Again, you're an entitled prick who thinks that just because he doesn't have money, he should still get top tier talent. Well I don't have money, but I think I deserve a Ferrari. Does that mean I should get one? If not, then why the hell should you get the talent you believe you require?
No, you're saying that it's somehow ok for you to act "entitled", but when someone else tries to do the same thing, you bitch, complain, and fuck them over. I don't give a rat's ass about your business, your budgets, or any other excuse you come up with. The fact of the matter is, you are behaving in exactly the same manner that you complain the American workers do, yet somehow you think your actions are more acceptable than theirs.
Yes, it's true. And it is entirely the fault of the companies, so it's incredibly disingenuous for them to be complaining so hard about a problem THEY created.
I like how you make fun of that line of thinking, but that is EXACTLY what companies are bitching about in stories like this. They are whining and bitching that they can't get the exact talent they want for the pay they want. Somehow that's not only ok, but that's encouraged. Yet, when a person believes they should make a living wage, suddenly they're "entitled", and "not competitive".
I like how you completely ignore reality, and forget that when people ARE desperate enough, they will find some way to fill their bellies and keep a roof over their heads, even if it means turning to crime. No, that doesn't happen, and those people should just hurry up and die off, so as not to make trouble for the rest of us.
Maybe if the employees considered the well being of the companies...?
Why the fuck would I care about the well being of an entity that has repeatedly demonstrated that it doesn't give a fuck about the well being of it's employees?
Perhaps back in the day when companies showed some loyalty toward their workers, but the employers burned that bridge a long time ago.
Hopefully employers do the same thing. If they bitch about not finding someone skilled, they should up and leave, because clearly they aren't capable of attracting the necessary talent.
I can see it now: Lay off the maintenance worker, and as a requirement for receiving his benefits, he has to do the same job he was just working at. Now at 60% or so of what he was getting before, and with a lot less leeway.
So you're basically an entitled pile of shit, then, right? Using the same standard as people like you use to judge workers who demand a living wage, by you demanding that people work for less, thus giving you more profit, you're being entitled.
And why is any of that true? Because employers, who used to show some semblance of loyalty toward their workers (you know, the people who actually make their business happen), have given the workforce the middle finger.
So you think everyone who is out of work and not on benefits will steal or kill.
Not in the least. But many of them will, if their situation gets bad enough.
I got another job.
Good for you. But clearly you've not paid attention to anything that's been said, either in the news or in this discussion. That's difficult, mainly because companies are making it difficult.
That's exactly what the AC was saying. "The world doesn't own you a living wage". Yeah? Well the world doesn't owe you competent employees either. Pay them excellently, or bitch and moan that you can't find good employees while you can't compete.
Why is it acceptable for companies to spout bullshit like "We can't find good employees," but the second a worker brings up needing to be paid a living wage, they're scorned as some entitled prick?
I love posts like yours that thinks an employer like me somehow owes something to qn employee
I love posts like yours where you somehow think you're entitled to decent workers, regardless of your pay. You're not.
Yes, you do owe stuff to your employees. If you want to keep the good ones, and not have to constantly scramble to replace them, then you do. Get over yourself.
And employers shouldn't want to pay as little as possible. That kind of retarded, short-sighted thinking is what gets you into problems like these. Employers want to make money. And as the old adage goes, you have to spend money to make money. The good employee might cost 2-3x what a cheap one does, but in most cases, that good employee will return far more in productivity and profits than the cheap one does.
No, it's entirely the employers fault. They created the problem, through decades of hostility toward the workforce, and now they're trying to blame the workforce for those problems.
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You can think it silly all you want, but that's the current situation.
People still have to eat. And in order to survive, they have to have jobs. Hence, employers have a huge leverage against workers.
Again, you're an entitled prick who thinks that just because he doesn't have money, he should still get top tier talent. Well I don't have money, but I think I deserve a Ferrari. Does that mean I should get one? If not, then why the hell should you get the talent you believe you require?
No, you're saying that it's somehow ok for you to act "entitled", but when someone else tries to do the same thing, you bitch, complain, and fuck them over. I don't give a rat's ass about your business, your budgets, or any other excuse you come up with. The fact of the matter is, you are behaving in exactly the same manner that you complain the American workers do, yet somehow you think your actions are more acceptable than theirs.
Yes, it's true. And it is entirely the fault of the companies, so it's incredibly disingenuous for them to be complaining so hard about a problem THEY created.
I like how you make fun of that line of thinking, but that is EXACTLY what companies are bitching about in stories like this. They are whining and bitching that they can't get the exact talent they want for the pay they want. Somehow that's not only ok, but that's encouraged. Yet, when a person believes they should make a living wage, suddenly they're "entitled", and "not competitive".
Why do you hold such a double standard?
I like how you completely ignore reality, and forget that when people ARE desperate enough, they will find some way to fill their bellies and keep a roof over their heads, even if it means turning to crime. No, that doesn't happen, and those people should just hurry up and die off, so as not to make trouble for the rest of us.
My post was on topic. The fact that you don't have anything to rebut it doesn't change that.
That thinking really only works when both sides are equal. In the employee/employer relationship, they are rarely equal.
Because nobody gives a shit about the libertarian party, because they have no influence.
Maybe if the employees considered the well being of the companies...?
Why the fuck would I care about the well being of an entity that has repeatedly demonstrated that it doesn't give a fuck about the well being of it's employees?
Perhaps back in the day when companies showed some loyalty toward their workers, but the employers burned that bridge a long time ago.
An employment agreement isn't one sided.
It's pretty damn close, considering employers have almost all the power in the relationship.
And why the fuck should the employees have to make all the sacrifices?
Hopefully employers do the same thing. If they bitch about not finding someone skilled, they should up and leave, because clearly they aren't capable of attracting the necessary talent.
And your anecdote clearly disproves the data that has been collected on the subject.
I can see it now: Lay off the maintenance worker, and as a requirement for receiving his benefits, he has to do the same job he was just working at. Now at 60% or so of what he was getting before, and with a lot less leeway.
So you're basically an entitled pile of shit, then, right? Using the same standard as people like you use to judge workers who demand a living wage, by you demanding that people work for less, thus giving you more profit, you're being entitled.
And why is any of that true? Because employers, who used to show some semblance of loyalty toward their workers (you know, the people who actually make their business happen), have given the workforce the middle finger.
So you think everyone who is out of work and not on benefits will steal or kill.
Not in the least. But many of them will, if their situation gets bad enough.
I got another job.
Good for you. But clearly you've not paid attention to anything that's been said, either in the news or in this discussion. That's difficult, mainly because companies are making it difficult.
That's exactly what the AC was saying. "The world doesn't own you a living wage". Yeah? Well the world doesn't owe you competent employees either. Pay them excellently, or bitch and moan that you can't find good employees while you can't compete.
Why is it acceptable for companies to spout bullshit like "We can't find good employees," but the second a worker brings up needing to be paid a living wage, they're scorned as some entitled prick?
And the world doesn't owe you workers. Pay excellent wages, or find yourself not having the talent to compete.
I love posts like yours that thinks an employer like me somehow owes something to qn employee
I love posts like yours where you somehow think you're entitled to decent workers, regardless of your pay. You're not.
Yes, you do owe stuff to your employees. If you want to keep the good ones, and not have to constantly scramble to replace them, then you do. Get over yourself.
you're admitting you don't realize they're completely opposing idealogies.
Are they? The Tea Party was supposedly "libertarian", and yet, they were combined with the conservatives whose ideology you claim they oppose.
Actually, given the people who are in power now, he IS representative of the majority of right wing crock pots.
And employers shouldn't want to pay as little as possible. That kind of retarded, short-sighted thinking is what gets you into problems like these. Employers want to make money. And as the old adage goes, you have to spend money to make money. The good employee might cost 2-3x what a cheap one does, but in most cases, that good employee will return far more in productivity and profits than the cheap one does.
No, it's entirely the employers fault. They created the problem, through decades of hostility toward the workforce, and now they're trying to blame the workforce for those problems.