Meanwhile, with hundreds of mobile devices all trying to differentiate themselves, there is still no open source device or tablet to replace an openmoko.
"The complete lack of humanity behind such actions are beyond my imagination and seriously remind me of the atrocities claimed by the Jews in WW2."
Cant disagree... this is how i see it.
Jewish people are historically amongst the most persecuted groups of people known.
In recent times, the Palestinian people should be considered to be amongst the most persecuted groups of people.
To look at this rationally for a second, shouldnt Jewish society, knowing the horrors of such persecution be the most vocal _supporters_ of Palestinians. After all, they should be able to empathize.
Unfortunately, people, particularly groups of them, donâ(TM)t always act rationally. In this case, its more like "the sins of the father are revisited on the son".
They where treated badly, so they think that makes it ok for them to treat other people badly, AFAIK its a classic psychological condition.
Im sure every countries media is biased to favour their own country, in that way they all biased.
But we dont need mass-media to have a conversation for us, we can do it ourselves directly.
If you know or come across a "Chinese Nationalist", i encourage you to discuss such issues with directly, with an open mind. Same with people from other countries/cultures you dont have first hand experience with.
Yea, good points, and there are perhaps counters to those, but im not arguing.
The most interesting thing from my point of view was that when i did raise issue with my Chinese friend, he came back with a reply i hadnt anticipated. (and i consider myself very politically aware)
Another example, he considered China to be a type of democracy. Anyone can join the communist party, anyone in the communist party can vote for the local leader, their local leader can vote for the regional leader etc. Its not very direct, but in theory population can influence leadership.
It think there is still a big difference between the way the west sees China, and the way it is.
An ex work mate of mine was a Chinese nationalist, he expressed his opinions on these matters.
He said china considers the Tibetan leaders to be exploiting its people, the tibetan people didnt have much, and they should have to give it to their leaders. China was trying to 'liberate' the people of tibet. Its the same excuse the US used to to invade iraq.
Falung-Gong is considered to be a font for the pro-democracy movement. Remember how the US persecuted communists and anyone associated with them, well, same thing.
Of course two wrongs dont make a right, and these reasons probably justify such actions in the eyes of most westerners, but its wise to at least consider the opinion of the other side rather than just listen to the biased media of one side.
"Out here in the "flyover" states*, we're not all running scared of our shadows, and don't see the terrorist boogyman behind every door, regardless of how much congress, the whitehouse, DHS, TSA, or anyone else wants us to."
"What a lot of companies are having problems with is establishing a compliance program..."
Bruce, do you think companies made a genuine effort to establish a compliance program early, or is it more a case of them wanting to save money and try and get away with it, or at least delay the costs until a later stage ?
Im following up on a violation right now for a company right now, 6 months ago i queried them about "scripts used to control compilation and installation" i only recently got a response where they state it was an oversight. (pressuring the distributor seems to be the best way to get manufacturers to respond)
My experience is companies will ignore open source licenses (treat it as public domain) until its a threat. I struggle to think of any hardware companies (box makers) that have always dont the right thing.
What hardware companies would you consider open source friendly ?
Academics usually have high expectations on their students, and they should, after all their students are dedicating years of their life to an area of study.
Wikipedia has to be able to get a message across to someone who only wants to dedicate 5 minutes to the topic.
Perhaps what is needed is a more gradual depth of explanation, so people can get a quick and dirty answer, but still have the ability to dig deeper.
The media industry as it exists today is an _utter_ failure.
- They refuse to evelove.
- Its against their nature to compete
- They treat customers as enemies
- They discriminate over who it sells to.
- They limits the products it offers for sale.
- They have been found planting Trojans in their product (sony).
- They disrespect other people property rights.
- They pay their suppliers (Artists) a pittance.
- They arent willing to negotiate wit htheir customers.
- They sue tens of thousands of potential customers at the blink of a hat and with minimal evidence.
So cry me a river about this "business model" you think is so worthy of legal protection
"No, I am sure that Wikileaks is concerned for nobody's safety. They have proved that many times over."
Wikileaks say they are releasing these leaks because they are in the publics best interests (not their own), it follows that that such people would also care about other peoples safety.
Facts arent subject to copyright "Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed."
Function call expressions probably arent copyrightable as they cant be expressed uniquely and still work.
But if there is leeway to expressed them, or groups of them unique then they might b subject to copyright.
example int foo(int bar); int foo(int a_rigid_piece_of_metal_or_wood);
Both are compatible (c just needs the type not the name) but maybe they are considered differently expressed, and therefore each is separately copyright-able.
What if there are 1000 functions, both ordered randomly, are the files different unique expressions.
Of course its easy to get around such problems by reducing them to facts, e.g. int foo(int);
In fifty thousand years (or whatever) when the nuclear waste is no longer dangerous, then a reasonable comparison could be made between nuclear accidents and other types of deaths.
Until nuclear industry is capable of planning thousands of years into the future, it cannot make rational statements about the safety of the industry.
On top of that, how can an industry plan ahead that far, when it has trouble seeing past its next quarterly results report.
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Meanwhile, with hundreds of mobile devices all trying to differentiate themselves, there is still no open source device or tablet to replace an openmoko.
The wheel is obvious now... The first wheel? Not so much.
And inventing it without the incentives and legal rights that patents systems provide.
Why would one even bother inventing the wheel if he couldnt even commercial it or license the rights to others ! /saracsm
If intellectual property rights are so important, how did we survive without them.
"The complete lack of humanity behind such actions are beyond my imagination and seriously remind me of the atrocities claimed by the Jews in WW2."
Cant disagree... this is how i see it.
Jewish people are historically amongst the most persecuted groups of people known.
In recent times, the Palestinian people should be considered to be amongst the most persecuted groups of people.
To look at this rationally for a second, shouldnt Jewish society, knowing the horrors of such persecution be the most vocal _supporters_ of Palestinians. After all, they should be able to empathize.
Unfortunately, people, particularly groups of them, donâ(TM)t always act rationally. In this case, its more like "the sins of the father are revisited on the son".
They where treated badly, so they think that makes it ok for them to treat other people badly, AFAIK its a classic psychological condition.
The state of Israel is the bastard son of NAZI's.
Im sure every countries media is biased to favour their own country, in that way they all biased.
But we dont need mass-media to have a conversation for us, we can do it ourselves directly.
If you know or come across a "Chinese Nationalist", i encourage you to discuss such issues with directly, with an open mind. Same with people from other countries/cultures you dont have first hand experience with.
If all that years drowning victims died in just a couple of hours, would swimming pools be more dangerous ?
Yea, good points, and there are perhaps counters to those, but im not arguing.
The most interesting thing from my point of view was that when i did raise issue with my Chinese friend, he came back with a reply i hadnt anticipated. (and i consider myself very politically aware)
Another example, he considered China to be a type of democracy. Anyone can join the communist party, anyone in the communist party can vote for the local leader, their local leader can vote for the regional leader etc. Its not very direct, but in theory population can influence leadership.
It think there is still a big difference between the way the west sees China, and the way it is.
woops, meant to say
"and these reasons probably DONT justify such actions in the eyes of most westerners"
An ex work mate of mine was a Chinese nationalist, he expressed his opinions on these matters.
He said china considers the Tibetan leaders to be exploiting its people, the tibetan people didnt have much, and they should have to give it to their leaders. China was trying to 'liberate' the people of tibet. Its the same excuse the US used to to invade iraq.
Falung-Gong is considered to be a font for the pro-democracy movement. Remember how the US persecuted communists and anyone associated with them, well, same thing.
Of course two wrongs dont make a right, and these reasons probably justify such actions in the eyes of most westerners, but its wise to at least consider the opinion of the other side rather than just listen to the biased media of one side.
How can you proove the photo of the easter bunny below isnt real ?
http://www.pantherkut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/happy-easter-bunny.jpg
Translation: we want to screw each customer for as much as posible, this requires and individual, rather than collective approach to pricing.
I did say _believe_
Do an image search for the "easter bunny", what does it prove ?
So how about you post some photos of yourself, because your words mean nothing if we cant see your face /sarcasm
Maybe they just wernt interested in stories 99% of the population are clueless about. How many legal bloggers _are_ shown on American News Media ?
I think skepticism is generally a good thing, but if you question everything you have nothing left to believe in, except 'cogito ergo sum'.
If people in the community have said they have met her, then that should be good enough unless there is reason to question their word.
Your saying PJ isnt real because you havent seen her on TV ?
Seriously ?
"Out here in the "flyover" states*, we're not all running scared of our shadows, and don't see the terrorist boogyman behind every door, regardless of how much congress, the whitehouse, DHS, TSA, or anyone else wants us to."
You obviously arent patriots then ! /sarcasm
Yea, for example, what would you do during an extended power outage, with no batteries, solar, or handcrank ?
That silly microphone/speaker idea wouldnt be any use then !
I heard of a new invention too, a movable two way sound resistance wall, with optional visual transparency.
They call them windows.
Its not any one party, its individual State Attorney.
Each state Attorney seems to have a personal agenda about the issue, and it doesn't take into consideration the views of the party or the state.
Federal government wont/cant do it without all states agreeing.
State governments need to stand up to their AG and tell them their position is not a license to dictate morality.
"What a lot of companies are having problems with is establishing a compliance program ..."
Bruce, do you think companies made a genuine effort to establish a compliance program early, or is it more a case of them wanting to save money and try and get away with it, or at least delay the costs until a later stage ?
Im following up on a violation right now for a company right now, 6 months ago i queried them about "scripts used to control compilation and installation" i only recently got a response where they state it was an oversight. (pressuring the distributor seems to be the best way to get manufacturers to respond)
My experience is companies will ignore open source licenses (treat it as public domain) until its a threat. I struggle to think of any hardware companies (box makers) that have always dont the right thing.
What hardware companies would you consider open source friendly ?
Academics usually have high expectations on their students, and they should, after all their students are dedicating years of their life to an area of study.
Wikipedia has to be able to get a message across to someone who only wants to dedicate 5 minutes to the topic.
Perhaps what is needed is a more gradual depth of explanation, so people can get a quick and dirty answer, but still have the ability to dig deeper.
The media industry as it exists today is an _utter_ failure.
- They refuse to evelove.
- Its against their nature to compete
- They treat customers as enemies
- They discriminate over who it sells to.
- They limits the products it offers for sale.
- They have been found planting Trojans in their product (sony).
- They disrespect other people property rights.
- They pay their suppliers (Artists) a pittance.
- They arent willing to negotiate wit htheir customers.
- They sue tens of thousands of potential customers at the blink of a hat and with minimal evidence.
So cry me a river about this "business model" you think is so worthy of legal protection
"They say that, but they keep on ignoring the lives they're putting at risk, when they know they can do their job without putting lives at risk."
Hmm, but didnt the pentagon invtigate and say they couldnt _prove_ wikileaks put lives at risk, or are you talking about something else they leaked ?
"No, I am sure that Wikileaks is concerned for nobody's safety.
They have proved that many times over."
Wikileaks say they are releasing these leaks because they are in the publics best interests (not their own), it follows that that such people would also care about other peoples safety.
Why do you say otherwise ?
Facts arent subject to copyright
"Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed."
Ref - http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#what_protect
Function call expressions probably arent copyrightable as they cant be expressed uniquely and still work.
But if there is leeway to expressed them, or groups of them unique then they might b subject to copyright.
example
int foo(int bar);
int foo(int a_rigid_piece_of_metal_or_wood);
Both are compatible (c just needs the type not the name) but maybe they are considered differently expressed, and therefore each is separately copyright-able.
What if there are 1000 functions, both ordered randomly, are the files different unique expressions.
Of course its easy to get around such problems by reducing them to facts, e.g. int foo(int);
You say nuclear safety problem is a political problem, and not a technical one.
Even if your right, its still a problem, its still unsafe.
In fifty thousand years (or whatever) when the nuclear waste is no longer dangerous, then a reasonable comparison could be made between nuclear accidents and other types of deaths.
Until nuclear industry is capable of planning thousands of years into the future, it cannot make rational statements about the safety of the industry.
On top of that, how can an industry plan ahead that far, when it has trouble seeing past its next quarterly results report.
Nuclear power just isnt suited to our society