It's not based solely on the color of the speaker. It's also based on the history of that word. You cannot deny that the word nigger has a very, very negative connotation, especially when coming from a white person to a black person.
Honestly, you're starting to sound like one of those jackasses who likes being offensive purely for the sake of being offensive.
That means that is is only offensive because I am not black.
That's not racism, that's how it was historically used. Whites would use the word "nigger" as a derogatory name for blacks, as a way of treating them less than human. Same thing with the word "fag" for gay people.
And the problem came after the name because the program was not widely popular when it was first named. Among a small group of people, it was likely they had our high tolerance for offense, and didn't care. But in the larger world, many more people, with a much lower tolerance for offense, were exposed to it.
Unfortunately, we still have to live around and work with those people. And telling them to "get over it" doesn't really work. Part of getting along with other people is understanding where they are coming from.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that exactly what's going to happen? Google is going to install an appliance in the DoI's datacenters which would provide them with Google Docs?
The worst presentations are ones where someone just reads from their slides. I have eyes. I can read too. And I can do it without hearing you stumble and "um" your way through every 3rd word.
It still needs support. Any company of any size, let alone a huge government agency, is NOT going to use something that doesn't have a support contract. And those things cost money.
Further, they wanted an online collaboration solution. Libre Office doesn't do that.
Then you probably shouldn't be using a cloud solution. However, the Department of the Interior is NOT on dial-up, so this argument is batshit retarded.
I would imagine that, since the DOI is actually giving Google money, unlike a lot of us, they'll have a lot more leverage concerning when updates happen.
Not even that, but most of these solutions depend on a specific version of MS Office to work. So if you're trying to upgrade your installations, you'd either have to persuade the vendor to support the new version of Office (and do this every time you want to upgrade), you go without, or you hope and pray that the document spit out by the tool is compatible with the new version of Office. That doesn't just go for your group, but also any external entities that consume your documents, as well.
What I don't get is why LibreOffice hasn't even been mentioned.
It's quite possible that no company was willing to use LibreOffice in their solution.
You did a good job of pointing out why Google, Amazon, Microsoft, et al love the hosted app solutions; but what real advantage does it provide the Dept of Interior?
The work of hosting the servers and making sure they're up is done by someone else.
The parents of those children are the ones SENDING their kids to work
And the Free Market Capitalist is the one benefiting from their labor, creating a market for those children's labor, and forcing them to do the dangerous work. Why the fuck should they not be held responsible as well?
because it's bullshit and not a 'right' in any way.
Because it makes you feel less special? Only an idiot would say it's "not right".
The rights are being stolen - taken away, with every single bill that passes that has the word 'right' in it.
No, they aren't. Only assholes who would seek to deny those rights to other people would think that. And you know what? I really don't care what they think, because their opinion isn't worth shit.
The so called 'Civil Rights Act' was an entitlement and obligation act in reality
Yes, those entitled assholes! Thinking that they should be treated like people!
It's not a right for somebody to be given an entitlement for a LAWSUIT against somebody else, when that somebody else exercises their right to do business as they wish on their own private fucking property, you douche.
Yes, it is, if that person is conducting business in a way that harms other people.
For some reason, you have this completely retarded notion that business owners are the highest class of people, and should be given all the rights, while we should be forced to subsist on their table scraps. Get this out of your head. That is not a recipe for a successful society.
- so why are these laws enforced against employers rather than against parents?
Because the employer is the one benefiting from the labor. Although I'd think it'd be just peachy to hold parents responsible, too.
Tell me, why should an employer who is benefiting from this get off scott free?
This is fucked up nonsense, the reason child labour was stopped wasn't laws, same with slavery. Slavery didn't stop because of laws. Women got rights not because of laws.
That's a large part of why they got those rights, and why those rights were recognized. Despite what your delusions tell you, government did facilitate this shit happening.
Free market capitalism stopped child labour, not any amount of laws.
I'm sorry, but your story is full of crap. There is plenty that you could have done while younger that would provide employability when you reached 30 without working as a kid.
Just to take out this part out of the comment, what is wrong with "child labor"?
It's dangerous as fuck? And at that age, children should be in school, learning shit, instead of toiling away on an assembly line. Not to mention that many children were seriously taken advantage of as their wages were paid to their parents, not to the children themselves.
And yes, your cute little example is nice, but that's not banned here. So why don't you take your worthless USA bashing and go fuck yourself? I'm sure we could find plenty of stuff that's wrong with your shithole of a country.
As things stand nowadays, I have no problem agreeing with that sentence. You know why?
Because you're an asshole who believes that only the rich deserve to get things?
Because the way this actually plays out outside of fairy tales is that some moron that doesn't know anything about a field "invents" and patents some old and well known stuff to those skilled in the art. Armed with a patent and his sense of entitlement, this "inventor" is just going to be a parasite, a nuisance, and a general net negative for everybody except himself. Just look at all the madness related to software patents, where courts keep ruling in favor of the sociopaths with patents and against those creating real value.
I call horseshit on that statement.
Beyond that: I do not agree with the notion that people deserve to be rich just by having an idea. I do not agree with the notion that, just by having an idea, "inventors" deserve the right to harass people left and right that had the same idea because it actually was easy and obvious, as most ideas, and the vast majority of patents, are.
. I want cloning companies to sprint past "inventors"
Often, that doesn't happen. What usually happens is the cloning company clones the invention just cheaply enough to offer a lower cost knock off. That isn't necessarily a good thing.
And while the other guy has problems with his scenario, your scenario has huge fucking problems with it as well. For instance, your scenario would make it so that only those with huge amounts of money would be able to do anything. Otherwise, how are you going to compete against a larger company being able to manufacture shit cheaper than you?
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Would it hurt so much to rename it "GNU Licensed Image Development Environment"
Yes. Because then it would conjure up memories of licensing debacles the user has experienced with other programs.
It's not based solely on the color of the speaker. It's also based on the history of that word. You cannot deny that the word nigger has a very, very negative connotation, especially when coming from a white person to a black person.
Honestly, you're starting to sound like one of those jackasses who likes being offensive purely for the sake of being offensive.
That means that is is only offensive because I am not black.
That's not racism, that's how it was historically used. Whites would use the word "nigger" as a derogatory name for blacks, as a way of treating them less than human. Same thing with the word "fag" for gay people.
And the problem came after the name because the program was not widely popular when it was first named. Among a small group of people, it was likely they had our high tolerance for offense, and didn't care. But in the larger world, many more people, with a much lower tolerance for offense, were exposed to it.
Unfortunately, we still have to live around and work with those people. And telling them to "get over it" doesn't really work. Part of getting along with other people is understanding where they are coming from.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that exactly what's going to happen? Google is going to install an appliance in the DoI's datacenters which would provide them with Google Docs?
But... why would you want to do that?
Because something similar is already in place, and you're not allowed to change it?
Often times there is a reason why someone would ask to do something like that.
The worst presentations are ones where someone just reads from their slides. I have eyes. I can read too. And I can do it without hearing you stumble and "um" your way through every 3rd word.
The low-density of the presentation slides is supposed to be an augmentation to your presentation, not something to stand on their own.
It still needs support. Any company of any size, let alone a huge government agency, is NOT going to use something that doesn't have a support contract. And those things cost money.
Further, they wanted an online collaboration solution. Libre Office doesn't do that.
Then you probably shouldn't be using a cloud solution. However, the Department of the Interior is NOT on dial-up, so this argument is batshit retarded.
Not to agree with the troll, but Google does plenty of things that would be considered evil.
There's nothing to argue. You haven't provided anything to actually back up your point.
You provided a biased, crappy source. You have one guy claiming that Google is supporting it, and there's nothing corroborating that.
You don't have to be a shill to know that our bloated, inefficient government rarely makes smart IT decisions.
About on the same level as any large company.
You do have to be some kind of shill to have the absolutist mindset that government never does anything good.
I would imagine that, since the DOI is actually giving Google money, unlike a lot of us, they'll have a lot more leverage concerning when updates happen.
Not even that, but most of these solutions depend on a specific version of MS Office to work. So if you're trying to upgrade your installations, you'd either have to persuade the vendor to support the new version of Office (and do this every time you want to upgrade), you go without, or you hope and pray that the document spit out by the tool is compatible with the new version of Office. That doesn't just go for your group, but also any external entities that consume your documents, as well.
What I don't get is why LibreOffice hasn't even been mentioned.
It's quite possible that no company was willing to use LibreOffice in their solution.
You did a good job of pointing out why Google, Amazon, Microsoft, et al love the hosted app solutions; but what real advantage does it provide the Dept of Interior?
The work of hosting the servers and making sure they're up is done by someone else.
The parents of those children are the ones SENDING their kids to work
And the Free Market Capitalist is the one benefiting from their labor, creating a market for those children's labor, and forcing them to do the dangerous work. Why the fuck should they not be held responsible as well?
because it's bullshit and not a 'right' in any way.
Because it makes you feel less special? Only an idiot would say it's "not right".
The rights are being stolen - taken away, with every single bill that passes that has the word 'right' in it.
No, they aren't. Only assholes who would seek to deny those rights to other people would think that. And you know what? I really don't care what they think, because their opinion isn't worth shit.
The so called 'Civil Rights Act' was an entitlement and obligation act in reality
Yes, those entitled assholes! Thinking that they should be treated like people!
It's not a right for somebody to be given an entitlement for a LAWSUIT against somebody else, when that somebody else exercises their right to do business as they wish on their own private fucking property, you douche.
Yes, it is, if that person is conducting business in a way that harms other people.
For some reason, you have this completely retarded notion that business owners are the highest class of people, and should be given all the rights, while we should be forced to subsist on their table scraps. Get this out of your head. That is not a recipe for a successful society.
- so why are these laws enforced against employers rather than against parents?
Because the employer is the one benefiting from the labor. Although I'd think it'd be just peachy to hold parents responsible, too.
Tell me, why should an employer who is benefiting from this get off scott free?
This is fucked up nonsense, the reason child labour was stopped wasn't laws, same with slavery. Slavery didn't stop because of laws. Women got rights not because of laws.
That's a large part of why they got those rights, and why those rights were recognized. Despite what your delusions tell you, government did facilitate this shit happening.
Free market capitalism stopped child labour, not any amount of laws.
No, it didn't.
I'm sorry, but your story is full of crap. There is plenty that you could have done while younger that would provide employability when you reached 30 without working as a kid.
Just to take out this part out of the comment, what is wrong with "child labor"?
It's dangerous as fuck? And at that age, children should be in school, learning shit, instead of toiling away on an assembly line. Not to mention that many children were seriously taken advantage of as their wages were paid to their parents, not to the children themselves.
And yes, your cute little example is nice, but that's not banned here. So why don't you take your worthless USA bashing and go fuck yourself? I'm sure we could find plenty of stuff that's wrong with your shithole of a country.
Coca Cola recipe: right here [snopes.com], most likely genuine.
Possibly, but we can't really verify that because Coke isn't talking.
As things stand nowadays, I have no problem agreeing with that sentence. You know why?
Because you're an asshole who believes that only the rich deserve to get things?
Because the way this actually plays out outside of fairy tales is that some moron that doesn't know anything about a field "invents" and patents some old and well known stuff to those skilled in the art. Armed with a patent and his sense of entitlement, this "inventor" is just going to be a parasite, a nuisance, and a general net negative for everybody except himself. Just look at all the madness related to software patents, where courts keep ruling in favor of the sociopaths with patents and against those creating real value.
I call horseshit on that statement.
Beyond that: I do not agree with the notion that people deserve to be rich just by having an idea. I do not agree with the notion that, just by having an idea, "inventors" deserve the right to harass people left and right that had the same idea because it actually was easy and obvious, as most ideas, and the vast majority of patents, are.
Then why didn't you come up with it?
Sadly, today, that employee would have been forced to sign an agreement saying that anything he invents is property of the company, and not his.
. I want cloning companies to sprint past "inventors"
Often, that doesn't happen. What usually happens is the cloning company clones the invention just cheaply enough to offer a lower cost knock off. That isn't necessarily a good thing.
And while the other guy has problems with his scenario, your scenario has huge fucking problems with it as well. For instance, your scenario would make it so that only those with huge amounts of money would be able to do anything. Otherwise, how are you going to compete against a larger company being able to manufacture shit cheaper than you?