Fuck off with your nonsense. I'm pointing out that you've basically condemned anyone who can't move to either a substandard, or no education whatsoever, which would leave them crawling in poverty, and you're bitching that I'm getting in the way, because you don't want to care about those people. Fuck em, you say. That's what they get for being poor.
The obvious answer is... someone else will open a new school.
Will they? Can you be 100000% sure on that? No, you can't. And quite frankly, why the fuck would someone open a for-profit school in the middle of a poor neighborhood, with people that probably can't afford the tuition that you would need to stay profitable? You're a fucking idiot if you don't see that all of the private schools are going to be in the good parts of town, where they can cater to those who have money. It's just like broadband internet: The ISPs don't want to provide service to lower income neighborhoods, because they don't think it'll be profitable. The only reason any of them are there is due to the franchise agreements with the city which require them to build out there.
Not to mention subsidized public schools.
You mean the ones that you closed down due to not having the funds to adequately operate?
sheesh, is that so hard?
When you think that "market forces" are all anything needs, then yes. Because those forces don't fucking exist.
I think that's a false equivalency. Just because they may have the final say in a life and death decision does not make them qualified to make decisions about other aspects of the kid's life, specifically education. Many parents don't know shit about education, and would rather see some kind of ideology taught instead of reality. So yes, deferring to the experts is what should happen.
But, I can sure enough walk down the street, and find 100 or more people who had "computer science" in school, and can't navigate to the DOS prompt on their computers, can't tell you the difference between RAM and ROM, and have no idea what the CPU does.
And I could probably find just as many "Self taught" people who can't do that either; or worse, have a completely wrong understanding.
Your point is completely irrelevant. You're talking about stupid people. Stupid people exist in every country; in every walk of life. You say you can find videos of Americans showing stupidity; I tell you I can find stupid people in other nations just as well.
Citation needed, otherwise you're full of shit. Almost none of what you listed takes BitCoin natively; you have to convert to USD or other Government Backed currency before buying those services.
You mean employers are no longer treating their employees like shit, and putting them in dangerous positions for shitty pay? Great! Let me go tell the people who work in Massey Energy's coal mines...
I happen to know of a particular set of people in a union job that drive Corvettes to work... but they slack off during regular work hours and do all their work on overtime hours so that they get paid more. (And they admitted it to me...) Their homes are not what I would call spectacular and they pretty much squander all the money they get.
And I could probably find a bunch of people who do this without unions. Look at any family run business. Nepotism is rampant, and odds are the kids are put into high positions that they have no business being in, yet reap those rewards while making those below them suffer.
And yet they are treated like that, hence the need for unions. Get the media and Republicans to stop demonizing them, and actually support paying them high wages for what they have to do, and maybe they wouldn't need the unions.
All you have to do is see the "cheating" scandal in Georgia to see what happens when adults are looking after their interests rather than the interests of the kids we are supposed to be educating.
Because that would never happen in a private school, right? Someone the "Magic Hand of the Free Market" stops people from cheating?
Vouchers are an incredibly shitty solution to the problem. For one, they're going to take money out of schools that may already be under performing, thus lessening the possibility that they may ever turn themselves around. Second, they favor those with mobility over those without. Take a family that doesn't have a car. Do you really expect them to be able to take their small child across town for schooling? And be able to get to their job, which is likely closer to where they live?
The only people left who are against vouchers are those that support the status quo for no reason other than to support it.
Or those that have actually looked at the problems they create. But it's much easier to just pretend everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, right?
Unions are not necessary for filling the ranks of teachers; there are numerous professions without any unionization that have no trouble being filled.
They are in those professions where the employees are treated like shit, such as teachers. If teachers were paid well, and not treated like shit, then maybe I would agree with you. However, for now, the unions are necessary.
I can summarize both their arguments in two words: Student Motivation.
Of course, the problem can be quite easy to generalize. The solutions, of which there are many, and not one will fit all, are another story.
Yes, teachers' unions are often roadblocks in reform, but without them, teachers would be downtrodden and unwilling to enter the profession.
Only because of the way they are treated now. If they were treated like the Noble Profession they are, and given proper respect and pay, then many of the best and brightest would aspire to the profession. However, as they are treated like crap now, the unions are necessary.
Yet uninvolved parents can stop a good teacher from showing what he or she is capable of. But I know some people who would say that a really good teacher can manage around parents who don't care or even actively work against the education.
I would say unmotivated parents are a big problem, but the bigger problem would be the "helicopter parents", and those that think their kids can do no wrong, and the teacher is always out to get them. Those types of parents can make good teachers unwilling to go the extra mile when needed, for fear of retribution.
As you'd expect from an organization that's been unaccountable to parents since its inception
To play Devil's Advocate, not being accountable to parents can be a good thing. Parents don't know what they really want. There's a lot of parents who want Creationism taught instead of Evolution.
With unemployment so high, if I'm looking to hire someone, why would I hire someone who needs training if I there are 10 people in a line with high experience who are competing for the same job?
When things get better (and they will, don't believe what the "sky is falling" crackpots have to say), those with high experience will demand better wages and benefits, more in line with what their experience says they're worth. If they don't get it, they'll bolt. The younger guy will be more likely to stay, and will probably have some feeling of loyalty or ownership.
The rape isn't paying for Visa's computers. Visa rapes you for *profit*.
I've never been raped by Visa. In fact, Visa has helped me out. When my wallet was stolen, I didn't have any cash, just a few cards. Meaning that I just lost a couple pieces of plastic, and wasn't liable for any misuse of them.
Compare that to the guy who's BitCoin wallet was stolen; he lost everything.
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...Ok. How about their actual service. Their prices, how well they actually do they things they claim to be able to do, that sort of thing.
Increased privacy would be nice, but first and foremost, I have to go with the solution that works.
Well, the problem is that even if you choose not to use their services, others will
So you don't get to feel part of the IN crowd?
He wasn't arrested because he "happens" to be the spokesman; he was arrested because he was also taking part in the attacks.
Fuck off with your nonsense. I'm pointing out that you've basically condemned anyone who can't move to either a substandard, or no education whatsoever, which would leave them crawling in poverty, and you're bitching that I'm getting in the way, because you don't want to care about those people. Fuck em, you say. That's what they get for being poor.
The obvious answer is ... someone else will open a new school.
Will they? Can you be 100000% sure on that? No, you can't. And quite frankly, why the fuck would someone open a for-profit school in the middle of a poor neighborhood, with people that probably can't afford the tuition that you would need to stay profitable? You're a fucking idiot if you don't see that all of the private schools are going to be in the good parts of town, where they can cater to those who have money. It's just like broadband internet: The ISPs don't want to provide service to lower income neighborhoods, because they don't think it'll be profitable. The only reason any of them are there is due to the franchise agreements with the city which require them to build out there.
Not to mention subsidized public schools.
You mean the ones that you closed down due to not having the funds to adequately operate?
sheesh, is that so hard?
When you think that "market forces" are all anything needs, then yes. Because those forces don't fucking exist.
I think that's a false equivalency. Just because they may have the final say in a life and death decision does not make them qualified to make decisions about other aspects of the kid's life, specifically education. Many parents don't know shit about education, and would rather see some kind of ideology taught instead of reality. So yes, deferring to the experts is what should happen.
I fail to see how that's relevant at all. How much shit has happened to private companies that should have put them out of business, yet they aren't?
Besides, would you enjoy for the one school in an area to be put out of business? Now what happens to all of the students that were there?
But, I can sure enough walk down the street, and find 100 or more people who had "computer science" in school, and can't navigate to the DOS prompt on their computers, can't tell you the difference between RAM and ROM, and have no idea what the CPU does.
And I could probably find just as many "Self taught" people who can't do that either; or worse, have a completely wrong understanding.
Your point is completely irrelevant. You're talking about stupid people. Stupid people exist in every country; in every walk of life. You say you can find videos of Americans showing stupidity; I tell you I can find stupid people in other nations just as well.
Not really, because they didn't risk anything. They ran a program on their computer. There's no actual risk involved.
Citation needed, otherwise you're full of shit. Almost none of what you listed takes BitCoin natively; you have to convert to USD or other Government Backed currency before buying those services.
Unions have long outlived their usefulness
You mean employers are no longer treating their employees like shit, and putting them in dangerous positions for shitty pay? Great! Let me go tell the people who work in Massey Energy's coal mines...
I happen to know of a particular set of people in a union job that drive Corvettes to work... but they slack off during regular work hours and do all their work on overtime hours so that they get paid more. (And they admitted it to me...) Their homes are not what I would call spectacular and they pretty much squander all the money they get.
And I could probably find a bunch of people who do this without unions. Look at any family run business. Nepotism is rampant, and odds are the kids are put into high positions that they have no business being in, yet reap those rewards while making those below them suffer.
And yet they are treated like that, hence the need for unions. Get the media and Republicans to stop demonizing them, and actually support paying them high wages for what they have to do, and maybe they wouldn't need the unions.
I can't think of a union job that has employees that make six figure salaries
Since when is the poverty line set at 100k?
All you have to do is see the "cheating" scandal in Georgia to see what happens when adults are looking after their interests rather than the interests of the kids we are supposed to be educating.
Because that would never happen in a private school, right? Someone the "Magic Hand of the Free Market" stops people from cheating?
Vouchers are an incredibly shitty solution to the problem. For one, they're going to take money out of schools that may already be under performing, thus lessening the possibility that they may ever turn themselves around. Second, they favor those with mobility over those without. Take a family that doesn't have a car. Do you really expect them to be able to take their small child across town for schooling? And be able to get to their job, which is likely closer to where they live?
The only people left who are against vouchers are those that support the status quo for no reason other than to support it.
Or those that have actually looked at the problems they create. But it's much easier to just pretend everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, right?
Unions are not necessary for filling the ranks of teachers; there are numerous professions without any unionization that have no trouble being filled.
They are in those professions where the employees are treated like shit, such as teachers. If teachers were paid well, and not treated like shit, then maybe I would agree with you. However, for now, the unions are necessary.
Out of the 95 cents spent on every public school system student about 5 cents actually reaches something the student touches. It is *THAT* bad.
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I think it would be more telling to see those numbers per school, and then compared to the neighborhood and funding the school itself is in.
I can summarize both their arguments in two words: Student Motivation.
Of course, the problem can be quite easy to generalize. The solutions, of which there are many, and not one will fit all, are another story.
Yes, teachers' unions are often roadblocks in reform, but without them, teachers would be downtrodden and unwilling to enter the profession.
Only because of the way they are treated now. If they were treated like the Noble Profession they are, and given proper respect and pay, then many of the best and brightest would aspire to the profession. However, as they are treated like crap now, the unions are necessary.
Yet uninvolved parents can stop a good teacher from showing what he or she is capable of. But I know some people who would say that a really good teacher can manage around parents who don't care or even actively work against the education.
I would say unmotivated parents are a big problem, but the bigger problem would be the "helicopter parents", and those that think their kids can do no wrong, and the teacher is always out to get them. Those types of parents can make good teachers unwilling to go the extra mile when needed, for fear of retribution.
That's the most retarded thing I have ever read.
Some of the smartest people in history acquired their educations quite informally.
And many of the smartest people in history acquired their education through formal education.
Some of the biggest failures in history have had all the benefits of whatever education system was current at the time.
And many of them didn't.
As you'd expect from an organization that's been unaccountable to parents since its inception
To play Devil's Advocate, not being accountable to parents can be a good thing. Parents don't know what they really want. There's a lot of parents who want Creationism taught instead of Evolution.
And the qualified guy will be happier in the end not having worked there.
Unless he's currently unemployed and unable to feed his family.
With unemployment so high, if I'm looking to hire someone, why would I hire someone who needs training if I there are 10 people in a line with high experience who are competing for the same job?
When things get better (and they will, don't believe what the "sky is falling" crackpots have to say), those with high experience will demand better wages and benefits, more in line with what their experience says they're worth. If they don't get it, they'll bolt. The younger guy will be more likely to stay, and will probably have some feeling of loyalty or ownership.
The rape isn't paying for Visa's computers. Visa rapes you for *profit*.
I've never been raped by Visa. In fact, Visa has helped me out. When my wallet was stolen, I didn't have any cash, just a few cards. Meaning that I just lost a couple pieces of plastic, and wasn't liable for any misuse of them.
Compare that to the guy who's BitCoin wallet was stolen; he lost everything.
The bitcoin network can be forked by anyone with credibility.
Yes, but then they wouldn't be "BitCoins". They'd be "ByteCoins" or something.