C++ is ok, but is a very complx language and seems to still be inefficient, compared to other languages.
C++ is very complex, but due to the pragmatic design of the language, its only as complex as you need it to be. Its also just about as efficient as C, assuming that you're careful about what you're doing. Obviously using features that require run-time support such as late binding are going to slow you down, and most compilers still produce less than optimal template code, but its important to distinguish between the language itself, and a particular implementation of the language (compiler).
FORTRAN may still be faster in certain instances due to its static activation records and restricted pointer operations, but in general C++ is not the dog that some people make it out to be. Recompiling a C program with a good C++ compiler will give you about the same performance, but with the added benefit of stronger type checking.
Does anyone have any information on how they acquired this page from its previous owner?
I'm not sure how they aquired the domain, but about a year ago www.ati.com was owned by "Acme Turd Inc.", or some such place. I'm not making this up. They had a big steaming pile of fake dog crap on their front page. It wasn't pretty. The first time I loaded the page, I thought "I must have loaded their Windows drivers page by mistake.":-)
It is super easy to set up (provided you pay attention and notice that sometimes it does not start the swap - it is very annoying when your machine thrashes worse than a 4 MB machine running WinNT).
I had the same problem; I had to edit fstab and add the swap partition. This must be a bug that crept into 2.3; I don't remember having to do this with 2.2.
Also, I get grey-on-black kernel messages overwriting the graphics boot screen in the upper-left corner, which looks really tacky. This happened with 2.2 as well.
My ONLY complaint with OpenLinux is that as far as I can tell there is no way to spread the installation of the distro over several drives. (If anybody knows how to do that let me know.)
I think you can do this by using the "custom" or "expert" partitioning option (I forget what they call it). This will let you set mount points on different partitions, and I think you can do this across multiple drive, although I didn't try it.
Caldera markets its product as "Linux for Business", and has built up a customer base around its VARs. About the last thing they want to do is become associated with the more strident and idiological side of the Linux "community". Caldera is routinely dissed by/. posters, but their customers are happy, and that's what sells product.
I'm more interested in replacing that free (beer) web browser that came with my last Linux distro (or ten).
I've had XFree86 crash exactly once, and that was immediately preeceded by a Netscape crash (it could have been a coincidence). The keyb controller got hammered, and I couldn't ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the server.
I'll keep XFree86, thanks, but I've got to get a better browser some day soon.
The web browser itself was like an older version of Netscape, but with fewer features.
And fewer bugs.
It's not fancy, and it flashes a lot redrawing pages, but it's amazing that they managed to fit a functional browser on a floppy along with the OS. This is clearly a case where "less is more".
And would anyone be impressed by a respose from an anonymous coward who did't attempt to log in?
Here's but one example:
"The complexity of the Linux operating system and cumbersome nature of the existing GUI's would make retraining end-users a huge undertaking and would add significant cost."
Cumbersome nature of the existing GUI's? This particular lie ignores the existance of KDE. I have a friend who had no previous UNIX experience, yet was able to start using KDE almost immediately, since it is so similar in function to the Windows UI. The person who wrote this is either:
a) uniformed
or
b) dishonest
Take your pick. Since MS has sited KDE as an example of competition in federal court, I would be inclined to go with "b".
Anyone who has been using Linux for a while can see the deceptions hiding behind half truths in this article. Since this piece was obviously directed toward MS customers, one has to wonder: if Microsoft is willing to lie to their own customers, what kind of trouble must they be in?
Why would anyone trust their enterprise to a company that displays such a lack of integrity?
Linux can only be said to be based on 30-year old technology if we're talking about the UNIX API. The actual implementation dates back no further then 1991, and I would guess that even most of that has been rewritten, some of it several times. In comparison, the Windows impementation dates back to 1985 (Windows 1.0), or the late seventies if we count DOS.
Once again, I enourage all Mandrake (or KDE based distribution) enthusiast to give the new distribution a try.
I've been using Linux-Mandrake 6.0 as my main distro for several weeks now, and I like it a lot. BUT... I'm not about to upgrade to a release based on a pre-patched kernel, especially considering the memory leaks that have been in the last couple of stable kernels.
IMHO, Linux-Mandrake should have waited until Linus released 2.2.13.
I also recommend Introduction to Algorithms by Cormen, Leiserson, and Rivest. If you don't have the CS background for this book, Addison Wesley published a book called "Practical Algorithms" that contains a lot of code; I think the authors name is Binstock.
I guess their explaination could be true, but I would still feel a bit nervous about using Windows after reading this. Fortunately this issue doesn't concern me.:-)
As sure as the sun rises in the east, there will always be several ACs (or one posting multiple times) complaining about non-GPL lincenses in any Caldera related story posted on slashdot.
If you guys dislike non-GPL software so much, then why don't you get busy and write a GPL'd X server or web browser instead of complaining about someone elses contribution?
I see Bob Young's point, and it seems to me to be entirely reasonable, but this is still a two-edge sword for Red Hat. Lots of people buy Red Hat based on their reputation and market position. Even people who have no intention of calling tech support shell out money for the official Red Hat version of Linux.
But a lot of other people don't, and the easiest way for people selling "knock-off" versions of Red Hat to rename them is to sell Mandrake Linux instead. I don't think many people who are used to buying the unofficial version of Red Hat on CD for a few bucks are going to be persuaded to shell out $40+ for the official version.
I don't know how Red Hat will come out on this, but it can only be good news for Mandrake.
I was suprised; my friend didn't even know that the G4 had been announced! We did go through that thing about the G3 being twice as fast as a P2, but we got past than in about 2 minutes. Maybe there is hope for Mac users after all.:-)
All in all, they're a happier group at the moment than most Amiga users.:-(
What, have you ALREADY forgotten about how the P2 makes the Internet faster?
Or wait, haven't you ever seen those cardstock inserts Intel sticks in almost every computer weekly?
I haven't read (paper) computer mags for years, and I don't watch TV, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. If it's not on slashdot, Linux Today, or LWN, chances are I don't know about it...
I'm scheduled to have dinner with an Apple fanatic tomorrow night, and now this happens. Talk about bad timing. I'm going to have to listen to Apple marketing drivel all night: "it's twice as fast as a pentium, yada yada yada".
I'm sure the G4 is an excellent processor, but there must be some drug Apple users take that makes them believe benchmarks. Nobody in the short history of computing has flaunted inflated benchmarks as shamelessly as Apple.
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C++ is very complex, but due to the pragmatic design of the language, its only as complex as you need it to be. Its also just about as efficient as C, assuming that you're careful about what you're doing. Obviously using features that require run-time support such as late binding are going to slow you down, and most compilers still produce less than optimal template code, but its important to distinguish between the language itself, and a particular implementation of the language (compiler).
FORTRAN may still be faster in certain instances due to its static activation records and restricted pointer operations, but in general C++ is not the dog that some people make it out to be. Recompiling a C program with a good C++ compiler will give you about the same performance, but with the added benefit of stronger type checking.
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Are there that many people on /. who care about Windows games, or is this just a chance for Jon Katz to wear his "I am an anti-Christian bigot" hat?
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I'm not sure how they aquired the domain, but about a year ago www.ati.com was owned by "Acme Turd Inc.", or some such place. I'm not making this up. They had a big steaming pile of fake dog crap on their front page. It wasn't pretty. The first time I loaded the page, I thought "I must have loaded their Windows drivers page by mistake." :-)
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I had the same problem; I had to edit fstab and add the swap partition. This must be a bug that crept into 2.3; I don't remember having to do this with 2.2.
Also, I get grey-on-black kernel messages overwriting the graphics boot screen in the upper-left corner, which looks really tacky. This happened with 2.2 as well.
TedC
I think you can do this by using the "custom" or "expert" partitioning option (I forget what they call it). This will let you set mount points on different partitions, and I think you can do this across multiple drive, although I didn't try it.
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Those were glorious times, but some people don't know when to let go...
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I've had XFree86 crash exactly once, and that was immediately preeceded by a Netscape crash (it could have been a coincidence). The keyb controller got hammered, and I couldn't ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the server.
I'll keep XFree86, thanks, but I've got to get a better browser some day soon.
TedC
And fewer bugs.
It's not fancy, and it flashes a lot redrawing pages, but it's amazing that they managed to fit a functional browser on a floppy along with the OS. This is clearly a case where "less is more".
Alas, its not open source...
TedC
Here's but one example:
"The complexity of the Linux operating system and cumbersome nature of the existing GUI's would make retraining end-users a huge undertaking and would add significant cost."
Cumbersome nature of the existing GUI's? This particular lie ignores the existance of KDE. I have a friend who had no previous UNIX experience, yet was able to start using KDE almost immediately, since it is so similar in function to the Windows UI. The person who wrote this is either:
a) uniformed
or
b) dishonest
Take your pick. Since MS has sited KDE as an example of competition in federal court, I would be inclined to go with "b".
TedC
Why would anyone trust their enterprise to a company that displays such a lack of integrity?
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I've been using Linux-Mandrake 6.0 as my main distro for several weeks now, and I like it a lot. BUT... I'm not about to upgrade to a release based on a pre-patched kernel, especially considering the memory leaks that have been in the last couple of stable kernels.
IMHO, Linux-Mandrake should have waited until Linus released 2.2.13.
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I guess their explaination could be true, but I would still feel a bit nervous about using Windows after reading this. Fortunately this issue doesn't concern me. :-)
TedC
If you guys dislike non-GPL software so much, then why don't you get busy and write a GPL'd X server or web browser instead of complaining about someone elses contribution?
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But a lot of other people don't, and the easiest way for people selling "knock-off" versions of Red Hat to rename them is to sell Mandrake Linux instead. I don't think many people who are used to buying the unofficial version of Red Hat on CD for a few bucks are going to be persuaded to shell out $40+ for the official version.
I don't know how Red Hat will come out on this, but it can only be good news for Mandrake.
TedC
All in all, they're a happier group at the moment than most Amiga users. :-(
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http://uutiset.amiga.tm/
Or wait, haven't you ever seen those cardstock inserts Intel sticks in almost every computer weekly?
I haven't read (paper) computer mags for years, and I don't watch TV, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. If it's not on slashdot, Linux Today, or LWN, chances are I don't know about it...
TedC
I'm sure the G4 is an excellent processor, but there must be some drug Apple users take that makes them believe benchmarks. Nobody in the short history of computing has flaunted inflated benchmarks as shamelessly as Apple.
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Any ideas?
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Yes, you are correct; I was confusing GNUStep with Window Maker. GNUStep does sound interesting.
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Because any company using Linux is on a free media ride.
NeXTSTEP is *SO* Sexy to inspire GNUStep. (where is the Amiga OS clone?)
GNUStep is a window manager, not an OS clone. Here's an Amiga window manager for Linux:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~marcus/amiwm .html
TedC
There's an image of the Transmeta frame posted at AmigaNation.
http://home.att.net/~Amiga401/news.htm
I tried to download the video itself a couple of times, but it was corrupted and wouldn't play.
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