Amazon rode on Apple's coattails on that one. Apple had a long history of pushing for DRM free music before Amazon was on the scene. They both had the EMI catalog available without DRM within a few weeks of each other, that is all Amazon sold for a long time and they really were not able to expand much beyond that until Apple finally broke it open.
Most technologies do not sell off failed products to third parties. There is still IP there can be used for future products. Like people, companies learn from their mistakes.
They made a serious bid for what they valued a failed product, they have no idea what Apple was able to do with what was learned in the development of it.
Play Madden 2010 Can use it as a level Put it in your pocket Learn to play the guitar Brushes....I could go on for 1000 lines minimum. What a silly question. These are all real things that real people enjoy doing on or with their mobile devices.
I have owned and written applications for some version of nearly every smartphone that has come before the iPhone.
I have converted friends who were massively disappointed with Storms and Android phones to the iPhone. The real problem with every over smartphone still today is that the interface sucks for everyone. It does not matter if you are tech savvy are not, sucks is sucks.
Since switching companies I have been forced to carry a BlackBerry because our IT department does not want to enable exchange ActiveSync. The experience of email on a blackberry is so far inferior to email on an iphone it is laughable for you to actually attempt to claim it is better.
Would be more convincing if it had any truth to it. Techies are among the iPhones biggest fans. I knew many who felt like you because they read sites like this , and then they tried it for themselves. The iphone has the most practical functionality of any phone on the market, there really is no comparison. Technologists who use the iPhone understand some of the limitations are in place because Apple chose not to compromise the user experience to put in features few people want and even less actually need.
A true technologist knows he can right any application he wants and put it on his iPhone or his 100 closest friends without any intervention from Apple at all.
A true technologist knows that an Android phone limits you to an underpowered Java VM for app development.
You must be thinking of an android phone. You can run any executable you want on an iphone. In Android you can run anything you want in a JVM on your phone. (Personally I don't want to run anything at all in a JVM on my phone that I don't absolutely have to, whats next flash!)
My original iPhone with its original battery far outlasted any of the Nokia phones I have ever owned, you are just delusional. Nokia has all of those licensees because their technology was made part of the standard, part of becoming part of the standard was agreeing to RAND licensing terms.
Nokia is very clearly wrong, Apple has been trying to pay them for years. All of this has been linked countless times in this thread already by me and others, look around.
You should go through this thread where several people have shown the actual lists of patents involved. There are at least 2 Nokia software patents and 3 or 4 Apple hardware patents. In short, you have no idea what you are talking about. I seriously doubt you have any idea at all what claims are at the core of this case, you just dislike Apple.
With several phones out that provide a better and equally secure email experience through ActiveSync withoout the need for the Blackberry server, corporations are starting to open up their email environments and you should expect to see RIM fade away. They had a niche, their phones are crap.
That is interesting, but it does not mean his opinion matters. Does he actually know anything about the cell phone industry, cell phones themselves or delivering products of any kind? Inventing a Markup Language does not make his opinion of the iPhone any more informed than the average/. user.
How is he? He is no more an expert on cellphone platforms than Robert Metcalfe, James Gosling, Tim Berners-Lee, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, or the ice cream man.
Because in every way imaginable the iPhone is a better mobile device than any thing Nokia has ever manufactured. The ability to have full access to the operating system does not make up for bad design, no matter how geeky you are.
Ok I looked it up. Your seriously comparing that ginormous button laden hunk of crap to an iPhone? I hope you were being sarcastic or you have issues. May as well start boasting about your Gordon Gecko phone from the 80's.
Of course the fact that 80% of the people reading this never heard of a danger hip-hop until you posted. Considering the demographics here, it does not even matter if you re right, it is irrelevant.
You should fix your exchange implementation than. (Keep in mind you have to use a third party server to provide service to your blackberries, you probably just checked the box and gave little additional thought to implementing exchange active sync)
I and at least 10 others I work with (who I just walked around and asked) have all syncd with exchange for over a year without a hiccup.
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Amazon rode on Apple's coattails on that one. Apple had a long history of pushing for DRM free music before Amazon was on the scene. They both had the EMI catalog available without DRM within a few weeks of each other, that is all Amazon sold for a long time and they really were not able to expand much beyond that until Apple finally broke it open.
Most technologies do not sell off failed products to third parties. There is still IP there can be used for future products. Like people, companies learn from their mistakes.
They made a serious bid for what they valued a failed product, they have no idea what Apple was able to do with what was learned in the development of it.
Seriously Ok.. Lets see:
Play Madden 2010 ....I could go on for 1000 lines minimum. What a silly question. These are all real things that real people enjoy doing on or with their mobile devices.
Can use it as a level
Put it in your pocket
Learn to play the guitar
Brushes
I have owned and written applications for some version of nearly every smartphone that has come before the iPhone.
I have converted friends who were massively disappointed with Storms and Android phones to the iPhone. The real problem with every over smartphone still today is that the interface sucks for everyone. It does not matter if you are tech savvy are not, sucks is sucks.
Since switching companies I have been forced to carry a BlackBerry because our IT department does not want to enable exchange ActiveSync. The experience of email on a blackberry is so far inferior to email on an iphone it is laughable for you to actually attempt to claim it is better.
Would be more convincing if it had any truth to it. Techies are among the iPhones biggest fans. I knew many who felt like you because they read sites like this , and then they tried it for themselves. The iphone has the most practical functionality of any phone on the market, there really is no comparison. Technologists who use the iPhone understand some of the limitations are in place because Apple chose not to compromise the user experience to put in features few people want and even less actually need.
A true technologist knows he can right any application he wants and put it on his iPhone or his 100 closest friends without any intervention from Apple at all.
A true technologist knows that an Android phone limits you to an underpowered Java VM for app development.
I have sunk to arguing with ACs, time for bed.
You do realize he said "real" programs. Your hello.com is not exactly what he was referring to.
You must be thinking of an android phone. You can run any executable you want on an iphone. In Android you can run anything you want in a JVM on your phone. (Personally I don't want to run anything at all in a JVM on my phone that I don't absolutely have to, whats next flash!)
We absolutely do not live in a Democracy. Buy a dictionary before you accuse other people of not knowing what something means.
My original iPhone with its original battery far outlasted any of the Nokia phones I have ever owned, you are just delusional. Nokia has all of those licensees because their technology was made part of the standard, part of becoming part of the standard was agreeing to RAND licensing terms.
Nokia is very clearly wrong, Apple has been trying to pay them for years. All of this has been linked countless times in this thread already by me and others, look around.
The Patent expired. "
United States Patent No. 174,465 was issued to Alexander Graham Bell in 1876, and became recognized as the most valuable patent in history."
http://inventors.about.com/od/tstartinventions/ss/TelephonePatent.htm
You should go through this thread where several people have shown the actual lists of patents involved. There are at least 2 Nokia software patents and 3 or 4 Apple hardware patents. In short, you have no idea what you are talking about. I seriously doubt you have any idea at all what claims are at the core of this case, you just dislike Apple.
Unless your patent is covered by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_Non_Discriminatory_Licensing (for the 11th time in this thread :).
With several phones out that provide a better and equally secure email experience through ActiveSync withoout the need for the Blackberry server, corporations are starting to open up their email environments and you should expect to see RIM fade away. They had a niche, their phones are crap.
Yes and you can do too many things to list on an iphon eyou can't do on those, so what.
That is interesting, but it does not mean his opinion matters. Does he actually know anything about the cell phone industry, cell phones themselves or delivering products of any kind? Inventing a Markup Language does not make his opinion of the iPhone any more informed than the average /. user.
How is he? He is no more an expert on cellphone platforms than Robert Metcalfe, James Gosling, Tim Berners-Lee, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, or the ice cream man.
Because in every way imaginable the iPhone is a better mobile device than any thing Nokia has ever manufactured. The ability to have full access to the operating system does not make up for bad design, no matter how geeky you are.
Are you sure it does not have VPN support? The iphone supports Cisco and ipsec VPNs, I kind of assumed the iPad would.
Ok I looked it up. Your seriously comparing that ginormous button laden hunk of crap to an iPhone? I hope you were being sarcastic or you have issues. May as well start boasting about your Gordon Gecko phone from the 80's.
The palm required a stylus to actually use, so umm no. And once again, no one on planet earth has ever heard of danger.
Of course the fact that 80% of the people reading this never heard of a danger hip-hop until you posted. Considering the demographics here, it does not even matter if you re right, it is irrelevant.
Bob Rocks, I found my box /cd the other day. I am selling if anyone wants.
Sad Part is that most of those MS employees would still be using iPhone if Microsoft was giving phones to employees for free.
You should fix your exchange implementation than. (Keep in mind you have to use a third party server to provide service to your blackberries, you probably just checked the box and gave little additional thought to implementing exchange active sync)
I and at least 10 others I work with (who I just walked around and asked) have all syncd with exchange for over a year without a hiccup.
Microsoft does see Google as a bigger long term threat to their core business.