I have a quick question: Why does my spending have anything to do with anything? If workers are supposed to accept the whole "Market wages" bullshit, why aren't companies?
And why don't people do that anymore? Entirely because the companies themselves have discouraged that, through their actions. The companies have no loyalty to workers anymore, so why the hell should a worker feel any bit of loyalty toward an employer?
Funny how employers are always quick to point out that workers have to take pay cuts, but when it comes to things like the article, it's never a case of them having to pay more.
The only reason they've been bit by that is because they've trained the worker to realize they are disposable in the first place. Why the fuck employers demand loyalty from people when they've shown they have absolutely no interest in being loyal to their workers is beyond me.
Do I? By the time the training period is over, I've got a pretty good idea what the job is like, what the people are like, and what the company culture is over all. Odds are, I know very little about what the other company is actually like. There would have to be quite a bump in order for a risk like that to be worth it, especially if I like the culture at the current company.
Hell, it's not always about the money, either. Yes, you have to be competitive, but having a work environment that doesn't make workers want to kill themselves, and in fact makes them happy to show up to work is a huge part of it. And this is something that employers have great control over.
And more bullshit from managers trying to blame the employees for their incompetence.
The trend of Americans hopping jobs "easily", as you put it, is entirely the fault of management. There was a time when loyalty was valued, on both sides. You worked hard for the company, and the company would go to bat for you, and take care of you. Then management broke that, and told employees they can fornicate themselves with an iron stick. And now they're bitching that employees have no loyalty toward them anymore.
And it sounds like you used at least some of that time to expand your knowledge and skills, rather than do something half assed and boring. Doesn't sound like sloth to me.
no I do not. I draw only one type of confidence from all these regulations, the confidence that I will be conned by the system, that is set up to prevent real competition and it promotes the type of criminality that government wants - fake money, fake prices, monopolies, etc.
Yeah, you still haven't addressed his point. Yes, stuff like that gets discovered. It still ends up fucking everyone else over. I don't give a shit about "you're not forced into it", that still doesn't justify allowing it.
No, it's not. We'd like to see that money spread out a lot more evenly, used to increase the quality of life for everyone, not just a few dumbasses at the top shaving off everyone else's trades.
That's a good platitude, but in this case it's completely irrelevant. There is absolutely no good reason why the programmers implementing these systems shouldn't be making as much or more than the traders they're working for. They're the ones doing the actual work, and without them, the traders don't get to gamble our money away.
No it doesn't. Competition forces innovation. Capitalism is just fine to sit on it's laurels and rake in money along side the other companies you've "agreed" to do the same thing with. Otherwise why would Verizon stop it's rollout of FIOS?
There are plenty of Republicans and libertarians who believe just that. Any time a story about contaminated food breaks, there are a lot of them who want to punish the FDA by giving them LESS power.
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I have a quick question: Why does my spending have anything to do with anything? If workers are supposed to accept the whole "Market wages" bullshit, why aren't companies?
And frankly, you'd be wrong. Regulations and legal environment have absolutely nothing to do with the situation.
And why don't people do that anymore? Entirely because the companies themselves have discouraged that, through their actions. The companies have no loyalty to workers anymore, so why the hell should a worker feel any bit of loyalty toward an employer?
Funny how employers are always quick to point out that workers have to take pay cuts, but when it comes to things like the article, it's never a case of them having to pay more.
Part of that is because employers throw everything and the kitchen sink into the list of requirements, even though they don't actually need it.
Or perhaps employers are colluding to drive down wages.
Nope. Because to the conservatives who push through such bullshit, the idea is that they can get skilled workers for cheap.
Many people are able to get the job done. But if I'm gonna have to spend 8+ hours a day with this person, I'd prefer someone I can stand to be around.
The skill that is out there wants pre-crash wages in an economy that doesn't support it anymore.
Why does that matter? You need the skills, so the state of the economy is irrelevant.
The only reason they've been bit by that is because they've trained the worker to realize they are disposable in the first place. Why the fuck employers demand loyalty from people when they've shown they have absolutely no interest in being loyal to their workers is beyond me.
So once again, the problem is entirely management's fault for making workers disposable in the first place.
Do I? By the time the training period is over, I've got a pretty good idea what the job is like, what the people are like, and what the company culture is over all. Odds are, I know very little about what the other company is actually like. There would have to be quite a bump in order for a risk like that to be worth it, especially if I like the culture at the current company.
Yeah, I don't think that happens all that much with good companies.
Hell, it's not always about the money, either. Yes, you have to be competitive, but having a work environment that doesn't make workers want to kill themselves, and in fact makes them happy to show up to work is a huge part of it. And this is something that employers have great control over.
And more bullshit from managers trying to blame the employees for their incompetence.
The trend of Americans hopping jobs "easily", as you put it, is entirely the fault of management. There was a time when loyalty was valued, on both sides. You worked hard for the company, and the company would go to bat for you, and take care of you. Then management broke that, and told employees they can fornicate themselves with an iron stick. And now they're bitching that employees have no loyalty toward them anymore.
And it sounds like you used at least some of that time to expand your knowledge and skills, rather than do something half assed and boring. Doesn't sound like sloth to me.
No, they're not. However, there are times when unemployment benefits are better than the jobs currently offered. That's not the fault of the worker.
no I do not. I draw only one type of confidence from all these regulations, the confidence that I will be conned by the system, that is set up to prevent real competition and it promotes the type of criminality that government wants - fake money, fake prices, monopolies, etc.
Yeah, you do, whether you believe it or not.
Yeah, you still haven't addressed his point. Yes, stuff like that gets discovered. It still ends up fucking everyone else over. I don't give a shit about "you're not forced into it", that still doesn't justify allowing it.
Which is exactly what you'd want.
No, it's not. We'd like to see that money spread out a lot more evenly, used to increase the quality of life for everyone, not just a few dumbasses at the top shaving off everyone else's trades.
And people shaving slivers off gold coins still invested and spent that which they shaved off. Doesn't make it right.
That's a good platitude, but in this case it's completely irrelevant. There is absolutely no good reason why the programmers implementing these systems shouldn't be making as much or more than the traders they're working for. They're the ones doing the actual work, and without them, the traders don't get to gamble our money away.
No, it's capitalism.
Capitalism forces innovation
No it doesn't. Competition forces innovation. Capitalism is just fine to sit on it's laurels and rake in money along side the other companies you've "agreed" to do the same thing with. Otherwise why would Verizon stop it's rollout of FIOS?
There are plenty of Republicans and libertarians who believe just that. Any time a story about contaminated food breaks, there are a lot of them who want to punish the FDA by giving them LESS power.