Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag. They tend to want to reinvent the wheel for every common programming problem instead of pulling in standard libraries.
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That means that I have to educate them on the fact that there is already a wheel and there's no point making your own....
Want to argue that having to do that ad-nauseum isn't painful then feel free to come up with a well constructed argument.
I have a problem with your attitude, not your techniques for educating the less skilled person. Referring them to a reference that explains the problem (book, website, article, etc) and shows them ways to solve it, works just fine. I think it works best for learning the basics versus deciding on a particular design for an extensive, year long project. But yes, I believe that taking a crack at solving the problem themselves, will be invaluable experience. But sometimes people do not know of ways to find an answer to their problem. And sometimes they need to be taught/shown/explained a way to find solutions/answers on their own. Now, dealing with someone who acts like they cannot be bothered explaining basic things ([roll eyes] "Google it! Don't come to me!"), or act like it's a drag answering questions, is what my problem with you is.
That's how you came across in your first post. Do you see my point?
Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag. Why?
Because They tend to want to reinvent the wheel for every common programming problem instead of pulling in standard libraries.
Why is that? Because, they don't know the fact that there is already a wheel and there's no point making your own. Which means that I have to educate them and having to do that ad-nauseum is(n't) painful
So to summarize this, Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag because it means that I have to educate them and that is painful.
No? That's not your point? Or did I twist or misunderstood what you said?
The entire point of "freedom" and "liberty" is that things are fair for all, even those with whom we disagree...
Uhmmm... war in Iraq - is fair (for all)?
We disagree with the way things are run there (Sadam Hussein and his regime), but is it fair to invade their country and spread democracy upon its people?
Yes, I agree that the MS suit should be fair, but interference of US govt into EU's business makes it fair how? Plus, who said that it wasn't fair to begin with? Maybe MS was just whining cause it wasn't getting what it wanted?
Well, I called you a jackarse because you sound like it is such a drag to actually having to educate/help someone. First of all, the person in the original post CHOSE to work with a friend, but he didn't have to. So, you, as I am sure, would not pick to work with someone. Secondly, have you worked with someone who had a greater skill level than you? And did they act like it was a drag to educate you on, what they thought was the basics?
I think people who think that they are such advanced coders and cannot be bothered to be nice and explain things they know to someone who's looking for their help, are jackarses.
But, we all were there, the newbie level. We all started out someplace. It is help and encouragement and positive attitude from people around you that helps you going forward.
And thirdly, it is not know, from original post, whether the "newbie" is at the level where they don't know the basics. Considering that the person who posted is in grad school, and they are taking the same class, I would assume that the other person is also in grad school. So, the problem was the difference between the skill level, not i-am-working-for-google and you-are-just-picking-up-java-for-dummies-book...
So, at that level, it is safe to say that the "newbie" person knows enough basics to not start to reinvent the wheel, as you say.
And I apologize for calling you a jackarse, it was uncalled for, even if I still think that you are.
Just look on the bright side of things... in about 20 - 30 years you would think that taking a hypercard with data/kongobucks from a stranger's aviatar would be a wrong and stupid thing to do.
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Re: If we reduced the population ...
Hello!?!?!? What do you think Hitler was trying to do! Dah!
On the personal note, I don't think that your personal decision to not reproduce would help solve Eearth's problems, but still, a good idea!
Hear!!! Hear!!!
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Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag. They tend to want to reinvent the wheel for every common programming problem instead of pulling in standard libraries.
Post 2:
That means that I have to educate them on the fact that there is already a wheel and there's no point making your own.
Want to argue that having to do that ad-nauseum isn't painful then feel free to come up with a well constructed argument.
I have a problem with your attitude, not your techniques for educating the less skilled person. Referring them to a reference that explains the problem (book, website, article, etc) and shows them ways to solve it, works just fine. I think it works best for learning the basics versus deciding on a particular design for an extensive, year long project. But yes, I believe that taking a crack at solving the problem themselves, will be invaluable experience. But sometimes people do not know of ways to find an answer to their problem. And sometimes they need to be taught/shown/explained a way to find solutions/answers on their own. Now, dealing with someone who acts like they cannot be bothered explaining basic things ([roll eyes] "Google it! Don't come to me!"), or act like it's a drag answering questions, is what my problem with you is.
That's how you came across in your first post. Do you see my point?
Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag. Why?
Because They tend to want to reinvent the wheel for every common programming problem instead of pulling in standard libraries.
Why is that? Because, they don't know the fact that there is already a wheel and there's no point making your own. Which means that I have to educate them and having to do that ad-nauseum is(n't) painful
So to summarize this, Writing code with someone who is majorly less skilled than you is a real drag because it means that I have to educate them and that is painful.
No? That's not your point? Or did I twist or misunderstood what you said?
The entire point of "freedom" and "liberty" is that things are fair for all, even those with whom we disagree... Uhmmm... war in Iraq - is fair (for all)? We disagree with the way things are run there (Sadam Hussein and his regime), but is it fair to invade their country and spread democracy upon its people? Yes, I agree that the MS suit should be fair, but interference of US govt into EU's business makes it fair how? Plus, who said that it wasn't fair to begin with? Maybe MS was just whining cause it wasn't getting what it wanted?
Well, I called you a jackarse because you sound like it is such a drag to actually having to educate/help someone.
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First of all, the person in the original post CHOSE to work with a friend, but he didn't have to. So, you, as I am sure, would not pick to work with someone. Secondly, have you worked with someone who had a greater skill level than you? And did they act like it was a drag to educate you on, what they thought was the basics?
I think people who think that they are such advanced coders and cannot be bothered to be nice and explain things they know to someone who's looking for their help, are jackarses.
But, we all were there, the newbie level. We all started out someplace. It is help and encouragement and positive attitude from people around you that helps you going forward.
And thirdly, it is not know, from original post, whether the "newbie" is at the level where they don't know the basics. Considering that the person who posted is in grad school, and they are taking the same class, I would assume that the other person is also in grad school. So, the problem was the difference between the skill level, not i-am-working-for-google and you-are-just-picking-up-java-for-dummies-book
So, at that level, it is safe to say that the "newbie" person knows enough basics to not start to reinvent the wheel, as you say.
And I apologize for calling you a jackarse, it was uncalled for, even if I still think that you are.
Just look on the bright side of things ... in about 20 - 30 years you would think that taking a hypercard with data/kongobucks from a stranger's aviatar would be a wrong and stupid thing to do.
You know how some people are real jackar$es? ... Well...