As they become richer, their wages rise, and there is less wage/outsourcing pressure in America.
That's not true. While outsourcing to India might not be as attractive, outsourcing to China still might be. If not them, other southeastern Asian nations. If not them, Africa.
Cut corp taxes to almost nothing, and give what's left as incentives to hire US (citizen) workers in the US....and lets see how fast they rush back with jobs here.
Further, they're the ones who fucked everybody. Why the fuck should we give them a reward? Let them bring the jobs back FIRST, then we can talk about cutting corporate income tax.
While I don't like that move....I do have to ask, when exactly did people get the idea that they were hired on for a job for life, at the same company, or even doing the same exact job/function for their life? The world moves and it changes...you have to be prepared to move and change too as you go through life.
Basically, you're admitting your previous line was full of shit.
Cut corp taxes to almost nothing, and give what's left as incentives to hire US (citizen) workers in the US....and lets see how fast they rush back with jobs here.
It won't happen. Like you said, most companies already don't pay corporate tax. So they'll just take the windfall, and tell the rest of everyone to go fuck themselves.
I'm not talking flipping burgers either...those jobs were and should still be for highschool and college kids needing extra money to work their way through school, those aren't MEANT for grown adults to work in....
Too bad. The fact of the matter is, adults need those jobs too.
So...it was better to 'dig in the heels', and have the company fail and ALL jobs now gone..rather than keep working on hope that the company could resurrect and the jobs there could be saved? That's the noble thing the unions did?
WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THE UNIONS GIVE IN IF THE MANAGEMENT ISN'T GOING TO HELP OUT EITHER? WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THE BURDEN BE COMPLETELY ON THE WORKERS?
So the end result of no company and no jobs at all is the best the union could do for their members that worked for what was left of Hostess?
What happened to Hostess was completely, utterly, and undeniably the fault of management. Not the unions. Not in any little bit.
Because, unions, while useful about 100 years ago....outlasted their need and expanded and became corrupt and ingrained into a system that choked the life out of companies.
Absolute horseshit.
One only has to look at GM for a prime example. The unreasonable pensions, and benefits for fucking manual labor...drove them almost out of business.
And tell me, what was management willing to sacrifice in order to save the company? What was management willing to do to save the company?
Assholes like you will constantly jump on unions not being willing to cut their pay, yet won't mention a thing about management not cutting their own pay either.
Look at Hostess...the company was forced to close its doors and go bankrupt. The unions would NOT negotiate or budge enough on their demands to allow the company to continue. Rather than the unions negotiate...they stood their ground, forced the company into bankruptcy, and ALL jobs with them are now gone forever.
Yes, let's look at Hostess. The unions had ALREADY agreed to cuts a number of years ago. They didn't want to be cut any more. On top of that, over the past several years, compensation for the CEO of a company that was failing was raised 300%! Why the fuck, as a regular worker, would I agree to take a cut to pay and benefits, if my CEO and the other executives are giving themselves raises? In addition, not only are they asking to liquidate the factories, but the company is asking the bankruptcy court to grant the executives over $1 million in bonuses!
Blaming the unions in this situation is absolute horseshit, and shows that you are completely dishonest when it comes to this topic. Hang your head in shame.
Exactly how is that in the best favor of the worker or the US economy?
Part of why the mob got involved with the unions is that they were the only people the unions could turn to. The companies would hire crooked cops to bust the unions. In a situation like that, what is the union going to do?
I think the belief is that, in an IT type union, the slackers don't get fired, those who suck up are promoted and those who excel don't benefit from that effort.
I'm perfectly fine with the taxes being paid on only the profit. I'm just wondering why the hell simply having money to invest is rewarded more than actually doing work. Capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as ordinary income, if not higher. There is no reason whatsoever that we should be rewarding people for simply having money.
I fail to see how that does anything but prove RP completely wrong. Are you saying that those people are not able to have their own opinion on current events? I notice you didn't say anything about them actually doing anything.
and IRS already can deny you your passport or even revoke your passport so you can't go outside of country if you owe more than some dollar amount in taxes (25K or so).
You mean there are punishments for breaking the law? Oh my God, that is just draconian!/s
But where are you going to go if your government abuses you?
I'm going to realize that this is not abuse, and quit being a pussy.
So you think the US can stop you from purchasing wine while in Italy on vacation?
No, but that's an absolutely fucking retarded comparison. 1). Purchasing wine is not illegal in the US or Italy. 2). The transaction occurs on Italian soil, therefore the participants are subject to Italian law.
This is a question of a foreign government's encroachment on the sovereignty of a business.
A business is NOT sovereign in any sense of the word.
And this is not stopping the business from doing business, except with citizens of a nation which has not allowed it. There is no problem here.
Or, it is a question of a domestic government's encroachment on the domestic business' right to customers.
No business anywhere has any kind of "right to customers".
Remember: it's "throwing your vote away" to vote against these people, because.. um, because.. someone said so
No, it's not. However, it is quite useless to vote for a minor party candidate, given the First Past the Post system we have, which devolves into a two party system.
Most people feel its far more practical to vote for the major party candidate that somewhat matches their views and have them win, than vote for the 3rd party candidate that closely matches their views, and have the major party candidate that is directly opposite of their views win.
It's not that it's illegal. There are regulations governing the trading of futures, which is what these are marketed as. The site is likely not following those regulations.
Why the fuck would you "call that out", though? That's an absolutely stupid point to make. Of course US law is going to apply to people inside the US. Just like German law would apply to me if I went and visited Germany.
At the same time, the bike shop owner would have to convert the BTC into local currency in order to pay their bills. That means they would have another hurdle towards being able to actually use the currency they were given.
As opposed to the most depressive situation in which Bitcoin utterly fails, some people will go to their graves insisting that it's the greatest thing ever.
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As they become richer, their wages rise, and there is less wage/outsourcing pressure in America.
That's not true. While outsourcing to India might not be as attractive, outsourcing to China still might be. If not them, other southeastern Asian nations. If not them, Africa.
I'm sorry, but you're full of shit. Common laborers don't deserve a nice life?
Actually what really works is when Government is ineffective, with a mixed party ruling system.
Explain the 50s and 60s then.
Because lowering taxes and lowering regulations have worked so well these past 10 years?
There is no fucking way in hell that will happen. Unless you think the majority of the prices of those things is due to labor costs.
Cut corp taxes to almost nothing, and give what's left as incentives to hire US (citizen) workers in the US....and lets see how fast they rush back with jobs here.
Further, they're the ones who fucked everybody. Why the fuck should we give them a reward? Let them bring the jobs back FIRST, then we can talk about cutting corporate income tax.
While I don't like that move....I do have to ask, when exactly did people get the idea that they were hired on for a job for life, at the same company, or even doing the same exact job/function for their life? The world moves and it changes...you have to be prepared to move and change too as you go through life.
Basically, you're admitting your previous line was full of shit.
Cut corp taxes to almost nothing, and give what's left as incentives to hire US (citizen) workers in the US....and lets see how fast they rush back with jobs here.
It won't happen. Like you said, most companies already don't pay corporate tax. So they'll just take the windfall, and tell the rest of everyone to go fuck themselves.
Some people, by necessity, have to lose.
Why?
I'm not talking flipping burgers either...those jobs were and should still be for highschool and college kids needing extra money to work their way through school, those aren't MEANT for grown adults to work in....
Too bad. The fact of the matter is, adults need those jobs too.
I like how you imply that companies should be able to combine their power, but workers should not. Spoken like a true douchebag.
So...it was better to 'dig in the heels', and have the company fail and ALL jobs now gone..rather than keep working on hope that the company could resurrect and the jobs there could be saved? That's the noble thing the unions did?
WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THE UNIONS GIVE IN IF THE MANAGEMENT ISN'T GOING TO HELP OUT EITHER? WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THE BURDEN BE COMPLETELY ON THE WORKERS?
So the end result of no company and no jobs at all is the best the union could do for their members that worked for what was left of Hostess?
What happened to Hostess was completely, utterly, and undeniably the fault of management. Not the unions. Not in any little bit.
Because, unions, while useful about 100 years ago....outlasted their need and expanded and became corrupt and ingrained into a system that choked the life out of companies.
Absolute horseshit.
One only has to look at GM for a prime example. The unreasonable pensions, and benefits for fucking manual labor...drove them almost out of business.
And tell me, what was management willing to sacrifice in order to save the company? What was management willing to do to save the company?
Assholes like you will constantly jump on unions not being willing to cut their pay, yet won't mention a thing about management not cutting their own pay either.
Look at Hostess...the company was forced to close its doors and go bankrupt. The unions would NOT negotiate or budge enough on their demands to allow the company to continue. Rather than the unions negotiate...they stood their ground, forced the company into bankruptcy, and ALL jobs with them are now gone forever.
Yes, let's look at Hostess. The unions had ALREADY agreed to cuts a number of years ago. They didn't want to be cut any more. On top of that, over the past several years, compensation for the CEO of a company that was failing was raised 300%! Why the fuck, as a regular worker, would I agree to take a cut to pay and benefits, if my CEO and the other executives are giving themselves raises? In addition, not only are they asking to liquidate the factories, but the company is asking the bankruptcy court to grant the executives over $1 million in bonuses!
http://news.yahoo.com/hostess-executives-earnings-revealed-blame-bakery-workers-company-210214635.html
Blaming the unions in this situation is absolute horseshit, and shows that you are completely dishonest when it comes to this topic. Hang your head in shame.
Exactly how is that in the best favor of the worker or the US economy?
How is what? Enabling incompetent management?
Their usefulness is over.
Clearly it is not.
Part of why the mob got involved with the unions is that they were the only people the unions could turn to. The companies would hire crooked cops to bust the unions. In a situation like that, what is the union going to do?
I think the belief is that, in an IT type union, the slackers don't get fired, those who suck up are promoted and those who excel don't benefit from that effort.
And that isn't the status quo already?
I'm perfectly fine with the taxes being paid on only the profit. I'm just wondering why the hell simply having money to invest is rewarded more than actually doing work. Capital gains should be taxed at the same rate as ordinary income, if not higher. There is no reason whatsoever that we should be rewarding people for simply having money.
I fail to see how that does anything but prove RP completely wrong. Are you saying that those people are not able to have their own opinion on current events? I notice you didn't say anything about them actually doing anything.
Nobody has to agree, that is true. However, it IS your job to convince others that your opinion is better, if you want your opinion to gain traction.
and IRS already can deny you your passport or even revoke your passport so you can't go outside of country if you owe more than some dollar amount in taxes (25K or so).
You mean there are punishments for breaking the law? Oh my God, that is just draconian! /s
But where are you going to go if your government abuses you?
I'm going to realize that this is not abuse, and quit being a pussy.
That is nowhere near what this is like, and you know it. Quit being a dumbass.
So you think the US can stop you from purchasing wine while in Italy on vacation?
No, but that's an absolutely fucking retarded comparison. 1). Purchasing wine is not illegal in the US or Italy. 2). The transaction occurs on Italian soil, therefore the participants are subject to Italian law.
This is a question of a foreign government's encroachment on the sovereignty of a business.
A business is NOT sovereign in any sense of the word.
And this is not stopping the business from doing business, except with citizens of a nation which has not allowed it. There is no problem here.
Or, it is a question of a domestic government's encroachment on the domestic business' right to customers.
No business anywhere has any kind of "right to customers".
Remember: it's "throwing your vote away" to vote against these people, because.. um, because .. someone said so
No, it's not. However, it is quite useless to vote for a minor party candidate, given the First Past the Post system we have, which devolves into a two party system.
Most people feel its far more practical to vote for the major party candidate that somewhat matches their views and have them win, than vote for the 3rd party candidate that closely matches their views, and have the major party candidate that is directly opposite of their views win.
It's not that it's illegal. There are regulations governing the trading of futures, which is what these are marketed as. The site is likely not following those regulations.
Why the fuck would you "call that out", though? That's an absolutely stupid point to make. Of course US law is going to apply to people inside the US. Just like German law would apply to me if I went and visited Germany.
At the same time, the bike shop owner would have to convert the BTC into local currency in order to pay their bills. That means they would have another hurdle towards being able to actually use the currency they were given.
The chance that they are right is extremely infinitesimal. But in such a situation, guns might be a prudent investment. Gold, however, would not be.
As opposed to the most depressive situation in which Bitcoin utterly fails, some people will go to their graves insisting that it's the greatest thing ever.