My point is they are inappropriate device for my use case. I *don't* want to be in a position where I *have* to wear one for insurance purposes
Training at your level, you're probably so healthy that it should be pretty trivial to demonstrate to your insurance company that you're fit. Aetna covers wellness exams, and it probably wouldn't hurt to have one. If there's any question, you could always execute a gogoplata or flying omoplata on your doctor and then suggest he certify your fitness.
And who knows, implantable fitness detectors will come soon enough, though I worry that if they're made by Samsung they might explode.
If you're planning a comprehensive fitness and diet plan, it's generally considered helpful to know how many calories you're burning.
He wasn't talking about "a comprehensive fitness and diet plan". He was talking about the study of a martial art. The data you need for that will not (and cannot) come from an Apple Watch.
People who do jiu-jitsu (and other martial arts) will tell you that "fun" is a wholly inadequate word to describe the experience. I never said it was about fun. It's about something much greater than simply fun.
I wear it because I want to be better, to improve
If you want to be better, to improve, at a martial art, metrics (and especially a wristwatch!) is the wrong way to go about it.
Kind of like a coloured belt.
If you want to be better, to improve, a "coloured belt" is the wrong way to go about it. If you study jiu-jitsu from those Brazillian guys, you think they're giving out coloured belts? You ask them for a coloured belt and they will throw you the fuck out. By all means go to Wudang mountain and study with the Shaolin monks (I have) and ask them when you get your "coloured belt". Let me know what they say.
Companies have been doing health initiatives like this for years.
If Aetna really wanted to do a "health initiative", maybe they could start by actually paying health insurance claims instead of fucking people around. They're famous for trying to "run out the clock" on sick people,. hoping they'll die before a claim is approved.
I train brazillian Jui Jitsu. I wanted to wear a fitness tracker to figure out how much work I do in a session because they are very intense, the warm-ups are what most fitness places call a 'work-out'. You can wear them in the warm up however the trouble with them is they get torn off when you fight and they *can't* track the amount of work I am doing.
If you train Jui Jitsu, why do you feel the need to quantify the amount of work you're doing? It's like needing a special device to tell you how much fun you're having at a party.
If you need to quantify your martial arts workouts, you're missing the point of martial arts, no? Maybe I'm wrong and am just not hip with the kids these days, who seem to seek numerical validation for everything they do in the form of "likes" and "favs" and "retweets".
In thirty years of martial arts training, study and instruction, it has never occurred to me that knowing the number of calories I'm burning will be in any way enlightening. But then, I'm not really part of Apple's target demographic.
Who are these ADL people anyway, and what do they know about anti-semitism? The real anti-semites are those that wouldn't get that six-pointed stars are merely sheriff's badges and swastikas are really just Hindu good-luck symbols.
Oh, and "88" just stands for the average IQ of a 4chan user, and has absolutely nothing to do with the beloved Fuhrer.
Air travel should not be justifiable under any circumstances if AGW is true. It can only be justified if AGW is false.
I just want to amplify Mr Marxist Hacker's comment.
You could start a graduate level course in logic from those two simple sentences. Here they are again:
Air travel should not be justifiable under any circumstances if AGW is true. It can only be justified if AGW is false.
Impressive. It's like saying, "If drowning is real, then no bathing should be justified under any circumstances. Bathing can only be justified if drowning is false."
This is some very impressive evidence. I'm sure you couldn't be mistaken.
Please cite more than a handful of scientists who actually suggested there would be another ice age back in the 1970s. Otherwise, we're just going to have to disallow your impressive memory of grade school as proof of anything.
And don't forget to schedule that colonoscopy. At your age, it should be done every 5 years. And who knows, you may find that citation.
Read my statement. Now read your response. Do you see any connection?
I said this:
here was never,,,ever a time when more than tiny handful of scientists thought there would be another ice age.
How many of those 18 (count 'em, eighteen!") SPECTACULARLY INCORRECT things scientists said in 1970 include an ice age?
A handful, you say? Speak up, I can't hear you. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot: The predictions of a "new ice age" were concoctions of the media, rather than the result of scientific studies:
Now why don't you try to be a little more honest about that "complete list" of ice age predictions? You're old enough to know better than to peddle that shit here and think it'll just fly unchallenged.
Climate doesn't equal weather, and weather doesn't equal climate. The only fallacy comes from trying to point to a town that had a record cold spell to make a pronouncement about what's happening to the climate.
Apparently less well known in the UCSB and APS communities you are getting your information from is his other impairment. He died on May 26th, 2011, at the age of 87.
His death made him an easy spokesman for you climate deniers, because he's no longer around to contradict.
when a scientist who initially buys into a theory that seems reasonable on its face, and then changes his mind after being confronted by new information, you presume he is SENILE????
Professor Lewis' senility is not connected to his opinions regarding scientific theories.
Are you a physician? Have you examined the professor before rendering your diagnosis?
His impairment is well-known in the UCSB and APS communities.
Before Professor Lewis became senile, he held a different opinion:
in his 1990 book Technological Risk, Lewis wrote that "all models agree that the net effect" of increasing greenhouse gases "will be a general and global warming of the earth; they only disagree about how much. None suggest that it will be a minor effect, to be ignored while we go about our business." Reducing the effects, including significant sea level rise, would "require global cooperation and sacrifice now, to avert something far in the future, and a conjectural something at that. There is no evidence in human history that is in the cards, but one can always hope."[10]
Hal Lewis is 93 years old. He retired 25 years ago.
And Montford is a fiction writer and blogger whose crackpot conspiracy theories have been well and truly debunked.
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I didn't address the reasons someone would study martial arts. I questioned that wearable fitness trackers would in any way enhance the experience.
Training at your level, you're probably so healthy that it should be pretty trivial to demonstrate to your insurance company that you're fit. Aetna covers wellness exams, and it probably wouldn't hurt to have one. If there's any question, you could always execute a gogoplata or flying omoplata on your doctor and then suggest he certify your fitness.
And who knows, implantable fitness detectors will come soon enough, though I worry that if they're made by Samsung they might explode.
He wasn't talking about "a comprehensive fitness and diet plan". He was talking about the study of a martial art. The data you need for that will not (and cannot) come from an Apple Watch.
People who do jiu-jitsu (and other martial arts) will tell you that "fun" is a wholly inadequate word to describe the experience. I never said it was about fun. It's about something much greater than simply fun.
If you want to be better, to improve, at a martial art, metrics (and especially a wristwatch!) is the wrong way to go about it.
If you want to be better, to improve, a "coloured belt" is the wrong way to go about it. If you study jiu-jitsu from those Brazillian guys, you think they're giving out coloured belts? You ask them for a coloured belt and they will throw you the fuck out. By all means go to Wudang mountain and study with the Shaolin monks (I have) and ask them when you get your "coloured belt". Let me know what they say.
I'm not mad, I'm laughing.
No need, I'm already S-level. Plus, at my age, I'm lucky to get in the up-down-up-down. All that left-right-a-b stuff is just too much work.
Wait, are we talking about the same thing?
If Aetna really wanted to do a "health initiative", maybe they could start by actually paying health insurance claims instead of fucking people around. They're famous for trying to "run out the clock" on sick people,. hoping they'll die before a claim is approved.
If you train Jui Jitsu, why do you feel the need to quantify the amount of work you're doing? It's like needing a special device to tell you how much fun you're having at a party.
If you need to quantify your martial arts workouts, you're missing the point of martial arts, no? Maybe I'm wrong and am just not hip with the kids these days, who seem to seek numerical validation for everything they do in the form of "likes" and "favs" and "retweets".
In thirty years of martial arts training, study and instruction, it has never occurred to me that knowing the number of calories I'm burning will be in any way enlightening. But then, I'm not really part of Apple's target demographic.
Who are these ADL people anyway, and what do they know about anti-semitism? The real anti-semites are those that wouldn't get that six-pointed stars are merely sheriff's badges and swastikas are really just Hindu good-luck symbols.
Oh, and "88" just stands for the average IQ of a 4chan user, and has absolutely nothing to do with the beloved Fuhrer.
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Hofstra has been used for this purpose before, and for much bigger conferences than the measly 1000 people in the hall last night.
They charged $200/head for their wi-fi hotspot. $200,000 can pay for a lot of bandwidth for a 90 minute event.
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I've got soul. And I'm super-bad.
There's still a data chute on the side of my house that leads down to the data-fired server.
If you can't come up with a proper automotive analogy for a technology, get off my fucking Internet.
If I 3D-print a Sieve of Eratosthenes, can I use it to drain cooked pasta?
I just want to amplify Mr Marxist Hacker's comment.
You could start a graduate level course in logic from those two simple sentences. Here they are again:
Impressive. It's like saying, "If drowning is real, then no bathing should be justified under any circumstances. Bathing can only be justified if drowning is false."
This is some very impressive evidence. I'm sure you couldn't be mistaken.
Please cite more than a handful of scientists who actually suggested there would be another ice age back in the 1970s. Otherwise, we're just going to have to disallow your impressive memory of grade school as proof of anything.
And don't forget to schedule that colonoscopy. At your age, it should be done every 5 years. And who knows, you may find that citation.
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Read my statement. Now read your response. Do you see any connection?
I said this:
How many of those 18 (count 'em, eighteen!") SPECTACULARLY INCORRECT things scientists said in 1970 include an ice age?
A handful, you say? Speak up, I can't hear you. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot: The predictions of a "new ice age" were concoctions of the media, rather than the result of scientific studies:
http://www.skepticalscience.co...
Now why don't you try to be a little more honest about that "complete list" of ice age predictions? You're old enough to know better than to peddle that shit here and think it'll just fly unchallenged.
Clearly, the slope isn't very slippery, now is it?
Yes, it works both ways:
Climate doesn't equal weather, and weather doesn't equal climate. The only fallacy comes from trying to point to a town that had a record cold spell to make a pronouncement about what's happening to the climate.
His death made him an easy spokesman for you climate deniers, because he's no longer around to contradict.
Professor Lewis' senility is not connected to his opinions regarding scientific theories.
His impairment is well-known in the UCSB and APS communities.
Here's a news flash: the masses of people are ignorant. It's not an accusation, it's a simple observation.
Before Professor Lewis became senile, he held a different opinion:
Hal Lewis is 93 years old. He retired 25 years ago.
And Montford is a fiction writer and blogger whose crackpot conspiracy theories have been well and truly debunked.