Otherwise, conversations with other people on the bus is generally acceptable, so what makes a conversation where one of the parties is remote different?
The volume. If you're talking on your phone quietly, then there's no problem. But if your conversation can be heard from the other end of the bus, it's you who's in the wrong.
If the phone conversation is carried out such that it would be considered acceptable by most if it were a face-to-face conversation, I don't see why one would be OK and not the other
I don't see why you mentioned this in the first fucking place, as the whole point of the fucking article is people who talk TOO LOUDLY.
What's with all your fake indignation? We're not talking about people just talking on the phone. We're talking about those that insist on doing so loudly, and annoyingly.
If your phone conversation can be heard from the other side of the bus, then you're talking too loudly, and should stop. End of Story.
I'm sorry, but you're completely and utterly wrong. You can fire someone remotely on the spot. There's nothing different about it and someone working in the office. The only effort is the effort you're building up in your head.
How is it supposed to get better for consumers if the number of companies that can actually compete in the marketplace gets consolidated down even further?
And this?
Companies will stop spending on R&D because they will need to give all their research away for free if they want to buy another company.
Completely unsubstantiated, fear mongering bullshit.
Would the majority consider this use of a cell phone impolite, and if so, how should I arrange these rides more politely?
Are you shouting while doing so? Then no. The thing that people are getting pissed off about is when you're on one end of the bus, and everyone throughout can hear exactly what you're saying, like you're shouting in their ear.
If you're that concerned, there's also text messaging.
On the rare occasions that something useful happens in IM and there's good info I want to save I have to waste a lot of time editing and converting that conversation to an actual legible text file
Just about all IM systems out there will automatically log conversations. You don't have to copy and paste them yourself.
Again, you have decided to completely jump off the rails, and change the topic at hand to why governments suck, not giving even the slightest segue with your change. Nothing you've said gives any credence to the idea that employers are the ones in chains, as opposed to the workers.
Also, your Yahoo article is full of shit. Do some research on that asshole. You'll see that he's not being paid too little, he's spending beyond his means. The very thing assholes like you claim is the only reason poor people are poor.
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why don't they let others to write drivers for their hardware?
Because that would require opening up the specs of the chips, which might reveal trade secrets in how the GPU does things.
Otherwise, conversations with other people on the bus is generally acceptable, so what makes a conversation where one of the parties is remote different?
The volume. If you're talking on your phone quietly, then there's no problem. But if your conversation can be heard from the other end of the bus, it's you who's in the wrong.
If the phone conversation is carried out such that it would be considered acceptable by most if it were a face-to-face conversation, I don't see why one would be OK and not the other
I don't see why you mentioned this in the first fucking place, as the whole point of the fucking article is people who talk TOO LOUDLY.
What's with all your fake indignation? We're not talking about people just talking on the phone. We're talking about those that insist on doing so loudly, and annoyingly.
If your phone conversation can be heard from the other side of the bus, then you're talking too loudly, and should stop. End of Story.
So you're calling somebody speaking on the cell phone a breach of the peace? Man, I thought I excessively used hyperbole.
No, we're talking about people being excessively loud, dumbass. The whole fucking point of this article.
All those people, talking to each other, sometimes when they're not even physically next to each other! The nerve!
Go fuck yourself, asshole. I don't care if you have the right to talk on your cell phone, you don't have the right to do loudly.
That's very, very shitty.
I'm sorry, but you're completely and utterly wrong. You can fire someone remotely on the spot. There's nothing different about it and someone working in the office. The only effort is the effort you're building up in your head.
better due dilligence = money and time invested.
Ahhh. So you're a cheap ass.
you forget that. commenting on /. doesn't look like working.
Not always. Many times it does.
you're forgetting that I do this for a living, and it works.
If you're in danger of losing the whole damn company due to one employee, then no, it does not work.
and you forget that one employee can kill the whole business for every other employee too.
Only if you're doing it very, very wrong.
How is it supposed to get better for consumers if the number of companies that can actually compete in the marketplace gets consolidated down even further?
And this?
Companies will stop spending on R&D because they will need to give all their research away for free if they want to buy another company.
Completely unsubstantiated, fear mongering bullshit.
Do you have any evidence of this actually happening? Of a jammer interfering with a pacemaker?
Someone who's sleepy, who's having to endure someone talking so loudly it's like they're shouting in his ear.
Would the majority consider this use of a cell phone impolite, and if so, how should I arrange these rides more politely?
Are you shouting while doing so? Then no. The thing that people are getting pissed off about is when you're on one end of the bus, and everyone throughout can hear exactly what you're saying, like you're shouting in their ear.
If you're that concerned, there's also text messaging.
This just in: you have no right to not be annoyed.
You also don't have a right to use the phone on the bus.
A short cell phone call at a reasonable volume is not.
The entire point is that we're NOT talking about reasonable volume.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but neither one of those situation is even remotely likely.
Why not walk up to them and ask them to bring the volume down?
You ever try to do this before? The person will likely start yelling and bitching at you for listening in on *their* phone call.
Half of your "distractions" are just as present in the office.
Bullshit. You've claimed you can do that for people in the office all the time. Working at home is not different.
if they are at home, then I need to actually prove it. that's a waste of my time.
If you're half the boss you claim you are, then no, you don't.
you ask the employee how long it'll take. and then you hold them to it.
That's a pretty good idea.
if it takes them longer, they don't get paid.
And now you've just turned it into total crap.
but if you can see them in their box, you can easily prove that they are working
Not really. Commenting on /. can look an awful lot like working.
and no, employees don't know how to suddenly pass the checks
otherwise, I'm placing my entire life in the hands of my employees.
Maybe you should do better due diligence into hiring people you can actually trust.
On the rare occasions that something useful happens in IM and there's good info I want to save I have to waste a lot of time editing and converting that conversation to an actual legible text file
Just about all IM systems out there will automatically log conversations. You don't have to copy and paste them yourself.
Plus 20 minutes is an exaggeration. There's a cost, but it's more on the order of 5-10 minutes of reduced (not zero) efficiency.
This HIGHLY depends on the person and the work in question.
If you're not feeling well, why not take a sick day? That's what they're there for.
If you're job can be done without communication then I can send that job to the cheapest place that can read the directions.
Most of the jobs we're talking about aren't the type where the directions are actually written.
If any of that is true, you have a much, much better job than I do.
I'm just sick of being stuck in a cube, and not doing anything at work.
If I'm not going to have anything to do, I can waste time much more effectively at home.
Again, you have decided to completely jump off the rails, and change the topic at hand to why governments suck, not giving even the slightest segue with your change. Nothing you've said gives any credence to the idea that employers are the ones in chains, as opposed to the workers.
Also, your Yahoo article is full of shit. Do some research on that asshole. You'll see that he's not being paid too little, he's spending beyond his means. The very thing assholes like you claim is the only reason poor people are poor.