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Siri Competitor Evi Arrives, But Already Overloaded
mikejuk writes "Evi, a new rival to Siri, Apple's voice-driven personal assistant, has made its debut on both the iPhone and Android. And people are so keen to that Evi's servers are overloaded — so be prepared for a wait for answers." The app costs 99 cents for iOS users, but it's free on Android.
Was there first.
Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
Not only has this been out for approaching a week, but it's also far from a competitor. It uses the standard voice services to transcribe what you say, then 'helpfully' google it for you or open a webpage. It most certainly can't do what Siri does, even when it is (rarely) working. You can ask Siri where to get a sandwich. Asking Evi just results in the homepage for UrbanSpoon.com launching. Not even a search for what you want. When's that Majel thing coming?
This is the real reason Siri's available only for 4S users. Apple added 37 million new iPhone customers last quarter, with the vast majority of those buying 4S's. It's actually pretty amazing they've been able to keep up with the computational and server requirements of all those Siri users with hardly any major hiccups. I've heard of maybe 2 significant Siri outages, and those lasted for very short periods of time. People wanting Apple to extend Siri to all 200 million+ iOS users are being unrealistic. There's no way to handle that kind of load all at once.
Putting all of Siri's capabilities that Evi can't match aside, we still got something that isn't built into the OS like Siri is. I don't see a reason to use this versus Siri unless you are on Android or an older iPhone.
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I had told my friend about this after reading an article about it. He managed to grab it on his EVO 3D after I told him that Evi's server's seem to be melting, but he said it worked really really well. He recently sent me an email saying that the server's are not melted, but burnt to a crisp. He is no longer getting data from Evi. He knows it's in beta still, but I don't think anyone expected this kind of response. Once they shore up their servers, this app promises to very extremely interesting.
I'm thinking "Gay Deceiver" would be quite sultry and appealing.
Hilarity!
As many are finding out .... Evi is nothing but a bad copycat FAKING functionality.
Has anybody actually manage to get a real answer from the Evi?
we have Macbot.
Macbot is like Siri, but retarded, drunk, and insane.
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Why would you give it away on the platform with no competition but charge on the platform with a free alternative? That seems precisely backwards.
And since Siri and friends all need to go to "the cloud" to get the horsepower for translating whatever you ask... what are the privacy and recording implications of that?
I'd imagine that they would need to keep some form of records for tuning, so how much do they keep, for how long, and under what assurances of privacy?
Just grabbed it from Android market. Tried 3 searches:
1. "Petrol near me" - success - found a petrol station near by, correctly.
2. "Weather today" - failure - said weather coming soon, in the meantime, try accuWeather.
3. "Who is the Prime Minister of Australia" - success - Julia Gillard.
The speech to text was flawless, even on the 3rd one.
Still a gimmick I can't see any real use for. I can Google Voice search on my phone already and I never use it. Maybe there's something else you can do with these things I haven't thought of but for me it seems like Siri it pointless and Evi more so.
I'd like to point out that Vlingo has been out much longer than Siri and is a pretty good alternative on the Android platform (its not as good on the Apple platform). Vlingo is free. I am not sure why people never mention it in these discussions.
Uh, did anyone else read TFA's title as "Evil Overlord"?
...or overlooked?
Siri is like the Beatles, and Evi is like a Monkees cover band.
So the service is collapsing under the weight of the attention? At the end of the day, a serious Siri competitor can only come from a huge, very well-financed company because Apple sunk a ridiculous amount of money into a data center to support Siri. And they still have tens of billions of dollars in cash lying around. True Knowledge, the company that introduced Evi, has had about $5.2 million in announced financing over the last four years. This is like calling that guy selling strawberries on the street corner "Safeway's competition." He may have good strawberries, but he's not going to make a dent in Safeway's business. He simply couldn't handle that kind of volume. I know we've seen plenty of David and Goliath technology matchups that have been upended, but this technology is only made possible and sustainable by a huge investment. By the time that ceases to be true (when you can run Siri on your phone without reliance on the cloud) Apple will be even further ahead of the field.
I really don't understand why folks are making a big stink about Siri and this other whoozitwhatsits. I imagine IBM hasn't made a smartphone app for Watson because it would need a huge computer/serverfarm/planet to run it for millions of users yet.
Watson is the real deal. Siri, to me, seems like a search engine and nothing more. It's not answering questions...it's just giving normal people the ability to use Google like I use google...i.e. knowing the modifiers and using them.
what is a fanboi?
Speech Recognition is good. Many questions bumped back with server busy message - difference being it promises to respond when it is able to.
- Call X: Server busy - Thought this is something it can fetch from phone more than from its server.
- Email X: I do not know how to that yet. Ask me for any information.
- Calendar: Online calendars are Google Calendar, Yahoo! Calendar, O2 Calendar. (Those are hyperlinked words which would take you to another Evi Screen with Visit buttons.)
- Distance to Moon: May be you want something about the moon? Try this webpage Moon - Wikipedia. (Hyperlinked to Moon wiki page).
- Stock price of Apple: Try Quote.com for stock
- Height of Everest: Mount Everest's' elevation is 8850 meters, 29000 feet.
- The long sorry message read out is not you would want to hear more than a couple of times in the that unattractive robotic tone.
- It apparently depends on or uses a Text To Service other than the default one. And so the I selected (Pico TTS) is stopping if I am silent for more than 10s with out any audible warning. Which forces me to look whats happening and click on the listen button again.
- One issue that arises with a non-inbuilt TTS is Evi is not in control of the entire end to end experience and can be messed up pretty easily due to the TTSs' clicks, timeouts, quality, capabilities.
So they charge 99 cents for iPhone users who, at least with the 4S have a superior (and free) alternative, but give it away for free on the android market?
I think it should be the other way around... then again, I guess all those iPhone4 people want to talk to their phones, so that their cool friends think they have got a 4S ith Siri.....
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Remember when siri came out it was the SAME problem???
No, because it was up more than it was down. Siri since them has been keeping up. Apple fixed whatever load problem they were having more in terms of hours than days or weeks.
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Siri -> Evi. Please. Lets be a little more original than that. I'm so tired of the non-Apple market simply making cheap knock-offs. I wish someone would step out in front for once.
The Android community will eventually get a Siri equivalent though I doubt Evi is it. But, the more iterations the better and we will eventually get there. I'm glad that there is active development.
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Don't be Evi?
Inheritance is the sincerest form of nepotism.
once you get past the novelty, do you really find any of this voice recognition crap useful? I hate how clumsy and imprecise this sort of thing is, not to mention the insult of having to talk to an inanimate object. I'll keep with using my fingers for now...
Because if you have Android, you could steal it... so its free.
Apple's new slogan: "Don't Be Evi"
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That's the key to Apple's success right there. It's all in the marketing. Take a feature that most people don't know they had (did google ever advertise voice services?) and make it the staple feature of the OS release. It for some reason makes the world salivate in awe.
A few notables are the iCloud, and Facetime. The latter really had me scratching my head given that my not-smart phone was capable of doing that 10 years ago and Apple's Facetime wasn't even compatible with standard video calling methods. But none the less for some completely unknown reason people seem to go mental over these features.
The app seems to be incredibly limited in scope. I tried "What is nine times forty-five?" The TTS service produced "What is 9*45".
Evi's reply: "This looks like a maths question. Try asking it in words rather than using symbols like plus or asterisks".
Like really? It identified it's a maths question, bloody pipe the result through wolfram alpha, or google and read the first answer. I had to re-ask "What is nine multiplied by forty-five?" and it correctly answered.
There seems to be some serious scope issues. I couldn't even begin to ask how to add two numbers together without it complaining about the + symbol. It also sucks with names. In my experience too the app was unable to correctly pronounce Julia Gillard's name. It sounded more like Jill (the name) rather than Gill (fish anatomy) which it really is.
There are quite a number of these Personal Assistant style speech-to-text apps kicking around on Android market and, with the exception of Jeanie and Talk To Me (both of which are complete crap), none of them will install on a Honeycomb tablet. Evi's requirements? "Android 2.2 and up." Hello, Android 3 here, that's better than 2.2! Makes me want to throw the tablet at Google's founders and buy an iPad.
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good post otherwise
Actually, there's another product that's even better than Vlingo in my opinion. Voice Actions by Pannous blew Vlingo out of the water on my wife's iPhone 4. She, like a lot of folks, wanted an iPhone 4s, and yes, she mostly wanted it for Siri. Fortunately (in my opinion) the 4S phones were on back order the day she went to get hers, and she didn't feel like waiting so she got the iPhone 4 rather than spend the extra money for the 4s basically just so she could get 1 app.
At first we tried Vlingo, and it was pretty good, but texting by voice was hit or miss especially if there was ANY kind of background noise. We tinkered with the settings several times, but could quite get it right. We tried a few different applications before we gave Voice Actions a try. My wife was pretty skeptical at this point, and had her mind made up that the only way she was going to get the results she wanted was by getting Siri, and was all but convinced that she was going to have to get an iPhone 4S. Well, she was a quick convert once we installed this app. The original free version had a limit of about 500 phrases (or something like that) that it would translate, then you'd have to un-install it and and re-install it, which was a bit of a pain in the ass, but that's since been fixed. There is apparently a paid version that's even better than the free version, but I think my wife is still using the free version (as far as I know anyway).
Here is a YouTube clip of Voice Actions in action if you want to check it out.
...to do no Evi
Apple will either jail or sue the contributor of this anyhow, so as much as it might rock, it will sit in court with the 100 Billion dollar cashcow.
No doubt it is my weird Aussie / European accent, but I found that of the existing Android voice control apps, Siri and Jeannie both really struggled (they seem to have almost the same, if not the same backend), whereas Vlingo was much more accurate. Vlingo doesn't have as nice an interface as the other two however. YMMV. But Evi is by no means the only Siri competitor.