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Google Announces Google CDN
leetrout writes "Google has introduced their Page Speed Service which 'is the latest tool in Google's arsenal to help speed up the web. When you sign up and point your site's DNS entry to Google, they'll enable the tool which will fetch your content from your servers, rewrite your webpages, and serve them up from Google's own servers around the world.'"
at least when they finish taking over the world we'll be able to find things on the internet REALLY FAST.
So, it rewrites my HTML, but what about my PHP (Perl, Python, your_scripting_language_here)?
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I presume they'll be inserting ads into your website!
I wonder how soon before this is used in elaborate spear phishing attempts to bypass a lot of trust issues.
"The page looks like it came from Google..."
So in 2010 they tell webmasters speed is now a ranking factor. A few months later they launch a paid for service for webmasters to improve speed. Cynical? Me? Possibly...
According to the FAQ, it does not support Flash, HTTPS, IPv6, or third-party hosted sites (http://code.google.com/speed/pss/faq.html#handlehttps). HTTPS is a deal-breaker for me...
This seems like an amazing simple solution for the biggest bandwidth hogs on my servers--the images. But, it seems like it's not set up to perform in this role satisfactorily. In the FAQs, it looks like they recompress images. I'm pretty sure I'd never want another site to monkey with my, or my clients', images. An elegant and nearly transparent way to install a CDN this may be, but unless they are willing to never ever mess with my content, I don't think this will work for me. At this point move along, there is nothing to see here.
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This is why I am using CloudFlare.
Somehow I trust them more than Google.
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Not sure if anyone has heard of it before, but Opera has had a similar feature built in for a while called Opera Turbo, which compresses pages on their servers before they are downloaded to the browser. It's also how Opera on the iPhone works, because of Apple's restrictions.
After millions of years, Sex2.0 is still in beta? This is worse than Duke Nukem.
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
Would this have google take all DDOS hits and not my server? Sounds good.
Nice astroturf attempt, Sergei.
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Holy shit, 6 out of 7 respondents to the GP (all but anredo) completely missed the point. [insert standard complaint about slashdot going downhill].
Web pages with script are not static, and caching the HTML script output does nothing. Server-side code generally has to be run per-visitor. Akamai has all sorts of crazy custom XML to specify which portions are static.
Setting up a proper CDN for the modern web is more complicated than just redirecting some DNS entries.
Would be interesting to see how they can use the content after downloading and what kind of rights on the content you are giving up. At the very least you have given Google the "right" to do analysis on all traffic to your site and the content of your site; whatever that entails.
A test:
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_PJ_84d87ed307e3256893ec9200809b5643/
It's just the next Wave of features from their Labs.
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Where do you get off assuming it was Sergei without anything to back it up?
It probably was Larry.
They want to know where you're going when you're not using Google, too. I'll pass. OpenDNS has been decent so far.
with metered internet caps, the speedup must be removing a lot of cruft from pages- thereby reducing the usage-- maybe not as much as say netflix's reductions but certainly enough to be useful for low limit cell data plans...
something that shaves a tenth the time must shave at least half that in bytes....
in my life I've authored webpages using wysiwyg editors that had an enormous amount of cruft.
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Then I can see it now, just like godaddy pulling people's domains due to I.C.E. and the many many reports of legit domains being yanked and not given back over the goofups.
I can see same happening to google, say you have a site with opinions and content that government doesn't like or google doesn't like, they will just yank it offline without notification.
they already do that with their blogger service. I used to have a domain name pointed to their blogger service they offered domain hosting for free through blogger, but my site was shut down for having objectional content and I was using it to critique and log I.C.E. and godaddy behavior. Even had a large section on the Feds and ICE were demanding Mozilla pull the mafia plugin for firefox and mozilla publicly refused and still do.
Yet google yanked my page for objectional material.
so yea, you go ahead and trust google and use this service, then if your site has any content they do not agree with be ready for it to disappear.
I will do this when google runs its own websites through it's own pagespeed service. /4 warnings (and that is without performing a search)
According to my HTML validator www.google.com has 64 errors
A message to Google: Fix your own shit before trying to fix others.
I'm wondering how Akamai is feeling this morning.
...don't expect your page to show up in search results above other sites that have signed up.
Alright Google, sooner or later you will have most of the internet in the palm of your hands (if you don't already). So, try and keep your promise about not being evil. Not that it'd matter much once the CEOs die out and we get new CEOs who end up being evil. Thus, every day Google should make all employees repeat a mantra. It'd go, "Don't be evil, don't be evil, don't be evil, don't be evi..." etc etc. ...We are so screwed.
Well, the preliminary tests don't exactly seem promising. At least not for my site. Though I find it very odd that it says the site took 7 seconds to load naturally when all of our records indicate that people are getting much faster load times.
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_8X_59f9be28951b0d52b317193839360e72/
Complete page generation for each request is really only justified if there are either too many pages to write them all to a static cache at the same time
Would an online shopping site with 80,000 products count? The product photos probably would though.
or if the pages are very dynamic (like very active forum threads or other dynamic data that needs to be delivered "fresh").
Would an online shopping site that displays which products a given user has recently viewed in this shopping session and what items are in the shopping cart count? Or possibly each page of product search results.
You're thinking of this story about CloudFlare.
We run on cloudflare; and google CDN would make it slower!
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_KG_7fb43f968043f8550174ccf5cb68eaf2/
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_C5_6d5bcabab829a123dbcb443250665c70/
Seems like they have some work to do!
At the moment cloudflare is the clear winner.
So, perhaps I missed something: Where does it say that the compression will be lossless?
There are tools to convert still GIF images to indexed PNG images, which are smaller except in a tiny minority of the smallest images. There are tools such as pngout, OptiPNG, and pngcrush that losslessly recompress the image data in PNG files and strip non-essential metadata. There are also tools like jpegtran that recompress JPEG files by trimming out Exif metadata and thumbnails, making the Huffman (entropy coding) tables more efficient, and deciding which "progressive" coefficient order produces the smallest file.
But to reiterate your question: Where does it say that Google will be using tools like these?
Funny how all of the slashdotters are talking about privacy issues instead of this service's potential to disrupt the paid CDN industry. I wonder what Akamai thinks about this development? Or the folks at Inktomi (now part of Yahoo, I believe) for that matter?
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Yeah, I can't imagine cloudflare is particularly thrilled about this given that they had been discussing their technology with google in the past to improve optimization etc. That said, cloudflare has a free option, google does not (and at this time cloudflare has better response times than google under many conditions)
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Ever since I started using Request Policy (a Firefox extension) I've noticed that severan sites use request to another domain that looks related but end in cdn, example. www.penny-arcade.com makes requests to pa-cdn.com, and there are many other examples of such.
To me it sucks because if too many sites start requiring google-cdn.com I might as well stop using Request Policy, and no I don't use google.com for my searches.
But... the future refused to change.
Google Canadian? We already have google.ca.
Are the problems in the US getting so bad that even Google is completely moving to Canada? :)
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/110728_18_d3f5fc7d0df3a3b3842d71d71ba235f9/
they'll enable the tool which will fetch your content from your servers, rewrite your webpages, and serve them up from Google's own servers around the world.
and allow google to track even more people who haven't "opted-in" to their analytics and data mining. The same reason to avoid google dns.
There have been too many dumb posts...not that that is too unusual...but really its not that hard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network
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Having been a customer of Akamai and a customer of Google (people still use Inktomi? Golly.) the support Akamai delivers alone makes it worth the money. Google support simply doesn't even exist- even when you pay. Akamai were also the first to offer HTTP Live Streaming, have origin/edge problems completely worked out, have perks like OVP... I don't know for certain but if I were making a choice I would say Akamai without hesitation.
All that said- for the frugal, Google. Their ad/analytics package and now this, docs and email as free[sic] services can take you quite far. Actually the ad and page analytics stuff is what I recommend for just about any case. Omniture and DoubleClick offer the same stuff but at a hefty fee with only so so support.
Definitely disruptive but what many CDN customers don't realize is that it takes more than just software and bandwidth to run a CDN. It's a very operationally-intensive business. 24/7/365. People who rely on their content distribution and publishing or website can't afford it to perform poorly or go down. Is Google prepared to handle that kind of customer service? I'm not sure. Being in the CDN industry (at Limelight Networks, Akamai's largest competitor), I've seen companies try to build their own CDNs only to fail at it because it takes so much operational support to properly run it.
http://blog.jasonthibeault.com/index.php/2011/07/28/starting-a-business-and-running-it-are-two-different-things/
Of course once copyright law has been expanded to give sole rights to broadcasters, google will own all your stuff because they are hosting it and broadcasting it to the world.
At what point are we going to just throw our hands up and allow google to control every aspect of our internet experience?
So far:
-Dominating search
-Branching off into the world of ISPs (with their new fiber in Ohio)
-DNS
-Hosting/CDN
-Browser
-Social Media
-Image hosting
-Email
-Chat/Video/Phone
The way things are going, they will literally become the internet. Everything single page request you make will involve google in some way...
As it stands, I'm pretty sure 90% of the websites I go to have at least one js request, whether it be from adsense or analytics...
Having a single corporation controlling the internet scares me. Don't forget, Google is a corporation and cares more about profit than anything else.
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It's not really the same service. Services such as Akamai serve mostly static content. Google's service optimizes the pages on your website as they are served, even dynamic pages. It basically takes over your website, which many people won't want. It will actually be competing with other similar services such as Cloudflare and Incapsula (both of which I tried and both of which still have some pretty serious issues - enough for me to leave them). If Google does a good job with a competitive price it just might run such companies out of business.
I don't think yahoo has preserved the old inktomi CDN. I worked at yahoo search and for a certain project we ended up using Akamai. Either way, yahoo search is being shout down and all the old inktomi tech is getting tossed.
What does using Google's DNS servers imply, traffic-sniffing-wise? Are they monitoring at all? Not that my ISP isn't monitoring, but somehow I don't mind that. I'm wondering more about Google monitoring my traffic in relation to my online identities.
nothing.
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I RTFA (yeah I know) and checked out the service.. there was a comparison site so I entered one of my web site's URL. Waited as the test ran and it turns out my site direct is 4.6% FASTER then the optimized Google proxy.
Go figure.
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Google Page Speed is like CloudFlare, which is an easy-to-use, free, sort-of-CDN/web-proxy with rewriting rules. I've been using it for a few months and haven't noticed any problems, and CloudFlare seems more matures. Each offers unique features: CloudFlare has security features to prevent some attacks and bots, while Google has some unique rewriting rules and sharding.
Google runs hundreds of large and varied services, including their own CDN, already. I think they can handle it.
Page load time goes up from 5 to 6.5 seconds for my homepage.
(Still not bad for a page with 4269 links. http://blog.go-here.nl )
and pricing will be âoecompetitive"
Indeed, I'll bet it will. Competitive with AWS? They don't say that you won't need to have a site of your own, but if they're hosting you, why would you?
And it'll probably pay for itself, as the decrease in latency that you receive will improve your search ranking.
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Not sure if anyone has heard of it before, but Opera has had a similar feature built in for a while called Opera Turbo, which compresses pages on their servers before they are downloaded to the browser. It's also how Opera on the iPhone works, because of Apple's restrictions.
Hopefully this is smarter than Opera's system. I had my PayPal account suspended because I logged in using Opera Mini, and PayPal's location-based fraud detection kicked in. It turns out that Opera had bounced my connection through a server 1000+ miles away from my actual location. The same thing could happen with banks, webmail, or any other service which uses your IP address to determine your location. A 20% speedup in page load times is *NOT* worth it if you are getting locked out of your accounts.
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But somehow I have trouble believing that the customer would get nothing out of this. Even if it's only faster delivery to an end user , that is a very real and very tangible thing.
I just ran their test on a page from my web site. The page contains a flash photo presentation with accompanying music (still waiting for a non-Flash-based tool of comparable features and ease of use; nothing even remotely close exists). According to webpagetest.org the original page loaded in 2.4 seconds, while Google's "optimized" version took 21.3 seconds. Neither of them actually loaded the Flash presentation properly. Is this because Google dislikes Flash or is it a problem with webpagetest.org?
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Umm no thanks.
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How can this be used for more targeted ads you ask? Quite simple really. If they host the content they have every right to scan the content. Lets take images for example, we know they have the capability of doing a full image search. They scan their hosted images add tags to them then every time a visitor goes to your site Google will record how many page views you get/record the client IP. This IP can be later used to connect to a Google account, thus providing more targeted ads in your subsequent searches. We all have to look at the big picture. I can only see Google's stocks rising.
Content producers pay for the CDNs. Its unlikely they would stop doing so in the hope that all of their customers will use the Google service.
Dosclaimer: I work for Google
Reading the headline, along with the recent downward spiral of the US dollar,I thought Google was going to start using CDN dollars instead of USD as their new standard currency.
THink about the immense benefit to Google, even without showing you ads. They know EVERYTHING that you are looking at online. Every site down to the very image and Javascript file will be logged and analyzed. I'm quite sure they will be logging and analyzing DNS hits.
Or you could actually look up how a CDN works.
Instead of cutting out bytes, they serve content from geographically closer servers. This allows lower latency, and distributed load, with means faster page loads and better response to the end user.
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Well whoopee for you. I'd be more impressed if you'd written (if that's what the Americanism "authored" means) web pages that had an enormous amount of cruft, using a text editor. That would be showing serious dedication to generating cruft.
Using a cruft-generating machine to generate cruft is about as impressive as standing on a beach holding a broom and saying "I've decided to let the tide come swooshing in".
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If the flash file loads just fine when you visit the page you tested, then there's obviously a problem with webpagetest.
I have read that there is a lot time wasted by people hanging out on the web. I see this as a first step. Google becomes the primary web hosting agent. Then they bring out a virtual user browsing service that randomly browses the web pages they are hosting. As an option you can provide your credit card number so that the virtual browsing agent can purchase thing on the web at random and have them sent to your address of record. You can even disclose your orientation so the virtual browsing agent can participate in DDOS operations on your behalf. Can't you just see the elegant nature of a system where google is the provider and the hacker. For corporate clients, customer credit card records can be stored in a semi-secure database as part of the Google offering so that the browsing agent can collect credit card numbers on your behalf, auction them off to the Russian mafia and deposit a percentage (66%) in an on-line bank account that they also provide and host. The ramifications are staggering. Imagine where this could lead to... Think of all the productive time you could get back if the virtual browsing agent freed up all the time you are currently spending on the web.
Will my webpage suddenly become inaccessible and point to an "Account suspended" page?
also specifically optimizes the html & the images in the page, reducing the file sizes, keeping my assertion valid.
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random