Apple actually has products resulting from their patents. Not to mention, they don't troll; they're going after companies they feel actually infringed upon the patent.
No. You're stretching things to unbelievable levels. The fact of the matter is, your shitty little scenario isn't happening. These fuckstain rioters are NOT peaceful, and have shown no signs of stopping.
You can go on and on all you want about "Well what happens if there was a peaceful protest?", but the simple fact of the matter is that this is NOT that situation.
The rest of his comment isn't any better. He goes on with some shit about "How does RIM know something is happening?" All someone has to do is look out the fucking window (or check the news).
The idea behind Patents was a way to reward inventors, while still having the discovery eventually fall into the Public Domain, so Society as a whole could benefit. Before then, inventors often just kept their discoveries to themselves, and when they died, that knowledge died with them.
Ok. That doesn't change anything. What is a "discovery"? If I find a way to improve upon a rechargeable battery, is that a "discovery"? How about a better quality LCD?
May I be allowed to say: holy fucking shit. 250,000 patents in one phone? Insane. Absolutely insane. The patent system is supposed to be used so a new device has maybe a handful of patents in it.
It should be noted that the phrase was intended to convey the idea that there are on average 250,000 patented items in one phone, not that a phone would generate 250k patents on it's own.
I doubt Microsoft and other companies would be spending billions in research if everything they discovered or came up with was immediately available to everyone else.
Yes, they would, as they want to have better shit than the other guy. This idea that the only reason to do R&D is to patent it is fucking retarded.
I'm surprised every american here on slashdot seem to try to bring down the last thing that is still done in the US. Research.
Software Patents don't help this at all. They just punish those that actually try to do something by having a similar idea to someone who went bankrupt years ago and ended up selling the patent to a troll.
Not nearly as much as it is for say, pharmaceutical companies. And there's also the fact that there's a major threat of litigation that is suddenly out the window.
If they become worthless over night, many companies will just be bankrupt in the morning./quote.
Only those that don't actually produce anything, but rather just sit on patents and sue people. I am perfectly fine with them being dead.
No company that anyone actually cares about (read: actually does something) would collapse. The only ones that would be worried would be the ones like Intellectual Vultures, who don't actually do anything.
Software engineers everywhere would look up from their monitors, then leave their desks. They would walk outside, and see the other software engineers who have done the same. Then they would all join hands and start singing in unison.
It wouldn't. They would not increase their profits, and they would have increased costs in support and returns.
And only like what, 10% of iOS users jailbreak? There's no way they would sell enough of those "gadgets" to break even on their costs. Especially not when they can have manufacturing partners do all of that for them, after they've been vetted by Apple. And the bonus is that they can sell them to the entire iPhone user base, not just a subset of jailbreakers.
Blah Blah, I'm jealous of smartphone owners, and I can't see why anyone would have a different opinion than me, so it must all be marketing. Never mind the fact that it actually is a good, solid product that was light years ahead of anything else on the market at the time it came out, especially in terms of usability. It's just marketing.
Yes, but would you say it's not unreasonable to expect the Back button to take you to the Message List from the Conversation View in an SMS app? Especially given the fact that almost none of them have a way to get back to the Message List from the Conversation View because they all expect you to use the Back button?
The back button on the HTC is unbelievably broken - it entirely depends on what you were doing before as to what action it has.
This isn't a problem with any phone manufacturer; this is a problem with whoever developed the app you're using at any given time. Many developers implement back button functionality poorly, or they give it some other weird functionality that isn't consistent with the App Developer Guidelines. Many of these apps also would have been rejected on iOS if they tried anything like this, and told to fuck off until they fixed it. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Does it return you to the home screen or to the previous page in the app? It depends! For example, I get a text message while my phone is locked - I unlock the phone and the message is displayed. I now want to refer to another message I have received previously, and since I am in the SMS app (as that is what is loaded), I click the back button to get to the message list. And I get dumped to the phones home screen instead. If I open the SMS app myself, the back button works as expected! Lots of examples such as that.
This actually has to do with they way things are structured in Android. The back button, when properly implemented, should pop the last Activity off the top of the Activity stack. In the case you described, opening from lock screen, the current Activity would be reading the SMS conversation with that contact. When you hit the Back button, the last Activity on the stack is the Home Screen. When you open the SMS app itself, the current Activity is the Message list. You click on a message, and now the Message list gets pushed to the top of the stack, and the Conversation view is the current activity. Pushing Back here would pop the Message list off the stack.
The Android Market Place is a terribly poor user experience, I utterly hate using it - its hard to find apps, its hard to search, its hard to preview apps. The AppStore just seems so much better put together, especially when browsing from the device itself!
No argument here, although Google is making strides to improve things. They are better than they were back in the 1.5 days.
The screen locking is poor - I cant count the numerous number of times I have taken my HTC out of my pocket to find my penis or keys had randomly dialled someone, or started to write an email.
You're lucky; at least your penis attempts to be productive. Mine just plays Angry Birds. And it's got a higher score than me.
I'm not trying to say anything like, "You're wrong!" or try to explain to you that one is better than the other. I just was trying to give an explanation as to why certain things behave the way they do. If that behavior isn't to your liking, then you should go back to a device that is.
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Apple actually has products resulting from their patents. Not to mention, they don't troll; they're going after companies they feel actually infringed upon the patent.
Keep in mind, there's also the benefit of shutting down a patent troll, which is good for everybody.
Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
No. You're stretching things to unbelievable levels. The fact of the matter is, your shitty little scenario isn't happening. These fuckstain rioters are NOT peaceful, and have shown no signs of stopping.
You can go on and on all you want about "Well what happens if there was a peaceful protest?", but the simple fact of the matter is that this is NOT that situation.
And you're putting a lot of faith in a conspiracy theory. These requests are the result of court orders and arrests.
Fuck that. It is NOT overstepping in situations like this.
And attacks from their own side, when shit like this happens.
Those rioters waived any right to "private communications" the second they started destroying property.
I hope they get fucked by the Long Dick of the Law.
The rest of his comment isn't any better. He goes on with some shit about "How does RIM know something is happening?" All someone has to do is look out the fucking window (or check the news).
The idea behind Patents was a way to reward inventors, while still having the discovery eventually fall into the Public Domain, so Society as a whole could benefit. Before then, inventors often just kept their discoveries to themselves, and when they died, that knowledge died with them.
Sure there is. Simply having the Superior Product doesn't guarantee success. Look at BetaMax vs VHS.
No, it is opinion. Your wanting it to be otherwise doesn't make it so, no matter how bad you want it to be.
Instead of letting the free market decide
There is no rhetoric you can use to weasel out of this one.
We don't need rhetoric. You, on the other hand, apparently need to rely on the religion of the "free market".
And the fact hat Apple is choosing to beat Android into submission with them, rather than make a superior product, is very telling indeed.
No, it's not. It's playing the game that was set up. I do like you seem to have forgotten that Microsoft is doing the exact same thing, though.
(Neither does communism, IMHO
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Ok. That doesn't change anything. What is a "discovery"? If I find a way to improve upon a rechargeable battery, is that a "discovery"? How about a better quality LCD?
May I be allowed to say: holy fucking shit. 250,000 patents in one phone? Insane. Absolutely insane. The patent system is supposed to be used so a new device has maybe a handful of patents in it.
It should be noted that the phrase was intended to convey the idea that there are on average 250,000 patented items in one phone, not that a phone would generate 250k patents on it's own.
I doubt Microsoft and other companies would be spending billions in research if everything they discovered or came up with was immediately available to everyone else.
Yes, they would, as they want to have better shit than the other guy. This idea that the only reason to do R&D is to patent it is fucking retarded.
I'm surprised every american here on slashdot seem to try to bring down the last thing that is still done in the US. Research.
Software Patents don't help this at all. They just punish those that actually try to do something by having a similar idea to someone who went bankrupt years ago and ended up selling the patent to a troll.
Because patents are part of their valuation.
Not nearly as much as it is for say, pharmaceutical companies. And there's also the fact that there's a major threat of litigation that is suddenly out the window.
If they become worthless over night, many companies will just be bankrupt in the morning./quote.
Only those that don't actually produce anything, but rather just sit on patents and sue people. I am perfectly fine with them being dead.
No company that anyone actually cares about (read: actually does something) would collapse. The only ones that would be worried would be the ones like Intellectual Vultures, who don't actually do anything.
Software engineers everywhere would look up from their monitors, then leave their desks. They would walk outside, and see the other software engineers who have done the same. Then they would all join hands and start singing in unison.
It wouldn't. They would not increase their profits, and they would have increased costs in support and returns.
And only like what, 10% of iOS users jailbreak? There's no way they would sell enough of those "gadgets" to break even on their costs. Especially not when they can have manufacturing partners do all of that for them, after they've been vetted by Apple. And the bonus is that they can sell them to the entire iPhone user base, not just a subset of jailbreakers.
You're trying to dispute actual facts with "What ifs". That doesn't work. They know far better what they are doing than you do.
Blah Blah, I'm jealous of smartphone owners, and I can't see why anyone would have a different opinion than me, so it must all be marketing. Never mind the fact that it actually is a good, solid product that was light years ahead of anything else on the market at the time it came out, especially in terms of usability. It's just marketing.
Yes, but would you say it's not unreasonable to expect the Back button to take you to the Message List from the Conversation View in an SMS app? Especially given the fact that almost none of them have a way to get back to the Message List from the Conversation View because they all expect you to use the Back button?
The back button on the HTC is unbelievably broken - it entirely depends on what you were doing before as to what action it has.
This isn't a problem with any phone manufacturer; this is a problem with whoever developed the app you're using at any given time. Many developers implement back button functionality poorly, or they give it some other weird functionality that isn't consistent with the App Developer Guidelines. Many of these apps also would have been rejected on iOS if they tried anything like this, and told to fuck off until they fixed it. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Does it return you to the home screen or to the previous page in the app? It depends! For example, I get a text message while my phone is locked - I unlock the phone and the message is displayed. I now want to refer to another message I have received previously, and since I am in the SMS app (as that is what is loaded), I click the back button to get to the message list. And I get dumped to the phones home screen instead. If I open the SMS app myself, the back button works as expected! Lots of examples such as that.
This actually has to do with they way things are structured in Android. The back button, when properly implemented, should pop the last Activity off the top of the Activity stack. In the case you described, opening from lock screen, the current Activity would be reading the SMS conversation with that contact. When you hit the Back button, the last Activity on the stack is the Home Screen. When you open the SMS app itself, the current Activity is the Message list. You click on a message, and now the Message list gets pushed to the top of the stack, and the Conversation view is the current activity. Pushing Back here would pop the Message list off the stack.
The Android Market Place is a terribly poor user experience, I utterly hate using it - its hard to find apps, its hard to search, its hard to preview apps. The AppStore just seems so much better put together, especially when browsing from the device itself!
No argument here, although Google is making strides to improve things. They are better than they were back in the 1.5 days.
The screen locking is poor - I cant count the numerous number of times I have taken my HTC out of my pocket to find my penis or keys had randomly dialled someone, or started to write an email.
You're lucky; at least your penis attempts to be productive. Mine just plays Angry Birds. And it's got a higher score than me.
I'm not trying to say anything like, "You're wrong!" or try to explain to you that one is better than the other. I just was trying to give an explanation as to why certain things behave the way they do. If that behavior isn't to your liking, then you should go back to a device that is.