything that could be rebroadcast (from entertainment through economic/political/military secrets to proprietary source code/ blueprints/ etc).
The US has always used its military to protect its economy - there is no reason this project should be any different.
You think this is meant to prevent satellite-level file-sharing? Like the RIAA/MPAA would say the word, and the government would fire a laser to take out someone's private satellite?
To some extent yes, inspite of your sarcasm I do mean that.
A more likely scenario is to prevent the threat of Chinese distribution in the event of an Sino-US economic cold war.
If only we had not built the first atom bomb, no other nation in the world would have tried to do so.
I think perhaps you meant to say:
If only we had not been the first to use an atom bomb against a civilian population, and then built a further seventy thousand warheads no other nation in the world would have tried to do build atom bombs.
I mean for God's sake - you've now got 250 times the number of deployed nukes that China does.
Don't you think the way for the US to really ensure its population's security would be to try to track down the arsenal of the former USSR?
In interviews, military officials defended the laser research as prudent, given the potential need for space arms to defend American satellites against attack in the years and decades ahead. "The White House wants us to do space defense," said a senior Pentagon official who oversees many space programs, including the laser effort. "We need that ability to protect our assets" in orbit.
Just doesn't seem credible to me.
Far more likely it's to protect America's "intellectual property economy" when it's cheap enough for private individuals to launch their own satellites to disseminate information under any laws they see fit.
You apparently believe that an artist should voluntarily give up work that they created to satisfy your desire to get something for nothing.
Nope, I believe it's fine to copy something thirty years old. I didn't say the artist had to do anything.
As far as the gas analogy, it is perfectly valid.
No its not. In one case you deprive the owner of the object you take, in the other case, you don't deprive the owner of the object you copy.
I've seen Star Wars ep1 20+ times (at least five times in the cinema), on TV, rental vhs & rental dvd. I'm not going to buy it again (nor am I going to download it). If I did download it however, how would this cause Lucas harm?
There is no moral equivilance between stealing a physical item & copying a creative work.
And yes, showing one example does validate the study. It only takes one.
You didn't say validate the study - you said proves the validity of the study. There is a huge difference.
Wow. Dutch citiczen. UK government. Still US's fault.
Maybe you should have read the article before commenting:
[the boarding pass] would also serve as the perfect tool for demonstrating the chaotic collection, storage and security of personal information gathered as a result of America's near-fanatical desire to collect data on travellers flying to the US....
"The problem is that if the system doesn't have a lot of information on you, or you have ordered a halal meal, or have a name similar to a known terrorist, or even if you are a foreigner, you'll most likely be flagged amber and held back to be asked for further details" [emph mine]
WTF? I didn't think the US did racial profiling - this is quite sad for Muslims (as well as people like me, who just order different 'special' [I like kosher] meals at random). Not only that, it's not going to help fight terrorists, just irritate the law-abiding.
Gosh, one poster on/. proves the validity of of an extremely speculative study?
You're easy to make an impression on!
Just because you think Lucas has made enough money doesn't justify stealing his works.
No - I think that something that is thirty years old belongs in the public domain & the continual extensions of copyright is unjustly impoverishing the public domain.
I'm presuming you feel it's acceptable to fill your tank with gas and drive off without paying because the oil companies have made enough money.
I'm presuming you love to make childish analogies & enjoy projecting your prejudices on other's behavior. Let me explain it for you.
Taking Petrol deprives the petrol station of petrol, they can't sell the petrol you've taken to anyone else.
Copying a 20-30 year old work does not deprive the artist of that work. They've had plenty of opportunity to sell it & can continue to sell it.
Yes, many people will argue the latter case is bad - but anyone who believes it is the direct equivalent of the former is.... well... let just say I think your world outlook is probably simplistic (at best).
On a slightly more serious note, I think these guys can give up now...
And on a completely different note, please do not buy this download a high quality torrent instead. Seriously, I remember seeing TV ads for episodes 4-6 before the remastered edition came out saying "Last Chance to buy the trilogy." This was a lie then (as we got the remastered trilogy) and a bigger lie now. Tsk. Lucas has made enough money here allready.
Oh, also checkout original cantina footage (not only does hans shoot first, but greedo has an english accent)
hahahahaha - this is bigtallmofo's comment in 1986:
With apologies to all the microsoft fans out there, the software industry has changed the preferred O/S vendor several times in the past and it will change it again.
Just about every O/S company has now recognized microsoft for the threat it is and has declared an all out war against them. Basically, it's microsoft against everyone. In such cases, everyone usually wins. Unfortunately for microsoft, they should expect many more actions like IBM PC's being distributed with PC-DOS by default.
If I remember correctly, Yahoo! search engine used Google technology.
Yahoo used Google results for its searches between October 2002 & Feb 2004. They have used their own search engine (acquired with their purchase of Inktomi in 2003) ever since.
Summary is a troll - there is no mention of a 'merger' in the article text, just cooporation
Here is the article, so you don't have to sit through the silly flash into:
A Microsoft, Yahoo Tie-Up? MSN Veterans Want a Pact To Bolster Web-Search Ads And Better Challenge Google By ROBERT A. GUTH and KEVIN J. DELANEY May 3, 2006; Page C1
One faction within Microsoft Corp. is promoting a bold strategy in the company's battle with Google Inc: Join forces with Yahoo Inc.
That would be a major departure for Microsoft, the software maker that is legendary for toiling on its own until it captures a new market. However, people familiar with the situation say that Microsoft has considered the idea of acquiring a stake in Yahoo, and that the two companies have discussed possible options over the course of the past year.
Currently, talks of an equity stake in Yahoo don't appear to be active, given that Microsoft is focusing on a reorganization that it hopes will re-energize its effort to compete with Google, the fast-growing provider of search services and advertising.
Two wild cards remain: Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer, who has historically shunned large acquisitions, and Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang, whose support would be key to bringing the necessary Yahoo shareholders on board for a deal. Mr. Yang and others in Yahoo would be hard-pressed to sell to Microsoft, people close to the company say.
However, people familiar with Microsoft say its top management remains open to a deal with Yahoo as pressure grows to perform better against Google.
The increasing pressure on Microsoft -- not just from Google, but also from its own shareholders, as well as from advertisers that want an alternative to Google -- could help to justify the acquisition or some kind of business collaboration, these people say.
Since 2004, Microsoft has invested heavily to better compete with Google but it has yet to boost its share of search or online advertising. At the same time, Google has released products that some industry experts say could over time eat into Microsoft's core software businesses.
Microsoft executives say that they are investing for the long haul, and that the online-search market is still nascent and has much room for growth. A Microsoft spokesman declined to comment. A Yahoo spokeswoman declined to comment, saying the company doesn't discuss "rumors and speculation."
In one sign that Microsoft may be serious about major acquisitions, it has hired search-industry executive Steve Berkowitz to head MSN, the Internet unit that is building the Web-search business and is leading Microsoft's charge against Google, including Web search. Mr. Berkowitz, the former chief executive of search site Ask.com, is viewed as a likely deal maker at MSN, having completed more than 40 acquisitions in his career, according to a person close to the matter. He starts May 8. Mr. Berkowitz couldn't be reached for comment.
Microsoft's recent quarterly results provided a picture of the pressure it faces from Google. On Thursday, Microsoft said the MSN unit fell into the red and its revenue declined. Those numbers show it is failing to capture the same online-advertising tail wind that is helping Google. By contrast, Google's first-quarter net income rose 60% from a year earlier to $592 million. U.S. online advertising generally rose 30% to $12.5 billion last year, according to the Interactive Advertising Bureau trade group and consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Microsoft executives also said they will need to boost investments in online businesses in the next fiscal year to levels far higher than Wall Street had expected. That prompted an 11% selloff of Microsoft shares Friday. The stock has ticked lower this week. In 4 p.m. Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading, shares fell 1.2% to $24.01, after hitting a 52-week low during the day of $23.90.
At its core, the clash between Microsoft and Google centers on Microsoft's attempt to build up its We
For the record, Adobe openly publishes the specifications for encrypted PDFs. There is no technological or documentation difference between encrypted PDFs and PGP-encrypted emails or password-proteced zip files.
You are indeed right - I will drop Adobe from the list of companies (like Apple, Microsoft and Real) that actively discriminate against users of F/OSS software.
Drop the language barrier and the difference between France and Germany culturally, is about the same as between New England and the South in the US.
Thats right! (not sure how it relates to my comment tho')
When Germans travel, they tend to go to Spain, Croatia, Turkey & Italy (for the sun & the food). Not too sure about the French, but they're fairly similar in outlook to Americans, so they probably holiday in France (or corsica)
And anyway, I wasn't talking about Europe, I was talking about the rest of the world.
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NEVER? Were Japan and Germany pushovers?
By the time the US decided to enter the war, they were greatly diminished & couldn't be considered military equals by any strech of the imagination.
Assuming you mean a unilateral war, the furthest we need to go back is probably the Spanish-American war
Bzzzt! Wrong again - the Spanish were on the verge of civil war & in no way ready to fight a power like the US.
and if that still doesn't satisfy you then how about the War of 1812 against a clearly SUPERIOR opponent.
*shrugs* I knew someone would bring that up eventually - I'd like to thank operagost for admitting that the British are (in his words) "clearly superior" to the United states.
I hereby modify my statement to "(and arguably not for the last 200 years)"
I wish there was someway for me to use a fingerprint scanner or embedded RFID - that way I could get first post! ;-)
Has it really come to the stage where the word "socialist" is more of a fear word than "Nazi"?
Of course not - that's why I'm wondering why the OP used the expanded (and his version was actually incorrect) version of Nazi.
I'm not so sure - read the last paragraph of the article:It seems a little...vague.
I'm thinking there's at least the possibility that Blue Security's 'swamping' program is being used against them (hitting some innocent bystanders on the way).
Even if that's not the case here, it's certainly possible for someone malicious to subvert Blue Security's agent in such a manner.
Good first post :-)
I'm sorry if this first post (my first one on slashdot) offended someone around here,
Don't worry about offending people - it's just words (and our ancestors have died to protect our rights to free speech).
If anyone gets offended, they have the right to reply & debate. That way everyone learns something!
of one National Socialist German Labor Party nuke design.
Interesting that you don't just say "Nazi" - just have to throw the fear word "socialist" out there as often as possible hey?
Don't you think Putin ought to take nuclear security more seriously?
Of course - that does not invalidate my point however.
(The sarcasm was meant to be somewhat teasing, but not cruel. Apologies if feelings were bruised.)
Of course no feelings were bruised!
You can't be a whiney mac fanboy without having a thick skin!
Hmmmmn,
I do agree with your post to a certain extent, but the US hasn't entered a hot war with an equivilant (or even close) power for over fifty years (and arguably never)
The hot wars of the future will be with countries like iraq, where the US can absolutely dominate in air & space.
This project seems more likely for cold/economic wars of the future. Think about the damage to the US economy if Chinese satellites rebroadcast everything that could be rebroadcast (from entertainment through economic/political/military secrets to proprietary source code/ blueprints/ etc).
The US has always used its military to protect its economy - there is no reason this project should be any different.
You think this is meant to prevent satellite-level file-sharing? Like the RIAA/MPAA would say the word, and the government would fire a laser to take out someone's private satellite?
To some extent yes, inspite of your sarcasm I do mean that.
A more likely scenario is to prevent the threat of Chinese distribution in the event of an Sino-US economic cold war.
If only we had not built the first atom bomb, no other nation in the world would have tried to do so.
I think perhaps you meant to say:
If only we had not been the first to use an atom bomb against a civilian population, and then built a further seventy thousand warheads no other nation in the world would have tried to do build atom bombs.
I mean for God's sake - you've now got 250 times the number of deployed nukes that China does.
Don't you think the way for the US to really ensure its population's security would be to try to track down the arsenal of the former USSR?
Far more likely it's to protect America's "intellectual property economy" when it's cheap enough for private individuals to launch their own satellites to disseminate information under any laws they see fit.
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You apparently believe that an artist should voluntarily give up work that they created to satisfy your desire to get something for nothing.
Nope, I believe it's fine to copy something thirty years old. I didn't say the artist had to do anything.
As far as the gas analogy, it is perfectly valid.
No its not. In one case you deprive the owner of the object you take, in the other case, you don't deprive the owner of the object you copy.
I've seen Star Wars ep1 20+ times (at least five times in the cinema), on TV, rental vhs & rental dvd. I'm not going to buy it again (nor am I going to download it). If I did download it however, how would this cause Lucas harm?
There is no moral equivilance between stealing a physical item & copying a creative work.
And yes, showing one example does validate the study. It only takes one.
You didn't say validate the study - you said proves the validity of the study. There is a huge difference.
Maybe you should have read the article before commenting:
Thus proving the validity of this story.
/. proves the validity of of an extremely speculative study?
Gosh, one poster on
You're easy to make an impression on!
Just because you think Lucas has made enough money doesn't justify stealing his works.
No - I think that something that is thirty years old belongs in the public domain & the continual extensions of copyright is unjustly impoverishing the public domain.
I'm presuming you feel it's acceptable to fill your tank with gas and drive off without paying because the oil companies have made enough money.
I'm presuming you love to make childish analogies & enjoy projecting your prejudices on other's behavior. Let me explain it for you.
Taking Petrol deprives the petrol station of petrol, they can't sell the petrol you've taken to anyone else.
Copying a 20-30 year old work does not deprive the artist of that work. They've had plenty of opportunity to sell it & can continue to sell it.
Yes, many people will argue the latter case is bad - but anyone who believes it is the direct equivalent of the former is.... well... let just say I think your world outlook is probably simplistic (at best).
Everyone knows what the real classic star wars is ;-)
On a slightly more serious note, I think these guys can give up now...
And on a completely different note, please do not buy this download a high quality torrent instead. Seriously, I remember seeing TV ads for episodes 4-6 before the remastered edition came out saying "Last Chance to buy the trilogy." This was a lie then (as we got the remastered trilogy) and a bigger lie now. Tsk. Lucas has made enough money here allready.
Oh, also checkout original cantina footage (not only does hans shoot first, but greedo has an english accent)
Just a year ago (I'm 27 now), I went out and bought PlayDoh for just the smell.
In that case, you may be interested in bying a bottle of Play Doh Eau de Toilette.
This will make you (even more) popular with the ladies!
Awww don't do that, there are those of us that love your work!
;-)
Weeeelllll....
OK! Just because you asked so nicely, I will continue to fight the good fight
Well said sir!
If I remember correctly, Yahoo! search engine used Google technology.
Yahoo used Google results for its searches between October 2002 & Feb 2004. They have used their own search engine (acquired with their purchase of Inktomi in 2003) ever since.
Read all about it at Search Engine Watch
There's definitely a difference for some searches (and both are superior in my experience to MS's offering)
Summary is a troll - there is no mention of a 'merger' in the article text, just cooporation
Here is the article, so you don't have to sit through the silly flash into:
A Microsoft, Yahoo Tie-Up?
MSN Veterans Want a Pact
To Bolster Web-Search Ads
And Better Challenge Google
By ROBERT A. GUTH and KEVIN J. DELANEY
May 3, 2006; Page C1
One faction within Microsoft Corp. is promoting a bold strategy in the company's battle with Google Inc: Join forces with Yahoo Inc.
That would be a major departure for Microsoft, the software maker that is legendary for toiling on its own until it captures a new market. However, people familiar with the situation say that Microsoft has considered the idea of acquiring a stake in Yahoo, and that the two companies have discussed possible options over the course of the past year.
Currently, talks of an equity stake in Yahoo don't appear to be active, given that Microsoft is focusing on a reorganization that it hopes will re-energize its effort to compete with Google, the fast-growing provider of search services and advertising.
Two wild cards remain: Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer, who has historically shunned large acquisitions, and Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang, whose support would be key to bringing the necessary Yahoo shareholders on board for a deal. Mr. Yang and others in Yahoo would be hard-pressed to sell to Microsoft, people close to the company say.
However, people familiar with Microsoft say its top management remains open to a deal with Yahoo as pressure grows to perform better against Google.
The increasing pressure on Microsoft -- not just from Google, but also from its own shareholders, as well as from advertisers that want an alternative to Google -- could help to justify the acquisition or some kind of business collaboration, these people say.
Since 2004, Microsoft has invested heavily to better compete with Google but it has yet to boost its share of search or online advertising. At the same time, Google has released products that some industry experts say could over time eat into Microsoft's core software businesses.
Microsoft executives say that they are investing for the long haul, and that the online-search market is still nascent and has much room for growth. A Microsoft spokesman declined to comment. A Yahoo spokeswoman declined to comment, saying the company doesn't discuss "rumors and speculation."
In one sign that Microsoft may be serious about major acquisitions, it has hired search-industry executive Steve Berkowitz to head MSN, the Internet unit that is building the Web-search business and is leading Microsoft's charge against Google, including Web search. Mr. Berkowitz, the former chief executive of search site Ask.com, is viewed as a likely deal maker at MSN, having completed more than 40 acquisitions in his career, according to a person close to the matter. He starts May 8. Mr. Berkowitz couldn't be reached for comment.
Microsoft's recent quarterly results provided a picture of the pressure it faces from Google. On Thursday, Microsoft said the MSN unit fell into the red and its revenue declined. Those numbers show it is failing to capture the same online-advertising tail wind that is helping Google. By contrast, Google's first-quarter net income rose 60% from a year earlier to $592 million. U.S. online advertising generally rose 30% to $12.5 billion last year, according to the Interactive Advertising Bureau trade group and consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Microsoft executives also said they will need to boost investments in online businesses in the next fiscal year to levels far higher than Wall Street had expected. That prompted an 11% selloff of Microsoft shares Friday. The stock has ticked lower this week. In 4 p.m. Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading, shares fell 1.2% to $24.01, after hitting a 52-week low during the day of $23.90.
At its core, the clash between Microsoft and Google centers on Microsoft's attempt to build up its We
For the record, Adobe openly publishes the specifications for encrypted PDFs. There is no technological or documentation difference between encrypted PDFs and PGP-encrypted emails or password-proteced zip files.
You are indeed right - I will drop Adobe from the list of companies (like Apple, Microsoft and Real) that actively discriminate against users of F/OSS software.
Gosh - you're exactly right....
If you read everyone else in this thread, you'd believe PC is an IBM trademark & Apple's never used (and certainly not in the last 15 years!)
Thanks for your support.
Drop the language barrier and the difference between France and Germany culturally, is about the same as between New England and the South in the US.
Thats right! (not sure how it relates to my comment tho')
When Germans travel, they tend to go to Spain, Croatia, Turkey & Italy (for the sun & the food). Not too sure about the French, but they're fairly similar in outlook to Americans, so they probably holiday in France (or corsica)
And anyway, I wasn't talking about Europe, I was talking about the rest of the world.