These articles regarding Apple's labour practices have been fairly regular for years, now. It's not that many people did not know about it; it's that many people choose not to care about it.
Why is Apple being singled out, anyway?
Because Apple, with its record profits and profit margin, clearly benefits financially the most from the current system. They could slash their profits in half, still lead the industry, AND improve working conditions.
But they would rather keep profits through the roof - with legions of iFans cheering them the whole way - and simply pay lip-service to "good worker conditions", when they in fact have the resources to change it.
It's awfully hard to ignore Apple with $10+ billion in profit, and castigate Motorola as "just as bad" when they lost money... Who do you think could stand to give back a few billion dollars for improvement in worker conditions?
Yeah he does his job and he has 4 years more experience doing it than these guys do. No sexual scandals. No kick-backs to friends he has in big business.
Sure, no kickbacks to heavy donors or special favors to his constituency, not President Obama!
The Federal Government is bringing in the same money it did in 1998 and 1999 - even adjusting for inflation
Considering the number of tax breaks we've had over the past 10 years, this quote just set off my ignorance and/or lie detector.
Yep. Ignorance. See those sharp downward spikes there first in 2001ish and then again around 2008?
--Jeremy
Sorry, not ignorance on my part - apparently you mistook my statement of dollars adjusted for inflation for percent of GDP - which is what your reference shows. Now if you look at page 31 of the White House's budget summary, you'll see constant dollars used for revenues. About $2 trillion in 1998, and we're at about $1.92 trillion in 2010. About the same revenue - per the President's own budget report.
The only ignorance on display here is your own inability to comprehend basic English - or your zealotry to uphold some ideological ideal that is apparently wrong.
Much of those "evil rich" who "don't pay their fair share" already pay 40-50% in taxes. How much more should they pay? How much more should you pay? Another 15, 20%? If so - why not just use 20% of your own income to buy health insurance for yourself and another person?
The Federal Government is bringing in the same money it did in 1998 and 1999 - even adjusting for inflation. Spending, however, is way up. That's the problem - the Federal Government is doing a LOT more than it was, just 12 years ago... And with an obstructionist Senate refusing to pass or even address a budget (for over 1000 days now), there's no way to zero out programs that should be killed.
It's not the "tax cuts" - it's the spending. Adjusted for inflation, the Federal Government is bringing in the same dollars it did back in the late 90s (when we had a budget surplus). Spending, however, is up 60% - and that's where the deficit comes from. We're not under-taxing, we're over-spending.
You're lying about the $1.20/hour. 1500 RMB is $240/month. That's $8/day, for far more than 8 hours of work per day. Please stop lying.
No lie, just truth - as opposed to your ignorance. Please read this good summary, since I'm pretty sure you cannot read the original Mandarin.
The law is 40 hours per week; overtime (which is readily available all the time) is to be paid at a minimum of 150% of base hourly rate.
There are 4.333 weeks per month, on average - that yields 173 hours per month. At a rate of 1500 RMB per month (minimum wage), that is 8.67 RMB per hour. At the current exchange rate of 6.31 RMB per USD, that is actually $1.37 per hour.
Disclosure: I've lived the majority of my life in China, for the last 7 years. Self-employed engineer/consultant for US, EU, and Chinese companies, and work in the consumer electronics industry (hardware design and manufacturing side of things).
The actions of tens of millions of Chinese workers - who moved from those farms to the factories to work for 5, 6, or 7 years - says the GP is correct.
Just a quick one as I'm drunk and tired; but our most accurate climate models so far (as quantified by starting them in approx 1870, running them to the present, and comparing results with reality) show that in the absence of anthropogenic forcing (i.e. CO2, aerosol and methane input by humans), we should have in fact experienced cooling over the last decade or so. The fact that we have experienced warming is then even worse than it initially appears.
Actually, it appears we haven't been warming and are, in fact, starting to head into that cooling phase. At least that's what the data appears to say.
I used to live in Seattle - I remember the June days where the sun would rise at 5 AM and set around 10 PM. And during the summer, the days in Canada are even longer. Long days of sun make up for shorter growing seasons, quite well. Consider the length of the wheat season in Alberta versus that in Oklahoma... Alberta and SK and other central provinces certainly have big wheat output...
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These articles regarding Apple's labour practices have been fairly regular for years, now. It's not that many people did not know about it; it's that many people choose not to care about it.
Why is Apple being singled out, anyway?
Because Apple, with its record profits and profit margin, clearly benefits financially the most from the current system. They could slash their profits in half, still lead the industry, AND improve working conditions.
But they would rather keep profits through the roof - with legions of iFans cheering them the whole way - and simply pay lip-service to "good worker conditions", when they in fact have the resources to change it.
It's awfully hard to ignore Apple with $10+ billion in profit, and castigate Motorola as "just as bad" when they lost money... Who do you think could stand to give back a few billion dollars for improvement in worker conditions?
That is for the zen part of your guru meditation to find out...
Because those programmers are currently under contract to the IPCC...
Who signed FY2009? Thank you.
Yeah he does his job and he has 4 years more experience doing it than these guys do. No sexual scandals. No kick-backs to friends he has in big business.
Sure, no kickbacks to heavy donors or special favors to his constituency, not President Obama!
What obligations to SS? There are no legal rights for anyone to get SS benefits. It's largesse at the behest and whim of the Government only.
FY2009? Check who wrote it, when it was passed in Congress, and which President signed it. You'll find there wasn't a (R) around it...
The first "trillion dollar deficit" was under President Obama.
That's OK, you were just making sure your comment was relevant for 2013...
Now now, don't exaggerate. It was a SINGLE Siberian tree that was used as a global proxy for climate changes.
Hmmm... I can tell my Android phone to only download big updates when on a WIFI connection... Seems logical to me.
The Federal Government is bringing in the same money it did in 1998 and 1999 - even adjusting for inflation
Considering the number of tax breaks we've had over the past 10 years, this quote just set off my ignorance and/or lie detector.
Yep. Ignorance. See those sharp downward spikes there first in 2001ish and then again around 2008?
--Jeremy
Sorry, not ignorance on my part - apparently you mistook my statement of dollars adjusted for inflation for percent of GDP - which is what your reference shows. Now if you look at page 31 of the White House's budget summary, you'll see constant dollars used for revenues. About $2 trillion in 1998, and we're at about $1.92 trillion in 2010. About the same revenue - per the President's own budget report.
The only ignorance on display here is your own inability to comprehend basic English - or your zealotry to uphold some ideological ideal that is apparently wrong.
Much of those "evil rich" who "don't pay their fair share" already pay 40-50% in taxes. How much more should they pay? How much more should you pay? Another 15, 20%? If so - why not just use 20% of your own income to buy health insurance for yourself and another person?
The Federal Government is bringing in the same money it did in 1998 and 1999 - even adjusting for inflation. Spending, however, is way up. That's the problem - the Federal Government is doing a LOT more than it was, just 12 years ago... And with an obstructionist Senate refusing to pass or even address a budget (for over 1000 days now), there's no way to zero out programs that should be killed.
Our current President wasn't a one-term senator when he was nominalted - he was a 40% term senator.
Interesting list - of course, George H.W. Bush was a 2 term vice president...
It's not the "tax cuts" - it's the spending. Adjusted for inflation, the Federal Government is bringing in the same dollars it did back in the late 90s (when we had a budget surplus). Spending, however, is up 60% - and that's where the deficit comes from. We're not under-taxing, we're over-spending.
Until the car gets really small - like an Italian or German sports car. Then it's compensating again.
You're lying about the $1.20/hour. 1500 RMB is $240/month. That's $8/day, for far more than 8 hours of work per day. Please stop lying.
No lie, just truth - as opposed to your ignorance. Please read this good summary, since I'm pretty sure you cannot read the original Mandarin.
The law is 40 hours per week; overtime (which is readily available all the time) is to be paid at a minimum of 150% of base hourly rate.
There are 4.333 weeks per month, on average - that yields 173 hours per month. At a rate of 1500 RMB per month (minimum wage), that is 8.67 RMB per hour. At the current exchange rate of 6.31 RMB per USD, that is actually $1.37 per hour.
Disclosure: I've lived the majority of my life in China, for the last 7 years. Self-employed engineer/consultant for US, EU, and Chinese companies, and work in the consumer electronics industry (hardware design and manufacturing side of things).
I look forward to your apology.
THE Sun...
Correct - the object in the sky with less mass than Larry's ego.
There were 6 of us in my dorm room back in college...
The actions of tens of millions of Chinese workers - who moved from those farms to the factories to work for 5, 6, or 7 years - says the GP is correct.
Minimum wage in Shenzhen is 1500 RMB per month, or about $1.20 per hour. In terms of purchase power, it's about the same as $9/hour in the US.
Just a quick one as I'm drunk and tired; but our most accurate climate models so far (as quantified by starting them in approx 1870, running them to the present, and comparing results with reality) show that in the absence of anthropogenic forcing (i.e. CO2, aerosol and methane input by humans), we should have in fact experienced cooling over the last decade or so. The fact that we have experienced warming is then even worse than it initially appears.
Actually, it appears we haven't been warming and are, in fact, starting to head into that cooling phase. At least that's what the data appears to say.
I used to live in Seattle - I remember the June days where the sun would rise at 5 AM and set around 10 PM. And during the summer, the days in Canada are even longer. Long days of sun make up for shorter growing seasons, quite well. Consider the length of the wheat season in Alberta versus that in Oklahoma... Alberta and SK and other central provinces certainly have big wheat output...