If philosophy makes everything better then where are the philosopher kings [wikipedia.org] that Plato spoke of and if they are not here yet then how have things gotten any better since the time of Plato?
Has the thing that makes us human has gotten any better, can it ?
A leader cant make his followers "better", he can show them a path of self improvement.
But if you are just being superficial, then yes. Im sure you have lots of stuff, and having lots of stuff makes you better than people in Plato's time....
The year of the linux desktop will never come until "making everything work" for 80% of the population requires precisely zero command line interactions,
Free software empowers its users, therefore "making everything work" will involve making things work that dont work in a closed world, it will always be more complex, thats why its good.
There will always be things users need to learn when they start using a new application.
Its really ignorant to discourage or dismiss the command line, its not the command line thats the problem, its the interaction.
If a user doesnt know what they should be doing then a GUI is just as confusing as a CLI.
We shouldnt be discourage the command line, we should be encouraging people to learn how to use it, learn how to learn about it, man, info etc.
It would be tragic if linux wins the desktop be becoming windows, giving up 40 years of evolutions.
"OSS doesn't exist to make the world a better place."
Things dont exist for their own self-specific purpose, but still...
The existance of Free Software (and OSS) does give people more control over themselves, so its easy to argue that it does make the world a little bit better.
So i wonder what you think OSS does exist for, if you dont think it exists for any reason, why mention it doesnt exist for one specific reason ?
(or maybe im not supposed to think about what you said)
There are two types of copyrights, original works and collective works.
An original work might be a song, a collective works might be an album containing "Hits from the 90's".
The publisher of this "Hits of the 90's" needs permission to use the original works from the songs copyright holders, but the publisher gets a collective copyright on the composition/arrangement of the songs.
As facts arent copyrightable, anyone can produce a compilation of them.
Another example, say i want to produce a poster with multiplication tables for school kids to learn (or not), maybe im really crap and i dont even know 7x10, i believe its quite legitimate for me to look at someone elses multiplication tables poster and write the answer on mine.
Information/ideas can be copied (if not patented), you cant copy the way the idea is expressed, so in the multiplication table example i would just have to use a different font/color/placement/whatever.
Take this example to say a text file of multiplication tables and there is very little work in making/presenting the facts, so you probably wouldn't get a collective copyright.
"The root cause is not the labels -- chances are if you were running a label you would make the same demands, since the law permits it"
The law doesnt and will never define morality, or ethics. Just because they are allowed to get away with it doesnt make it acceptable.
CEO's dont get a fuckwit chip inserted into them when they accept the job, they are born that way.
I really dont see any excuse for them, or why anyone else would think its not their fault, their industry is dying, they are trying to take as much as they can before they go.
What next slashdot, are we going to have stories saying that Darl McBride was really just misunderstood ?
I wish people would stop talking about a countries values and start talking about a countries leaders values.
Groups of people arent that different, the larger the group, the smaller the difference, its indivuals (leaders) that represent the biggest difference.
"A lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between [makes quotation sign] two truths" - Deep Throad (X-Files)
Your a premeditated lier or a fool
"because we live in this fishbowl, this universe, we cannot independently verify this by experiment right now."
And then you state
"He has given us the solution to this in writing. It is called the Bible..."
Its like you've taken some rational philosophical response and plastered your religious bile in the middle of it.
From your own statements you know full well that it cant be verified as the bible, that it does as you say, come down to belief.
Even if you believe there is something outside the fishbowl, and that it wants to communicate, how do you know its in the bible and not another religious book, eg the Qur'an, The Torah, The Vedas, The Book of Mormon, The Guru Granth Sahib, The Avesta, The Zhuan Falun, The Origin of Species, The scientologies book... Even the Pythagorians (the triangle dudes) had their holy teachings. Every lunatic has a book.
"security practices need to improve because open source adoption by enterprises and governments is growing"
So these fortify people think security has to improve not because of the adverse effects it can have on users at large, but specifically because of the adverse effects on enterprise and government.
Oh yea, thats the reason i donated my time the open source community, to help enterprise and government. After all, they are all about helping the people. I never did it to try help the little bloke./sarcasm
EVE is well very designed (its a crafter/traders wet dream) but the programmers are nubs, lots of little bugs get through. And there is the stackless python server that they love so much, crap server performance, server written using an interpreted language, and they wonder why they need the massive supercomputer that they have...
WoW has good programmers, you dont see the type of bugs you do in eve, but the WoW designers are very reactionary, eg nerf/buf classes based on their popularity in the previous 3 months and the amount of crying on the forums.
Is it too much to ask for a well designed and implemented game ?
By the time any copyright expires on any software it is highly unlikely that any hardware will exist that will run it.
Life of the author + 70 years, im a C fanboi, its been around for 30 years (one of the oldest languages currently used), but even i would be pessimistic of it lasting another 100 or so.
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"that means if you don't give the source code to all the people using the app you are infringing the license"
WHAT !!!
The GPL requires me to do something in order to benefit from the software... teh fascists !
But seriously, i think you will find you only have to offer the source code to people using the app, you dont have to force it on them.
All you need to do is put a notice about how to obtain the source code on the internet amongst all the other legal fine print the user has to agree to when signing up.
Its not like your forced to build a USB slot into the ATM.
"But it is immoral for me to force them to give it away."
You are putting the interests of individuals before the interests of society at large, the GPL tries to maximise freedom for all users, not specific individual users.
You may well consider it immoral to force people to give away their code, i consider it unethical to authorize other people to use your code to be used to exploit society.
Comparing copyleft and non-copyleft licences is like comparing Apples and Oranges.
Good answer, i just ran into maslow's hierarchy of needs a few months ago, was quite interesting, not sure i agree with it all, but thats another story.
Im sure you understand where the question was coming from, if someone does need an escape from the real life then computer games are pretty harmless compared to say drugs (legal and illegal).
Or if someone uses their experience as an example of it being easy to quit WoW, and forgets to mention that (s)he is now playing AoC instead, or is going on a nightly drinking binges, then its a bit misleading.
>> So WoW not having an "ending" is hardly an issue -- people can get addicted to anything that offers escapism, and the fact that this mother is addicted to WoW is not a cause to point fingers at WoW.
> People can, and do, quit MMOs. I quit WoW not long ago. No big reason, no epic struggle, I was just kinda bored of it.
The question is, did you quit WoW because you found a more interesting way to escape, or did you no longer need an escape ?
A monopoly in violence, thus, is just the very first step required in solving human problems, as it solves our very first problem.
Hmm, interesting, but it only considers solutions external to the human.
Humans are the cause of human problems, so the first step required in solving human problems is for humans to want to stop causing problems. Forcing people act in a particular way is probably not a long term solution to the cause of the problem, which is usually greed, lack of compassion, insecurity etc.
If you try a system idiot proof, god will create a better idiot. i.e. People will find a way around systems (government).
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That's the most retarded fucking thing in the world. If you don't like Mono, just don't fucking use it.
He criticized a piece of software, your carrying on like he insulted your god(s), Get a grip...
If philosophy makes everything better then where are the philosopher kings [wikipedia.org] that Plato spoke of and if they are not here yet then how have things gotten any better since the time of Plato?
Has the thing that makes us human has gotten any better, can it ?
A leader cant make his followers "better", he can show them a path of self improvement.
But if you are just being superficial, then yes. Im sure you have lots of stuff, and having lots of stuff makes you better than people in Plato's time....
he's referring to the concept of disruptive technology as written about in The Innovator's Dilemma by Christensen
Hmm, i thought disruptive technology was things the web 2.0 video commercials and spam. /sarcasm
The year of the linux desktop will never come until "making everything work" for 80% of the population requires precisely zero command line interactions,
Free software empowers its users, therefore "making everything work" will involve making things work that dont work in a closed world, it will always be more complex, thats why its good.
There will always be things users need to learn when they start using a new application.
Its really ignorant to discourage or dismiss the command line, its not the command line thats the problem, its the interaction.
If a user doesnt know what they should be doing then a GUI is just as confusing as a CLI.
We shouldnt be discourage the command line, we should be encouraging people to learn how to use it, learn how to learn about it, man, info etc.
It would be tragic if linux wins the desktop be becoming windows, giving up 40 years of evolutions.
"I knew that the filtering was something they were going to do, but if I had of know it was going to be this bad, I would of changed my vote."
And support the liberal party's censorship regime ?
Nether major parties have ever favored freedom over security.
"The Australians wanted to ban..."
Australia has a population of 20 million, we have a diverse background, we are not all the same.
Perhaps you could have been more specific and stated that a minority of Australian federal politicians wanted to ban such a thing.
"Warhammer in my opinion has redefined how to launch a MMO"
Warhammer installer for everyone in oceania was broken and once installed there was no way to start the game, the .exe didnt work.
Lots of complaints about AoC bugs, but it least it could be started without having to download files from third party sites.
I suspect warhammer is the worst launch of any notable MMO, but despite its disastrous first few days its a great game that might even challenge WoW.
"OSS doesn't exist to make the world a better place."
Things dont exist for their own self-specific purpose, but still...
The existance of Free Software (and OSS) does give people more control over themselves, so its easy to argue that it does make the world a little bit better.
So i wonder what you think OSS does exist for, if you dont think it exists for any reason, why mention it doesnt exist for one specific reason ?
(or maybe im not supposed to think about what you said)
There are two types of copyrights, original works and collective works.
An original work might be a song, a collective works might be an album containing "Hits from the 90's".
The publisher of this "Hits of the 90's" needs permission to use the original works from the songs copyright holders, but the publisher gets a collective copyright on the composition/arrangement of the songs.
As facts arent copyrightable, anyone can produce a compilation of them.
Another example, say i want to produce a poster with multiplication tables for school kids to learn (or not), maybe im really crap and i dont even know 7x10, i believe its quite legitimate for me to look at someone elses multiplication tables poster and write the answer on mine.
Information/ideas can be copied (if not patented), you cant copy the way the idea is expressed, so in the multiplication table example i would just have to use a different font/color/placement/whatever.
Take this example to say a text file of multiplication tables and there is very little work in making/presenting the facts, so you probably wouldn't get a collective copyright.
"The root cause is not the labels -- chances are if you were running a label you would make the same demands, since the law permits it"
The law doesnt and will never define morality, or ethics. Just because they are allowed to get away with it doesnt make it acceptable.
CEO's dont get a fuckwit chip inserted into them when they accept the job, they are born that way.
I really dont see any excuse for them, or why anyone else would think its not their fault, their industry is dying, they are trying to take as much as they can before they go.
What next slashdot, are we going to have stories saying that Darl McBride was really just misunderstood ?
I wish people would stop talking about a countries values and start talking about a countries leaders values.
Groups of people arent that different, the larger the group, the smaller the difference, its indivuals (leaders) that represent the biggest difference.
"A lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between [makes quotation sign] two truths" - Deep Throad (X-Files)
Your a premeditated lier or a fool
"because we live in this fishbowl, this universe, we cannot independently verify this by experiment right now."
And then you state
"He has given us the solution to this in writing. It is called the Bible..."
Its like you've taken some rational philosophical response and plastered your religious bile in the middle of it.
From your own statements you know full well that it cant be verified as the bible, that it does as you say, come down to belief.
Even if you believe there is something outside the fishbowl, and that it wants to communicate, how do you know its in the bible and not another religious book, eg the Qur'an, The Torah, The Vedas, The Book of Mormon, The Guru Granth Sahib, The Avesta, The Zhuan Falun, The Origin of Species, The scientologies book... Even the Pythagorians (the triangle dudes) had their holy teachings. Every lunatic has a book.
b.t.w fish can see outside the fishbowl.
| Who cares?
You. If you didnt why did you comment ?
"security practices need to improve because open source adoption by enterprises and governments is growing"
So these fortify people think security has to improve not because of the adverse effects it can have on users at large, but specifically because of the adverse effects on enterprise and government.
Oh yea, thats the reason i donated my time the open source community, to help enterprise and government. After all, they are all about helping the people. I never did it to try help the little bloke. /sarcasm
EVE and WoW are opposites.
EVE is well very designed (its a crafter/traders wet dream) but the programmers are nubs, lots of little bugs get through. And there is the stackless python server that they love so much, crap server performance, server written using an interpreted language, and they wonder why they need the massive supercomputer that they have...
WoW has good programmers, you dont see the type of bugs you do in eve, but the WoW designers are very reactionary, eg nerf/buf classes based on their popularity in the previous 3 months and the amount of crying on the forums.
Is it too much to ask for a well designed and implemented game ?
By the time any copyright expires on any software it is highly unlikely that any hardware will exist that will run it.
Life of the author + 70 years, im a C fanboi, its been around for 30 years (one of the oldest languages currently used), but even i would be pessimistic of it lasting another 100 or so.
"that means if you don't give the source code to all the people using the app you are infringing the license"
WHAT !!!
The GPL requires me to do something in order to benefit from the software... teh fascists !
But seriously, i think you will find you only have to offer the source code to people using the app, you dont have to force it on them.
All you need to do is put a notice about how to obtain the source code on the internet amongst all the other legal fine print the user has to agree to when signing up.
Its not like your forced to build a USB slot into the ATM.
"But it is immoral for me to force them to give it away."
You are putting the interests of individuals before the interests of society at large, the GPL tries to maximise freedom for all users, not specific individual users.
You may well consider it immoral to force people to give away their code, i consider it unethical to authorize other people to use your code to be used to exploit society.
Comparing copyleft and non-copyleft licences is like comparing Apples and Oranges.
Good answer, i just ran into maslow's hierarchy of needs a few months ago, was quite interesting, not sure i agree with it all, but thats another story.
Im sure you understand where the question was coming from, if someone does need an escape from the real life then computer games are pretty harmless compared to say drugs (legal and illegal).
Or if someone uses their experience as an example of it being easy to quit WoW, and forgets to mention that (s)he is now playing AoC instead, or is going on a nightly drinking binges, then its a bit misleading.
(something about walking in other peoples shoes)
"I could say the same thing about sunny beaches, and yet not everyone goes giving up their lives to become beach bums."
Skin cancer.
>> So WoW not having an "ending" is hardly an issue -- people can get addicted to anything that offers escapism, and the fact that this mother is addicted to WoW is not a cause to point fingers at WoW.
> People can, and do, quit MMOs. I quit WoW not long ago. No big reason, no epic struggle, I was just kinda bored of it.
The question is, did you quit WoW because you found a more interesting way to escape, or did you no longer need an escape ?
A monopoly in violence, thus, is just the very first step required in solving human problems, as it solves our very first problem.
Hmm, interesting, but it only considers solutions external to the human.
Humans are the cause of human problems, so the first step required in solving human problems is for humans to want to stop causing problems. Forcing people act in a particular way is probably not a long term solution to the cause of the problem, which is usually greed, lack of compassion, insecurity etc.
If you try a system idiot proof, god will create a better idiot. i.e. People will find a way around systems (government).
Huh? A corporation talking about emotion?
It's about money...
You dont think corporates get emotional about money ?
You said more and more casual players are subscribing to WoW, i offered an opinion that they are churning through players.
What is to say that the increase in subscribers arent hard core...
You seemed to be implying that blizzard (owned by vivendi of MPAA fame) can do no wrong.