So, all I need now is a large graphic of the Napster Logo that I can print on my T-Shirt Transfer Paper, and then iron that to a black (Hanes, Large, Pocket) T-shirt!
Heck, Maybe I'll go out and buy a Metallica T-Shirt (Black, large) and iron the Napster logo over the Metallica logo!
This is NO different from doing a CoLo (Co-Location) or an ISP doing peering. It's not news at all.
Why not make an announcement that "Search Engine X" or "E-Commerce Book Store Y" also has multiple connections to the internet? It's absolutely NO DIFFERENT.
This just some lame-o marketdroids attempt to get publicity, and somebody fell for it.
If that wasn't in the contract s/he signed when they signed up with that ISP, then I would say (IANAL) that they could sue for damages.
The bigger question though is how many ISPs have something like this in their terms and conditions contract. I'll have to go check my ISPs paperwork to see if it's in my contract for service.
You mean like the manager that has them in his Rolodex under "P" for "Password"?
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Star trek as "hard" Science Fiction? That's almost funny. Star Trek was a Drama that used the trappings of SF in order to explore various aspects "of the Human Condition" (As my english teacher used to say), with occasional forays into environmentalism.
As such, it was able to tell some interesting stories (despite a certain actor's well known ability to over-act!;-)
Boy, am I sure glad I left The Valley when I did! We purchased our house here in Albuquerque (1800 sq feet, 3 debrooms, two full baths, 1/4 acre, view of the entire valley below us, all wood doors, etc.) for $154,000. There is no way we could have ever purchased a home in Mountain View, much less anywhere else in The Valley.
Many of us have decided we wanted a house without a a two hour (one-way) commute and just LEFT the area! We have friends who also gave up, and have moved to North Carolina, Texas, Arizona, and New York. This must be a common thing now...
Folks, please try to remember that what really sells consoles is what games it plays. I wouldn't buy any console that doesn't play the games my family wants to play (Old Fart Alert), and for my kids, that means Pokemon. That's why we have an N64, and not a PS or DC box.
If in 2001 it sells with whatever game it is that my kids are screaming over, we'll buy one. Otherwise, forget it. (Unless it sells with a really rocking version of Mechwarrior V, in whihc case I'll get it for me.;-)
For those who wonder how the author/artist can get paid for their work in this age of "Instant" copies....
Accept the fact that perfect copies can and will be made that you will get NO compensation for.
Only release the work after a certain number of pre-orders have been made. These can be either for hard-copies of the work (Book, cd, painting, etc.), or pre-donations for the Internet friendly version.
Once that number of purchases/donations have been made, then release the item in hard copy and electronic copy versions.
The joy here is that the artist is guaranteed a pay check for his work. The publishers still are needed to publicize and distribute the work, as well as to raise "new talent". And all those folks who can not afford the latest CD, can still download it.
Popular artists (Stephen King, Metallica (?), Jimmy Buffett) will automatically have enough pre-orders to make this work. (How many millions of copies of Kings last book sold?)
Publishers then can use their profits like they do now, raising new artists, and still losing money on 9 out of 10 of them. They make their money back when that 10th artist goes triple platinum (Just like they do now).
There is a web site detailing this plan, but I couldn't find it at google or altavista. (I guess I just couldn't think of the right search terms.)
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OK, I'm at home now (Muching on an Ice cream sundae, but like you REALLY care about that.)
From the
40th Anniversary Edition of Farenheit 451
, Hardcover edition, Published by Simon and Schuster, ISBN 0-671-87036-X, pages 173-175 Granger Talking to Montag....
We figured you were in the river when the helicopter cameras swung back in over the city. Something funny there. The chase is still running. The other way though."
"The other way"
"Let's have a look"
Granger snapped the portable viewer on. The picture was a nightmare, condensed, easily passed from hand to hand, in the forest, all whirring color and flight. A voice cried:
"The chase continues north in the city! Police helicopers are converging on Avvenue 87 and Elm Grove Park!"
Granger nodded. "They're faking. You threw them off at the river. They can't admit it. They know they can hold their audience only so long. The show's got to have a snap ending, quick! If they started searchig the whold damn river it might take all night. So they;re sniffing for a scapegoat to end things with a band. Watch. They'll catch Montag in the next five minutes!"
"But how---"
"Watch"
The camera, hovering in the belly of a helicoper, now swung down at an empty street:
"See that?" whispered Granger. "It'll ve you; right up at the end of that street is our victim. See how our camera in coming in? Building the scene. Suspense. Long shot. Right now, some poor fellow is out for a walk. A rarity. An odd one. Don't think the police don't know the habits of queer ducks like that, men who walk mornings for the hell of it, of for reasons of insommnia. Anywaym the police have had him charted for monthsm years. Never know when that sort of information might be handy. And today, it runs out, it's very usable indeed It saves face. Oh God, look there!"
The rest of that page (which I am too tired to transcribe) describes the capture of the "Other Man" as the "Capture of Montag".
My point here is that they let Montag get away.
Later, from page 180...
"... A few crackpots with verses in their heads can't touch them, and they know it and we know it; everyone knows it. So long as the vast population doesn't wander about quoting the Magna Charta and the Constituition, it;s all right. The firemen were enough to check that, now and then. No, the cities don't bother us."
And then the bombs fall, and everyone still in the city (Not Montag, Granger, and the others), goes up in a cloud of smoke.
Now, from those two passages, I wouldn't want to make a full term paper, but I think they justify my point that the "government" knows about them, and lets them go about their business of preserving the books.
Starship troopers een, too juvenile, replace with Stranger?
It may be somewhat juvenile, but the important concept of Service for Citizenship is the main thing here. Personally, I have to agree with the idea.
And I would add, for Science Fiction
Dune Too longwinded for my tastes.
The Stars My Destination
Shockwave Rider Yes
A Scanner Darkly I'll add this to my shopping cart...
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch I'll add this to my shopping cart...
Who Goes There I'll add this to my shopping cart...
Protector I'll add this to my shopping cart...
Hyperion I'll add this to my shopping cart...
Neuromancer Good choice
Snowcrash Overated in my never so humble opinion
Mars trilogy Still working on this one.
Re:But the thing to remember here is....
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This is what I get for NOT having the book here at work with me. I will post the relevant quote here later tonight though (When I get home). I only hope that it won't take me too long to find the darn quote.
Yes, there is a final chase in the book.
But, everyone involved knows it is not the right person, that the person who eventually gets (killed/captured?) is some innocent whom the government/authorities knows always takes his evening stroll along the same route, at the same time. (Thus making him a target if they ever need one.)
It was one of the "elders" (Forgive me not remembering his name) who tells Montag that the authorities know of them, but leave them alone.
Moderation is NOT censorship, Moderation is other people suggesting that a particular comment is good or bad.
Nobody is making you read at level 1, or 2 or 3. You have made that decision. You have made the decision to read posts at a level where most of the junk is not presented to you, and that you willingly lose some of the gems that just never get moderated up.
And of course, your statement was just a troll to begin with, so I don't know why I am even bothering to post a reply to it.
But the thing to remember here is....
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But the thing to remember here is that the government knew that there were people who were memorizing those books for the day when the government finally collapsed and that knowledge would be needed again.
The governement in the book is the government the people wanted, but at least those in power knew it was wrong, and took steps to protect mankind (Not the citizens, per se, but the future generations) from the idiocies of the present.
And why yes, I own two copies presently, paperback, and an autographed hardcover edition.
And, BTW, I am still waiting for somebody to turn A Sound of Thunder into a full length movie.
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Just as a side note, not everyone at Ford, nor at Intel allready has/can afford a PC at home, much less a decent PC. My guess is that we're probably talking about 40 percent of their employees don't have a PC at all in their homes.
If the RIAA really wanted to shut down Napster and the clones, they could do it without resorting to the lawyers.
How?
Easy. All they would have to do is have their IT folks burn some CDs with the Napster Client, and 600 megs of what appear to be real songs by Metallica, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Britney, etc. Now, none of those are really MP3 songs by whichever artist, but are, instead, lectures by the artist about how MP3 Piracy is bad, and against the law. Then, they hand out those CDs at the front lobby of all their office buildings along with instructions on to install Napster, and help protect their jobs by sharing these special songs.
Imagine if there were thousands of RIAA and other music company employees doing this. The pool of MP3s would be so polluted with bogus music that people would stop using Napster because it now took 3-4 times as long to get a song they wanted. (3-4 download tries to actually get the song.)
The same action could take place against Gnutella, FreeNet, etc.
The big deal with Napster is that it is easy to use. It's easy for the recording industry to make it hard to use. They have not done so yet. Therefore they don't want Napster shut down.
My older sister's friends "Not coming home again." (Vietnam, now they have their name on the wall.)
Gas Guzzling cars
Pro-Nuke displays
Watts
Doctors who made house calls
SMOG (You ain't seen smog until you can't see the hill 1/2 mile from your house)
The Brady Bunch
The first black family in the neighborhood
Main Street (It really was the Main street in town, even City Hall was there. City hall has long since moved.)
Paper card catalogs at the library
Governor Reagan
The Haight
Parents buying plane tickets for their sons to Canada.
Families who still talked about "Uncle Joe", who threw himself on a had grenade to save his squad/Charged the machine gun nest/Dragged his buddy back threw enemy fire/pick your favorite World War II story.
Kent State
Rivers on fire
It is just amazing to me that kids born after 1975 have absolutely no understanding of what went before them. While I would not wish those things upon my own children, I also think it is just as important that they understand why we did the things we did. Only in that way can they understand what they have now, and why they need to work to protect it.
My question/concern is how in the heck did Napster deal with 300K+ users in a single weekend? From what I've seen, each server maxes out around a couple thousand users.
Well then, the way to fix it is to get the word into the OED. They seem to want references of the word "Cracker" over the past five years (Probably in a dead tree medium). If you're so ticked off about it, why don't you find dead tree uses of Cracker and send them off to the OED?
Can't do that. At the Lab where I work, Laptops and PalmPilots MUST be owned by the lab in order for you to bring them on site. That way they can search them whenever they feel like it.
And god help you if you bring an unauthorized transmitting device on site with you (Read: Cell phone)
If you work at the labs, they own you. Remember, the Labs are the ones who banned Furbys because they transmit IR signals!
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Because a bunch of VCs threw a WHOLE bunch of money at them. (2 Million + another 15 million if I remember right.)
Right now, they don't.
Even their CEO has stated as much at Red Herring.
Personally, I think they can only make money by selling advertising in their browser, or by selling Napster-Wear.
So, all I need now is a large graphic of the Napster Logo that I can print on my T-Shirt Transfer Paper, and then iron that to a black (Hanes, Large, Pocket) T-shirt!
Heck, Maybe I'll go out and buy a Metallica T-Shirt (Black, large) and iron the Napster logo over the Metallica logo!
This is NO different from doing a CoLo (Co-Location) or an ISP doing peering. It's not news at all.
Why not make an announcement that "Search Engine X" or "E-Commerce Book Store Y" also has multiple connections to the internet? It's absolutely NO DIFFERENT.
This just some lame-o marketdroids attempt to get publicity, and somebody fell for it.
If that wasn't in the contract s/he signed when they signed up with that ISP, then I would say (IANAL) that they could sue for damages.
The bigger question though is how many ISPs have something like this in their terms and conditions contract. I'll have to go check my ISPs paperwork to see if it's in my contract for service.
You mean like the manager that has them in his Rolodex under "P" for "Password"?
Star trek as "hard" Science Fiction? That's almost funny. Star Trek was a Drama that used the trappings of SF in order to explore various aspects "of the Human Condition" (As my english teacher used to say), with occasional forays into environmentalism.
;-)
As such, it was able to tell some interesting stories (despite a certain actor's well known ability to over-act!
Boy, am I sure glad I left The Valley when I did! We purchased our house here in Albuquerque (1800 sq feet, 3 debrooms, two full baths, 1/4 acre, view of the entire valley below us, all wood doors, etc.) for $154,000. There is no way we could have ever purchased a home in Mountain View, much less anywhere else in The Valley.
Many of us have decided we wanted a house without a a two hour (one-way) commute and just LEFT the area! We have friends who also gave up, and have moved to North Carolina, Texas, Arizona, and New York. This must be a common thing now...
Folks, please try to remember that what really sells consoles is what games it plays. I wouldn't buy any console that doesn't play the games my family wants to play (Old Fart Alert), and for my kids, that means Pokemon. That's why we have an N64, and not a PS or DC box.
;-)
If in 2001 it sells with whatever game it is that my kids are screaming over, we'll buy one. Otherwise, forget it. (Unless it sells with a really rocking version of Mechwarrior V, in whihc case I'll get it for me.
Add me as another voice in the chorus of praising MindStorms. (Yeah, Yeah, it's another "Me Too!" post, but MindStorms deserves another post.
I would also have to suggest Perl as a starting language. OK, it don't do graphics, deal with it.
The joy here is that the artist is guaranteed a pay check for his work. The publishers still are needed to publicize and distribute the work, as well as to raise "new talent". And all those folks who can not afford the latest CD, can still download it.
Popular artists (Stephen King, Metallica (?), Jimmy Buffett) will automatically have enough pre-orders to make this work. (How many millions of copies of Kings last book sold?)
Publishers then can use their profits like they do now, raising new artists, and still losing money on 9 out of 10 of them. They make their money back when that 10th artist goes triple platinum (Just like they do now).
There is a web site detailing this plan, but I couldn't find it at google or altavista. (I guess I just couldn't think of the right search terms.)
OK, I'm at home now (Muching on an Ice cream sundae, but like you REALLY care about that.)
From the
- 40th Anniversary Edition of Farenheit 451
, Hardcover edition, Published by Simon and Schuster, ISBN 0-671-87036-X, pages 173-175Granger Talking to Montag....
The rest of that page (which I am too tired to transcribe) describes the capture of the "Other Man" as the "Capture of Montag".
My point here is that they let Montag get away.
Later, from page 180...
And then the bombs fall, and everyone still in the city (Not Montag, Granger, and the others), goes up in a cloud of smoke.
Now, from those two passages, I wouldn't want to make a full term paper, but I think they justify my point that the "government" knows about them, and lets them go about their business of preserving the books.
"Of course," he replied. "Fahrenheit 451. I remember because Jon Bon Jovi wrote a song about that."
"You mean, Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?"
Or, worse, nowadays... "You mean, Paul McCartney was in a band?"
Who?
(Sorry, it had to be said.)
It may be somewhat juvenile, but the important concept of Service for Citizenship is the main thing here. Personally, I have to agree with the idea.
And I would add, for Science Fiction
Too longwinded for my tastes.
Yes
I'll add this to my shopping cart...
I'll add this to my shopping cart...
I'll add this to my shopping cart...
I'll add this to my shopping cart...
I'll add this to my shopping cart...
Good choice
Overated in my never so humble opinion
Still working on this one.
This is what I get for NOT having the book here at work with me. I will post the relevant quote here later tonight though (When I get home). I only hope that it won't take me too long to find the darn quote.
Yes, there is a final chase in the book.
But, everyone involved knows it is not the right person, that the person who eventually gets (killed/captured?) is some innocent whom the government/authorities knows always takes his evening stroll along the same route, at the same time. (Thus making him a target if they ever need one.)
It was one of the "elders" (Forgive me not remembering his name) who tells Montag that the authorities know of them, but leave them alone.
Also, it's worth bringing up here since we have all been ranting about censorship lately.
Offtopic comment: Maybe
My contributions to the SF list are
Of course, you are free to add your own books to the list.
Moderation is NOT censorship, Moderation is other people suggesting that a particular comment is good or bad.
Nobody is making you read at level 1, or 2 or 3. You have made that decision. You have made the decision to read posts at a level where most of the junk is not presented to you, and that you willingly lose some of the gems that just never get moderated up.
And of course, your statement was just a troll to begin with, so I don't know why I am even bothering to post a reply to it.
But the thing to remember here is that the government knew that there were people who were memorizing those books for the day when the government finally collapsed and that knowledge would be needed again.
The governement in the book is the government the people wanted, but at least those in power knew it was wrong, and took steps to protect mankind (Not the citizens, per se, but the future generations) from the idiocies of the present.
And why yes, I own two copies presently, paperback, and an autographed hardcover edition.
And, BTW, I am still waiting for somebody to turn A Sound of Thunder into a full length movie.
Just as a side note, not everyone at Ford, nor at Intel allready has/can afford a PC at home, much less a decent PC. My guess is that we're probably talking about 40 percent of their employees don't have a PC at all in their homes.
If the RIAA really wanted to shut down Napster and the clones, they could do it without resorting to the lawyers.
How?
Easy. All they would have to do is have their IT folks burn some CDs with the Napster Client, and 600 megs of what appear to be real songs by Metallica, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Britney, etc. Now, none of those are really MP3 songs by whichever artist, but are, instead, lectures by the artist about how MP3 Piracy is bad, and against the law. Then, they hand out those CDs at the front lobby of all their office buildings along with instructions on to install Napster, and help protect their jobs by sharing these special songs.
Imagine if there were thousands of RIAA and other music company employees doing this. The pool of MP3s would be so polluted with bogus music that people would stop using Napster because it now took 3-4 times as long to get a song they wanted. (3-4 download tries to actually get the song.)
The same action could take place against Gnutella, FreeNet, etc.
The big deal with Napster is that it is easy to use. It's easy for the recording industry to make it hard to use. They have not done so yet. Therefore they don't want Napster shut down.
Or am I missing something here?
Me? I was born in '61. I remember
It is just amazing to me that kids born after 1975 have absolutely no understanding of what went before them. While I would not wish those things upon my own children, I also think it is just as important that they understand why we did the things we did. Only in that way can they understand what they have now, and why they need to work to protect it.
What happens? /. gets sued, that's what!
What a Naughty boy/girl you are
My question/concern is how in the heck did Napster deal with 300K+ users in a single weekend? From what I've seen, each server maxes out around a couple thousand users.
2000 Users * 40 Servers = 80,000 users simultaneously
Now if we assume everyone of those users had a Metallica MP3 file, then it might be possible to have 300K+ Metallica fans on in a weekend.
Somehow I doubt it though.
Well then, the way to fix it is to get the word into the OED. They seem to want references of the word "Cracker" over the past five years (Probably in a dead tree medium). If you're so ticked off about it, why don't you find dead tree uses of Cracker and send them off to the OED?
And god help you if you bring an unauthorized transmitting device on site with you (Read: Cell phone)
If you work at the labs, they own you. Remember, the Labs are the ones who banned Furbys because they transmit IR signals!