No, the point of the story is that nobody knows shit, especially about how to do their jobs. If someone punches another employee in the face, and you can't get them fired, then you are the one that doesn't know how to do your job.
If your statement has anything to do with reality, then why was Henry Ford's example so extraordinary? If you had any kind of point, then why weren't all the employers around his time doing that?
Because you assume your privileged ass is the norm, so you decide that anything that benefits those that don't have it so great is unneeded. Pull your head out of your ass sometime, and you'll see that your situation is not the norm.
I mean, no one said the world was fair, nor that everyone starts out on the same level, some have it harder than others.
No, fuck that "those companies will invariably fail" bullshit. In the first place, it doesn't always happen. In the second place, that's allowing these companies to completely fuck over innocent workers for god knows how long until something might happen. Unionize those companies, and prevent them from fucking those people in the first place.
Once again wrong, Unions exist because of government. They enjoy all sorts of special legal protections.
Kinda like the entity on the other side of this discussion: The corporation?
If management is really abusive then employees will want to be part of a union and want the protection it offers
And take away those protections, and management will be able to fire anyone who thinks of joining the union.
The rest of your post is just anti-union bullshit. You take issue with unions working together for the benefit of their members, yet you apparently think that the company, and management, should be able to work together to keep their labor costs down, while forcing workers to negotiate against the entire company by themselves. That's not fair in the least.
Unions have almost no power already, and many states are working to cut what little they have left. The balance of power has swung hugely in the direction of the companies.
Says someone who's never given any thought to the actual politics behind the situation.
In order to hire someone with those skills, they need to pay huge amounts of money, to match the market wages. However, due to anger and legislation against "entitled government employees", suddenly those who work for government shouldn't be getting fair wages. Since they can't offer the market wages, they have to hire out contractors.
The problem with some of these "outrageous" expenses is that they never are given with any context. Why do they need such an expensive hammer, when a hammer is like $5 from Home Depot? As it turns out, the need for the expensive hammer is found in where it's used. The hammers were used in situations where gas might be around, like in gas tanks. Therefore, they needed hammers that could hammer without giving off any sparks.
The ONLY way that has a remote chance of being true is if you're in perfect health. And I'd be interested to hear how well that plan was at responding to actual claims.
Then you haven't checked in a long ass time. They're in charge of many of the state legislatures, and in many of those states as well, they hold the Governorship.
And yet, you still don't grasp the concept. You don't have the level of choice you're pretending you have with Android. You're trying to say I can choose from several different screen sizes. That's great, except it's not really a choice, as they're all different phones that behave quite differently.
No, we're arguing over support after purchase. And the fact remains that the iPhones have seen far, far, far greater support after purchase than just about any Android model.
Considering you're the one who sees the need to insult and berate people based on their choice of phone and OS, I'm guessing you've got the buyer's remorse.
My phone has 4g (Apple: 4g? What's that?) and gets 6mbps downstream and peaked out at a whopping 14mbps on one test. It's the network, not the phone people.
So you can get blazing speeds for all of an afternoon on their capped network?
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No, the point of the story is that nobody knows shit, especially about how to do their jobs. If someone punches another employee in the face, and you can't get them fired, then you are the one that doesn't know how to do your job.
Which is a GOOD thing, and should be required of ALL employers, not just government.
If your statement has anything to do with reality, then why was Henry Ford's example so extraordinary? If you had any kind of point, then why weren't all the employers around his time doing that?
To blame that entirely on the Teacher's Union is incredibly pathetic, and glosses over many of the real problems in education.
And this is my problem how?
Because you assume your privileged ass is the norm, so you decide that anything that benefits those that don't have it so great is unneeded. Pull your head out of your ass sometime, and you'll see that your situation is not the norm.
I mean, no one said the world was fair, nor that everyone starts out on the same level, some have it harder than others.
So we should continue trying to keep it unfair?
The 'conservatives' are trying to build a society that works when most people aren't 'working for the man' in a factory twelve hours a day.
No, that's exactly what the "conservatives" are fighting against. They want people working for the man for 12 hours a day.
Funny, your statement sounds like how a shitload of companies work, too.
The days of unsafe work conditions, very little safety equipment, 100 hour work weeks, no emergency exits, no bathroom breaks, etc are LOOOOONG gone.
Yeah, no. They are still very much with us, and are getting worse given the economic downturn we're experiencing.
No, fuck that "those companies will invariably fail" bullshit. In the first place, it doesn't always happen. In the second place, that's allowing these companies to completely fuck over innocent workers for god knows how long until something might happen. Unionize those companies, and prevent them from fucking those people in the first place.
Maybe "capitalism" shouldn't be the be-all end-all of what we strive for?
Yes, it is. Especially during economic downturns such as these.
Once again wrong, Unions exist because of government. They enjoy all sorts of special legal protections.
Kinda like the entity on the other side of this discussion: The corporation?
If management is really abusive then employees will want to be part of a union and want the protection it offers
And take away those protections, and management will be able to fire anyone who thinks of joining the union.
The rest of your post is just anti-union bullshit. You take issue with unions working together for the benefit of their members, yet you apparently think that the company, and management, should be able to work together to keep their labor costs down, while forcing workers to negotiate against the entire company by themselves. That's not fair in the least.
Unions have almost no power already, and many states are working to cut what little they have left. The balance of power has swung hugely in the direction of the companies.
The way contracts work in the government is that usually they have a specific contractor they want to use anyway.
This happens just as much in the private sector as well. They're just allowed to be more blatant about it.
Wow, that's a retarded view. Tell me, why should the government NOT be paying market wages for their contractors? Or any of their staff, really.
Says someone who's never given any thought to the actual politics behind the situation.
In order to hire someone with those skills, they need to pay huge amounts of money, to match the market wages. However, due to anger and legislation against "entitled government employees", suddenly those who work for government shouldn't be getting fair wages. Since they can't offer the market wages, they have to hire out contractors.
The problem with some of these "outrageous" expenses is that they never are given with any context. Why do they need such an expensive hammer, when a hammer is like $5 from Home Depot? As it turns out, the need for the expensive hammer is found in where it's used. The hammers were used in situations where gas might be around, like in gas tanks. Therefore, they needed hammers that could hammer without giving off any sparks.
The ONLY way that has a remote chance of being true is if you're in perfect health. And I'd be interested to hear how well that plan was at responding to actual claims.
Then you haven't checked in a long ass time. They're in charge of many of the state legislatures, and in many of those states as well, they hold the Governorship.
Read his comments. He's a fanboy.
And yet, you still don't grasp the concept. You don't have the level of choice you're pretending you have with Android. You're trying to say I can choose from several different screen sizes. That's great, except it's not really a choice, as they're all different phones that behave quite differently.
So you admit to being a completely illogical fanboy. Got it.
No, the point is you don't really have any choice. If I want the internals of a Galaxy SII, but with a smaller screen, I don't have a choice, do I?
No, we're arguing over support after purchase. And the fact remains that the iPhones have seen far, far, far greater support after purchase than just about any Android model.
Considering you're the one who sees the need to insult and berate people based on their choice of phone and OS, I'm guessing you've got the buyer's remorse.
My phone has 4g (Apple: 4g? What's that?) and gets 6mbps downstream and peaked out at a whopping 14mbps on one test. It's the network, not the phone people.
So you can get blazing speeds for all of an afternoon on their capped network?