so, because you dont like idea of lawyers making a living we should give companies cart blanch do whatever they will to their customers and partners with no penalty?
since when is every class action suit a BAD thing? if people like you had your way, and with this President, you will, we would be living in asbestos houses.
yeah, when are you going to give me all the songs i can find on itunes today thief? fact is most of stuff that is free on p2p is crappy 128 kb mp3.
i got of spending an half an hour to find and download a quality version of the song i seeking. my time is worth something. a buck to save me 15 minutes of hassle and getting exactly what i wanted, is worth that too me. your time may be worth less.
You are not going to find as broad a selection as itunes already has across most genres.
what happens if next years its $20 a month? or in 10 $30 or $40? what if tapster goes out of business and you cant listen to any of music you rented from them?
assuming naspter doesn't go out of business in 5. whoops there goes my investment in their service. meanwhile i keep on trucking with my IMS purchases.
assuming naspter doesn't go out of business in 5. whoops there goes my investment in their service. meanwhile i keep on trucking with my IMS purchases.
not only that, napster will have to compete directly with M$ who also offers music rentals, apple will be differentiated to all those who want to own and not pay this monthly crap.
i have $110 of music on machine i bought off apple. i havent bought a song in months nor spent more than a $10 any month. and i never haev to worry about able to listen to music i PAID for.
Sorry p2p, you guys have crap quality songs and few of songs i want.
a single brand of player, which works better than any other "single brand of player" from any other "single brand" which makes players for the last 3 years and by a FAR margin, and more than likely for the foreseeable future.
mainly due to its patented wheel interface. just try navigating 1000' of songs with any other player and it's obvious why apple is in leadership position, even though it was late to market.
A single brand of player which offers a complete package of superior hardware, software and services which are designed to be seamless integrated.
It also is ONLY player supported by over 400 3rd party products. the ONLY player supported by BMW, Mercedes, Scion, ferrari and a few other to boot.
so lets see... Apple's player which is superior and better supported, has a more flexible DRM by far ( i can use my itunes purchases in videos and DVD i create for example. Good luck doing that with M$ DRM) or a choice of a multitude of inferior, indistinguishable products which play M$ DRM.
a single brand which if your ipod fails under warranty you can walk in to ANY Apple store, regardless if you bought it there or not and they hand you a brand new one.... try doing that with any other single brand
gee, industry leading quality hardware, software, services, third party products and customer support... cant imagine why people would want to be "trapped" into that
i think there was 1 post here on topic. i have no idea why PC people who never even hear of this event, much less been to it are posting here. i guess this is more fun then jerking off to them. slow night?
no, most important graph of all is time being productive versus time making shit work the way it should so i can be productive. Apple has always won that hands down.
you haven't bothered with 10.3 because it hasn't been released. no its not free. which version of XP? the pro multimedia thing or the consumer version? OS X is the pro version. there is no crippled version of os x like windows.
also, no one is forcing you to upgrade. you bought your mac/os for feature it had at that time. apple adds new stuff. you can buy it or not. the value of what you have isn't diminished. wait 2 years if you want. or 3. who gives a fuck?
besides, its not on nasa pages at all, and he gives a good reason why:'Evaluations and comparisons within this paper are for technical government purposes only
and do not constitute an endorsement of any system by NASA or the U.S. Government."
but thats not good enough for you. if aint on NASA's page, its not good methodology? if it was, would it be?
ueah, its one big hoax. no one at nasa runs g4's? why dont you give craig hunter an email. he has link there you can even call langley and check because no on at NASA has personal web pages. na. and besides, this is obviously something he posted for his own reasons and may not be needed on www.nasa.gov becuase other nasa engineers probably arent as anal as you. imagine that.
im sorry, but where is your gig ethernet? firewire 800? and finally what os are you running? windows. you know what mac users say? who the fuck cares?
why dont you people realize mac users buy macs for the OS? the better engineered hardware is a plus. the benefits of having the os and hardware designed by same company is even better. its is a trouble shooting advantage. in the design and publishing biz, that means deadlines get met. plus, you get what you paid for. that montior, does it have a digital interface like apples systems. probably not.
also, to be fair, get your facts straight. the browser, chat program and media players, Apples equivalents (safari, ichat, quicktime) have are and have always been FREE and backwards compatible for all versions of the apple os x. furthermore, you can add on other FREE apps such as imovie, itunes, idvd, iphoto, ical. all are excellent and in some cases have no PC equivalent of similar high quality at the same cost, FREE. nor are any of them (besides QT) built into the OS, your free to delete any of them with no harm to your system.
That policy has the added advantage for the users that they rarely have to upgrade their OS to get new apps, in contrast to the situation on windows were the os is locked out if you dont call Microsoft. to register it.
It's also worth remembering that all mac updates , minus the now annual major ones are free and have always been free. they too add FREE hardware support and new features. furthermore, of all apps apple has released, i cant think of more than 1 or 2 of apples NEW apps which are not backward compatible to at least 10.1. mainly because they were never included with 10.1 to begin with. the system is only 2 years old, how many apps could possibly have been cut off?
very good point. also, im not mistaken, wasnt there a IBM roadmap for g3 released about 4 months ago which had g3's hitting 1.5 ghz mark? i think g3 has more legs than g4 does in apples product line
once again to you i build it thus my dick is bigger folks, you build machine running what OS? OS X? no? can i get the same exact configuration i can from an apple machine? No? dont let the door hit you on the way out.
and this is different than any other company smudging their own benchmarks?
as yo why they have to make statements to world fastest anything, its a new thing called marketing. People get paid by companies to do it. get over it and why be so sensitive to any of it in first place? geezus.
oh one more thing, please knock yourself out matching a baseline g4 or g5 towers specs for $750. because i wouldn't settle for anything less than what apple ships as standard. throw bluetooth and firewire 800 in it as well, as i want that too. and if has a os which is as well designed as apples and runs all my sofware that would be a must too. i hate poorly designed products.
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mod this up. it couldn't be any simpler. what are you going to use for your HD video transfers in 2 years, USB2 or FW?
so, because you dont like idea of lawyers making a living we should give companies cart blanch do whatever they will to their customers and partners with no penalty?
since when is every class action suit a BAD thing?
if people like you had your way, and with this President, you will, we would be living in asbestos houses.
why hasnt this been modded up to 5? /dot
this is amongst the most insight posst i have ever seen on
mod this up
yeah, when are you going to give me all the songs i can find on itunes today thief? fact is most of stuff that is free on p2p is crappy 128 kb mp3.
i got of spending an half an hour to find and download a quality version of the song i seeking.
my time is worth something. a buck to save me 15 minutes of hassle and getting exactly what i wanted, is worth that too me. your time may be worth less.
You are not going to find as broad a selection as itunes already has across most genres.
what happens if next years its $20 a month? or in 10 $30 or $40? what if tapster goes out of business and you cant listen to any of music you rented from them?
assuming naspter doesn't go out of business in 5. whoops there goes my investment in their service. meanwhile i keep on trucking with my IMS purchases.
and songs i paid a buck for are still a buck.
assuming naspter doesn't go out of business in 5. whoops there goes my investment in their service. meanwhile i keep on trucking with my IMS purchases.
not only that, napster will have to compete directly with M$ who also offers music rentals, apple will be differentiated to all those who want to own and not pay this monthly crap.
i have $110 of music on machine i bought off apple. i havent bought a song in months nor spent more than a $10 any month. and i never haev to worry about able to listen to music i PAID for.
Sorry p2p, you guys have crap quality songs and few of songs i want.
mod this up
Apple doesnt own fairplay, they license it. Napster could License it too if they choose to do so.
a single brand of player, which works better than any other "single brand of player" from any other "single brand" which makes players for the last 3 years and by a FAR margin, and more than likely for the foreseeable future.
mainly due to its patented wheel interface. just try navigating 1000' of songs with any other player and it's obvious why apple is in leadership position, even though it was late to market.
A single brand of player which offers a complete package of superior hardware, software and services which are designed to be seamless integrated.
It also is ONLY player supported by over 400 3rd party products. the ONLY player supported by BMW, Mercedes, Scion, ferrari and a few other to boot.
so lets see... Apple's player which is superior and better supported, has a more flexible DRM by far ( i can use my itunes purchases in videos and DVD i create for example. Good luck doing that with M$ DRM) or a choice of a multitude of inferior, indistinguishable products which play M$ DRM.
a single brand which if your ipod fails under warranty you can walk in to ANY Apple store, regardless if you bought it there or not and they hand you a brand new one.... try doing that with any other single brand
gee, industry leading quality hardware, software, services, third party products and customer support... cant imagine why people would want to be "trapped" into that
i think there was 1 post here on topic. i have no idea why PC people who never even hear of this event, much less been to it are posting here. i guess this is more fun then jerking off to them. slow night?
yes, mod this down. its not worthy.
no, most important graph of all is time being productive versus time making shit work the way it should so i can be productive. Apple has always won that hands down.
you haven't bothered with 10.3 because it hasn't been released. no its not free. which version of XP? the pro multimedia thing or the consumer version? OS X is the pro version. there is no crippled version of os x like windows.
also, no one is forcing you to upgrade. you bought your mac/os for feature it had at that time. apple adds new stuff. you can buy it or not. the value of what you have isn't diminished. wait 2 years if you want. or 3. who gives a fuck?
besides, its not on nasa pages at all, and he gives a good reason why:'Evaluations and comparisons within this paper are for technical government purposes only
and do not constitute an endorsement of any system by NASA or the U.S. Government."
but thats not good enough for you. if aint on NASA's page, its not good methodology? if it was, would it be?
ueah, its one big hoax. no one at nasa runs g4's? why dont you give craig hunter an email. he has link there you can even call langley and check because no on at NASA has personal web pages. na. and besides, this is obviously something he posted for his own reasons and may not be needed on www.nasa.gov becuase other nasa engineers probably arent as anal as you. imagine that.
im sorry, but where is your gig ethernet? firewire 800? and finally what os are you running? windows. you know what mac users say? who the fuck cares?
why dont you people realize mac users buy macs for the OS? the better engineered hardware is a plus. the benefits of having the os and hardware designed by same company is even better. its is a trouble shooting advantage. in the design and publishing biz, that means deadlines get met. plus, you get what you paid for. that montior, does it have a digital interface like apples systems. probably not.
10.1 to 10.2 wasn't service pack and if you used 10.2 you would know that.
show me a pc with exact same specs as a g5 duel from dell. i dare you.
but you will probably claim it doesn't matter anyway.
Predictable
pc-asses who post in mac news threads to insult mac users:
Pathetic
if mac users are "zealots" what are people who dont like or seemingly ever use macs who insult thier users as such?
also, to be fair, get your facts straight. the browser, chat program and media players, Apples equivalents (safari, ichat, quicktime) have are and have always been FREE and backwards compatible for all versions of the apple os x.
furthermore, you can add on other FREE apps such as imovie, itunes, idvd, iphoto, ical. all are excellent and in some cases have no PC equivalent of similar high quality at the same cost, FREE. nor are any of them (besides QT) built into the OS, your free to delete any of them with no harm to your system.
That policy has the added advantage for the users that they rarely have to upgrade their OS to get new apps, in contrast to the situation on windows were the os is locked out if you dont call Microsoft. to register it.
It's also worth remembering that all mac updates , minus the now annual major ones are free and have always been free. they too add FREE hardware support and new features. furthermore, of all apps apple has released, i cant think of more than 1 or 2 of apples NEW apps which are not backward compatible to at least 10.1. mainly because they were never included with 10.1 to begin with. the system is only 2 years old, how many apps could possibly have been cut off?
very good point. also, im not mistaken, wasnt there a IBM roadmap for g3 released about 4 months ago which had g3's hitting 1.5 ghz mark? i think g3 has more legs than g4 does in apples product line
once again to you i build it thus my dick is bigger folks, you build machine running what OS? OS X? no? can i get the same exact configuration i can from an apple machine? No? dont let the door hit you on the way out.
and this is different than any other company smudging their own benchmarks?
as yo why they have to make statements to world fastest anything, its a new thing called marketing. People get paid by companies to do it. get over it and why be so sensitive to any of it in first place? geezus.
oh one more thing, please knock yourself out matching a baseline g4 or g5 towers specs for $750. because i wouldn't settle for anything less than what apple ships as standard. throw bluetooth and firewire 800 in it as well, as i want that too. and if has a os which is as well designed as apples and runs all my sofware that would be a must too. i hate poorly designed products.