Ten years ago, your four year old laptop would likely not have able to run the newest OS. Things are a bit more stable now. Phones are 10/20 years behind the computer. It is feature creep. The 4s has taken no performance hit as a phone. A small percentage of them have taken a performance hit as a computer for currently unestablished reasons. It may even be the choice of websites they visit. Pages have been increasingly data/java intense. One reason that ad blocking is now "allowed". Any allegation that Apple is putting in idle cycles would be cause for a massive slander case. Very massive. The legal firm and the clients would not financially survive. Possibly not even physically. Apple has a lot of share holders. Some of them have to be nefarious businesses people.
I doubt anyone would dare to make that allegation. I have no doubt that the 4s will do what it always did. Modern sites, modern java? Not so much, maybe
Crying? I am very happy with mine. I just bought an iPad Pro. Cost me $AU 1699 and $AU 100+ for the pencil. Some of the best money I ever spent. It replaces a Cintiq, DVD player, laptop, most of my phone and stereo (Way! no headphones anymore!). Try adding up those prices. Besides it has already paid for itself by people coming up to me and want me to email a copy of sketches that I have made or they ask me to make.
Calling me an iPhag is a little inappropriate but iHag would be accurate, so I will assume that the 'p' is silent. I think I just took the 'pee' out of you iBaby.
Nope. There are excellent technical reasons for doing this. Apple does do it for a limited time. Considering the problems it could cause it would be unwise to, well I wouldn't even allow for that short term, particularly as the ones who have the slow 4S's (relatively few) have probably stuffed up the phones themselves and got them infested or something.
Windows PC? There are no Windows PCs any more. They are MCs - Microsoft Computers - They come prepwned and steal your encryption keys if the reports I have heard about Windows 10 are correct. No thanks.
That $500 however could be said to be well spent by other facilities. Truth is, I think I am bit slack not to have one of those as the only entry into my network. Yes that could be done cheaper with a Pi but the Mac mini could do much, much more. But yes, I agree, it is an expense. But does $500 cover a machine that can compile and install apps on Android without rooting it?
That $500 should not be considered in comparison costs. It is a conversion cost of moving from one ecosystem to another.
Before you could permit a roll back of the OS (IOS) you would have roll back all applications that had been upgraded to avoid disasters. Just slapping the old operating system back over the new one may work but it creates the scope for many disasters
What and where is this paranoia inspire roadblock? Do you think that Apple routinely checks my files? Consider; terrorism, childporn, any porn, drug comments and use. Logs. Err, you cannot rationally believe that Apple is watching as I type this.
"No porn, no running arbitrary code, no apps that provide similar functionality to their own etc". In the app store. My machine is my own and I can put what I want on it. Apple could change this but I can not see it happening. I do not think that that level of monitoring of so many machines would be readily possible. And no country in the world would allow it to be legal (although that is exactly what they want themselves - see North Korea's Linux).
Yes it is great. Open source at its finest. If you want to do closed source and use Mr. MacRandom's binaries be my guest.
Lol, "easily rooted" is a negative. If you can root it someone else can. The whole point of an iPhone is that you don't need root to install you own software. You are forced to compile it yourself which is sort of sane. If you are an open source person there is very little that you cannot make your iPhone or iPad do, provided you have a Mac with the development environment installed.
Except that as far as I can tell there never has been any automatic update. All are manually started. I think there may have been auto-downloads in the past but the install was alway manually initiated. So, no reason to sue at all.
Okay, this is as much as I remember. Don't get old people, don't get old. I started an IOS update from iTunes on my iMac. I also started one from iPhone 'settings' (accident). When I came back phone was bricked. A factory reset and a restore from backup got me my phone back but I still had to upgrade it again as the OS reported as the prior to the fvcked update. Now you can tell me that this could not have happened and I will not argue. But that is what I remember.
Apple does not restrict what I do to my machine. I do not need to 'root' it. If it does get rooted then I am very happy if Apple fixes it for me. Apple allows me in the front door. I am quite happy that it closes and locks the back door. Apple provides quite an effective condom.
Ok. You say this politely and it makes sense, so I am struggling with a memory that becomes more and more obdurate with every year. I'm thinking that it involved a factory reset. Does that make any sense?
When business planning for a new system you try and evaluate and account for business change and growth. How much CPU, how much RAM, Storage etc. (and then double it if I can get approval). Now at home I need to worry about other things, and I can 'budget' for a tighter system. But phone usage is nothing, nothing like this. New phone needs are not driven by the nature of the phone but by the apps.
My old iPhone 3GS is still good enough as a phone but will not handle modern webpages. That is not even app driven but data driven. There is no way you can predict what capacity you need in your phone because the apps keep changing and then the data the apps use changes. So if you want to play with the best of new apps and the best of new websites then it is only sane to have to expect to upgrade more frequently.
If you don't want to upgrade that often, then restrict your use or accept loss of speed.
Most people do a bit of both and upgrade for a tech point (like fingerprint). I have upgraded for, Capacity, fingerprint and screen size.
Thing is as much as people might see me as a 'fanboy' I see the androids around me replace their phones far more often and have far more trouble with them. They seem to spend more than I do.
Developer subscription? Sorry neither have nor need one.
And you keep pretending you own your own life. It does not work that way anymore. I do not even believe that I "own" my devices now. The last machine I knew I owned was an NEC APC H03. I know I "owned" that because when I purchased it and it arrived they wanted to charge me extra for a technical manual. All I wanted was the details of the system calls. They wanted me to pay and I did not want to. I complained to ACCC (Now https://www.accc.gov.au/consum...). Next think I knew there was a man at my door, begging me to sign an NDA but carefully telling me I do not have to, with a 3x3x4 ft box that contained everything down to chip mask for the proprietary chips. Who knew it was illegal to sell a programmable device in this country without providing the full specifications? That was 1984 and this is now. Nowadays you might just as well assume that you are owned before you open the box.
You are making a silly assumption if you think I trust anyone. You are making an even bigger one if you think you can do something about it.
Amusing that the only computer I "knew" I owned was purchased in 1984.
Slashdot Mirror
I was guessing that the applications in the storage could be read an executed direct from storage. Anyone know about this?
Bollocks.
Very few 4s users are complaining that this is so. Most are perfectly satisfied.
So it is not likely the upgrade per se, is the issue but that there is another factor.
You could have, should have figured that out for yourself but "Gosh, that might require some extra work!"
Can I ask why you are posting at a (supposedly) technical site? You clearly do not think in a logical or technical manner.
I doubt anyone would dare to make that allegation. I have no doubt that the 4s will do what it always did. Modern sites, modern java? Not so much, maybe
Quite likely the 'fees' will be disbarment. Depends on the judge.
Crying? I am very happy with mine. I just bought an iPad Pro. Cost me $AU 1699 and $AU 100+ for the pencil. Some of the best money I ever spent. It replaces a Cintiq, DVD player, laptop, most of my phone and stereo (Way! no headphones anymore!). Try adding up those prices. Besides it has already paid for itself by people coming up to me and want me to email a copy of sketches that I have made or they ask me to make.
Calling me an iPhag is a little inappropriate but iHag would be accurate, so I will assume that the 'p' is silent. I think I just took the 'pee' out of you iBaby.
Nope. There are excellent technical reasons for doing this. Apple does do it for a limited time. Considering the problems it could cause it would be unwise to, well I wouldn't even allow for that short term, particularly as the ones who have the slow 4S's (relatively few) have probably stuffed up the phones themselves and got them infested or something.
Windows PC? There are no Windows PCs any more. They are MCs - Microsoft Computers - They come prepwned and steal your encryption keys if the reports I have heard about Windows 10 are correct. No thanks.
That $500 however could be said to be well spent by other facilities. Truth is, I think I am bit slack not to have one of those as the only entry into my network. Yes that could be done cheaper with a Pi but the Mac mini could do much, much more. But yes, I agree, it is an expense. But does $500 cover a machine that can compile and install apps on Android without rooting it?
That $500 should not be considered in comparison costs. It is a conversion cost of moving from one ecosystem to another.
Before you could permit a roll back of the OS (IOS) you would have roll back all applications that had been upgraded to avoid disasters. Just slapping the old operating system back over the new one may work but it creates the scope for many disasters
What and where is this paranoia inspire roadblock? Do you think that Apple routinely checks my files? Consider; terrorism, childporn, any porn, drug comments and use. Logs. Err, you cannot rationally believe that Apple is watching as I type this.
"No porn, no running arbitrary code, no apps that provide similar functionality to their own etc". In the app store. My machine is my own and I can put what I want on it. Apple could change this but I can not see it happening. I do not think that that level of monitoring of so many machines would be readily possible. And no country in the world would allow it to be legal (although that is exactly what they want themselves - see North Korea's Linux).
Yes it is great. Open source at its finest. If you want to do closed source and use Mr. MacRandom's binaries be my guest.
Thank you. I think you and are the only two people in the world who know this.
If you have an appleID you have that "subscription".
If you had the source code, why not?
It is open source peoples. There is no such thing as an open binary
Lol, "easily rooted" is a negative. If you can root it someone else can. The whole point of an iPhone is that you don't need root to install you own software. You are forced to compile it yourself which is sort of sane. If you are an open source person there is very little that you cannot make your iPhone or iPad do, provided you have a Mac with the development environment installed.
Except that as far as I can tell there never has been any automatic update. All are manually started. I think there may have been auto-downloads in the past but the install was alway manually initiated. So, no reason to sue at all.
Smartphones, backwards compatibility, 10 years... ...What are
you asking for?
How long to you think it would take for an A3 the process a data/java rich webpage designed for modern processors? (The A9 in Apple's case)
Sixty-four bit words on a smaller word processor. Pixel resolution. Memory speed. New sensors.
The only way we can give you what you want is to cease all development for a while. Not a case to propose on a technophile site.
Okay, this is as much as I remember. Don't get old people, don't get old. I started an IOS update from iTunes on my iMac. I also started one from iPhone 'settings' (accident). When I came back phone was bricked. A factory reset and a restore from backup got me my phone back but I still had to upgrade it again as the OS reported as the prior to the fvcked update. Now you can tell me that this could not have happened and I will not argue. But that is what I remember.
Because the "question" is "not even wrong". Apple provides.
You say that like it is a bad thing.
Apple does not restrict what I do to my machine. I do not need to 'root' it. If it does get rooted then I am very happy if Apple fixes it for me. Apple allows me in the front door. I am quite happy that it closes and locks the back door. Apple provides quite an effective condom.
Semantics. I do not really care what words are used. A subscription is paying a regular fee for the regular delivery of a service. Neither happens.
Ok. You say this politely and it makes sense, so I am struggling with a memory that becomes more and more obdurate with every year. I'm thinking that it involved a factory reset. Does that make any sense?
Neither they nor I see a shit sandwich.
When business planning for a new system you try and evaluate and account for business change and growth. How much CPU, how much RAM, Storage etc. (and then double it if I can get approval). Now at home I need to worry about other things, and I can 'budget' for a tighter system. But phone usage is nothing, nothing like this. New phone needs are not driven by the nature of the phone but by the apps.
My old iPhone 3GS is still good enough as a phone but will not handle modern webpages. That is not even app driven but data driven. There is no way you can predict what capacity you need in your phone because the apps keep changing and then the data the apps use changes. So if you want to play with the best of new apps and the best of new websites then it is only sane to have to expect to upgrade more frequently.
If you don't want to upgrade that often, then restrict your use or accept loss of speed.
Most people do a bit of both and upgrade for a tech point (like fingerprint). I have upgraded for, Capacity, fingerprint and screen size.
Thing is as much as people might see me as a 'fanboy' I see the androids around me replace their phones far more often and have far more trouble with them. They seem to spend more than I do.
Never heard of "restore from backup"? Crap.... Did I say that out loud...
Excuse me, but have you never heard the term open source?
You can distribute it as far and wide as you want as open source. Why the fuck would I want or trust your binary anyway?
You know this. Stop digging your hole deeper phantom five.
Developer subscription? Sorry neither have nor need one.
And you keep pretending you own your own life. It does not work that way anymore. I do not even believe that I "own" my devices now. The last machine I knew I owned was an NEC APC H03. I know I "owned" that because when I purchased it and it arrived they wanted to charge me extra for a technical manual. All I wanted was the details of the system calls. They wanted me to pay and I did not want to. I complained to ACCC (Now https://www.accc.gov.au/consum...). Next think I knew there was a man at my door, begging me to sign an NDA but carefully telling me I do not have to, with a 3x3x4 ft box that contained everything down to chip mask for the proprietary chips. Who knew it was illegal to sell a programmable device in this country without providing the full specifications? That was 1984 and this is now. Nowadays you might just as well assume that you are owned before you open the box.
You are making a silly assumption if you think I trust anyone. You are making an even bigger one if you think you can do something about it.
Amusing that the only computer I "knew" I owned was purchased in 1984.
Nolo Contendre. (if you got spare midpoints please update post to which this is a reply)