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Mandrake 6.1 Is Out (For Real This Time)
Several readers have written in with the news that, yes, Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Helios) is out. The ISOs, and the whole bit are availible from their site as well as mirrors around the Web.
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mandrake used to be the redhat with kde-- now because of redhat's evolution, how strictly based is mandrake on redhat?
I'am happy that Mandrake guys challenge Redhat. It's force RH to improve their own product and it benefits for the users.
I just ordered a copy of Mandrake 6.0 this week, it hasn't even arrived and already it's obsolete. Oh well, I figure it's a case of murphy's law for computer systems. I bought Word Perfect 6.0 for Dos for my 3 computer and it came with Windows 3.1 installed.
Posting anonymously, because apparently slashdot.org doesn't like to admit aol has intelligent users.
A distrib itself can never be too new, but the packages on this distrib are too new. 6.1 features a enlightenment 16pre and kernel 2.2.13pre combined with KDE 1.1.2 which was just released. mandrake is just not pushing the envelope but perhaps selling the stuff inside the bag before they process it-- something my street man would never do.
So what I'm wondering is, what really defines the distrobution? It seems that upgrading to Mandrake 6.1 (which I'll probably do) supplies a newer kernel, as well as newer libraries and apps (ie, apache, etc). Is that all this is? Or are install scripts and other stuff changed? And where does most of the differences between distros manifest itself (besides what the default options are, like KDE vs GNOME)??
It was just the pre-release (available from long time).
If anybody can install Mandrake 6.1 via ftp on a laptop, let me know.
You just cant.
I have the same problem, but I'm running RedHat 5.2, kernel 2.0.36.
Because this post was soo long, it makes interesting posts site WAY WAY down on the page and go unread, which sucks.
All you had to do is link the page with this info, not paste the entire contents of the page in the comment box!!!
The Linux distribution I'd give the undisputed "most tested" title to is Debian. I agree completely. Debian is very well tested distribution...I'd agree it's the most tested and stable. Debian is nice, but it's users need some serious help, they seem to all fall in the "evanglist" catagory, and constantly just live to dis Red Hat. Debian's slow development is another problem. Well tested == slow releases. Do you realize how long after kernel 2.2.x came out they were still haveing people download 2.1.x for default installation? Some people aren't into the "kernel of the week" thing, and would rather just update everything a couple times a year that compiling thier own kernel and updating all the packages by hand because the release of Debain has soo much old stuff in it. Which brings me to Debians bigest failure.... dselect. My gosh... no one denies how bad it sucks, and you can't do an installation without facing this beast. Yet all the Debian evanglists claim "oh, you don't need it, other than that, it's great." Well, if it's _just that_ why don't they spend some time on fixing that one dang thing? Thanks, but no thanks... If I can't have FreeBSD, I'll take SuSE. If I can't get either, I'll take Red Hat. Debian users alone are enough reason for me to avoid it...
Yes, yes, and yes.
You can easily swith to the latest gcc: just download it from cooker (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/cooker)
So put /usr/local on its own partition! I've upgraded Linux twice now, and that little trick makes it almost completely painless. Just restore the backup and your home directory. I admit that I haven't yet had an upgrade major enough to warrant recompiling the applications, and that might make it more of a pain. But Debian is almost as good as BSD when it comes to ease of installation and package management; with a little effort, you could make packages out of any source tarballs you had that needed it, and make them part of your backup.
I know Mandrake is suppose to be based on Red Hat, but I also see there are some significant differances in some of the packages, which may confuze it, and cause me to loose some data.
Mostly I am worried about my KDE setup, my MySQL database, and the stuff in /home (which should be the least of my worries).
Anyone able to comment on how this works first hand.....
Why isn't this release called Mandrake 1.2? Its not like they have been through six major revisions yet.
Redhat's version is bloated enough, but at least there were major, incompatible changes between revisions (e.g. libc)
I've been using Linux-Mandrake 6.0 as my main distro for several weeks now, and I like it a lot. BUT... I'm not about to upgrade to a release based on a pre-patched kernel, especially considering the memory leaks that have been in the last couple of stable kernels.
IMHO, Linux-Mandrake should have waited until Linus released 2.2.13.
TedC
Corporations may be effectively targeted by Red Hat, though. I noticed a post yesterday where someone said he was choosing Red Hat to push at work despite those problems for the very reason that the PHB's have seen it mentioned in a good light in the standard PHB-oriented publications. Of course, given that Mandrake won the Linux product of the year award at LWCE, which had a 'suit-friendly' aroma, and that Caldera also won an award, I wouldn't regard Red Hat dominance in this segment as a given.
I think consumers could easily sway between Mandrake, Red Hat or Corel (once released), as they tend to be more about pushing the envelope on "new user gui friendliness", which recently has necessarily meant releasing quickly. For instance, the new kernels and X support evermore devices.
I think Red Hat is really blowing it the hardware certification area, though. That the only machine they've certifed was one that contained a winmodem demonstrates a profound lack of ethics, imho.
Of course, this is from the geek "big picture" and not from the business "big picture".. I'm guessing the businessmen at Red Hat thought it would be great to further legitimize themselves by having a hardware certification program and to grant IBM a favor to promote good relations with a huge industry player. But, as their IPO risks statement said, they risk losing the support of the community. I think this is a risk that could have easily been avoided by picking a different model to certify. (Was the Thinkpad really doing that poorly against competing laptops that IBM felt they had to push this one for Red Hat certification? Do they really think this will affect their future sales positively?)
I think it's critical that any of the doors Red Hat is given credit to for opening should really be opened. Speaking from experience, it really sucks walking into a screen.
Is it possible to downgrade the kernel (based on the mandrake kernel rpm I guess). I finally have a working sblive install and I would hate to lose it, but want to upgrade to the latest mandrake. cos mandrake is real nice.
Is Gnome included?
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I run Mandrake 6.0 and I like it very much. I used to think of Mandrake as nothing more then RedHat with KDE slapped on top of it -- and I started to hate Redhat with a passion after it killed my partition table. That was until the article on /. that said Mandrake had been awarded Product of the Year. I immediately downloaded a copy and installed it (got to love the cable modem :).
/usr is counter-productive and confusing since all the KDE apps expect it to be under /opt/kde. Download an rpm of any KDE app -- it'll install itself under /opt/kde.
From what I can tell so far, it's an award well deserved. Although it still felt like RedHat initially (esp. the installation part), it turned out to be RedHat that actually works. And works very well I must say. Pentium optimizations turned out to speed up the system a lot. All the apps seem to have a significantly smaller memory footprint (I'm assuming that's the effect of the optimizations?), and that causes the system to swap much less and load apps faster. Oh, and the colorized gcc output is kind of neat.
There were, of course, a few things that I didn't like about it. First of all, KDE was not in the standard location. Putting KDE under
Secondly, and that's not something specific to KDE, it doesn't have the nice key mappings for vim that SuSE has. SuSE puts a lot of key mappings in the vimrc file so that the arrows, home/end, pgup/pgdn, etc. always work properly. No big deal -- I just copied the vimrc file.
Finally, for some reason, Netscape seems to crash a lot more often. Perhaps it has something to do with glibc2.1?
I can only hope that Mandrake 6.1 is just as good. However, I'm worried that Mandrake is starting to do what RedHat is doing -- ship beta and pre-release packages. I don't like that it ships with a pre-release kernel as well as betas of other apps, as Skeezix has pointed out. To Mandrake team: please please please don't repeat RedHat's mistakes.
Oh, and once again, great job guys!
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Well, releasing 'pre' versions is a habit they picked up from Red Hat :). As long as they follow Red Hat's practice of announcing the 'final' release as a free download, it shouldn't present a problem.
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I'm just glad they didn't jump on glibc 2.1.2 right away.
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I was just browsing their ftp site and I didn't see gcc or egcs there. I saw pgcc instead. Can anybody here comment as to what is the basis for this choice? From what little I know pgcc is optimized for pentium and uses some of MMX. How is it for floating point compared to gcc/egcs?
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I've used Mandrake 6 for the past 3 months and feel the same way. I've upgraded E, Tcl/tk, gnome, KDE, Netscape, linuxconf, and added a ton of other stuff. This isn't like Windows where the OS is kept under lock and key and certain configuration can be assumed for upgrading. But Linux can't. You can't assume that the installation configuration will still be the same when it comes time to upgrade.
I'm not sure about upgrading. How does it work? Will it mess my system up? Has anyone else upgraded Mandrake? How about some feedback?
-Brent--
You have a valid point. I too would feel more comfortable with a non-pre kernel. The problem is that there is no way to know how long it will be until 2.2.13 comes out. Were are on pre-9 already.
And going back to the last stable kernel 2.2.12 really isn't a good idea either. 2.2.12 (and 2.2.11) was riddled with wide spread problems. I respect Mandrake for trying to stay on the cutting edge as well as ensuring that their distributions are stable.
Please remember, 2.2.13-pre3 has been out for a while and we have been hammering it pretty hard to make sure it is stable. And, of course, as soon as 2.2.13 finally is released it won't be long before Mandrake release a small update package.
It's not that I disagree with your observations, I just don't think the issue is so big as to scare someone off from a much improved distro release.
Cheers!
I've been following the development of Mandrake's latest release from 6.0 to 6.1 very closely. I strongly encourage anyone running an older version of Mandrake to upgrade.
There are major changes in this release which are very much worth taking advantage of. Most people will enjoy the new graphical installer and graphical disk partitioner. These things make it nicer for the average user to install. But more importantly than that, 6.1 is the first release benefitting from Mandrake's "cooker" process.
Mandrake 6.0, while being very good, was chock full of small annoying and disruptive problems. After the experience with 6.0, Mandrake opened it's development process up to the public. Thos of us who have chosen to participate have been able to download and intall development versions of 6.1 and make suggestions for improvements.
This means that 6.1 has the inputs and suggestions of far more people than any previous release. Hopefully we have all found the "gotcha" issues before the official release this time. I am confident that the 6.1 release is far more stable and gotcha-free than the 6.0 release.
Once again, I enourage all Mandrake (or KDE based distribution) enthusiast to give the new distribution a try.
Cheers!
--Jamin Philip Gray
jamin@DoLinux.org
Celebrate the finer things in life
...But don't take my word for it..try it out. I plan on ordering a CD from CheapBytes as soon as it's available.
--Jamin Philip Gray
jamin@DoLinux.org
Celebrate the finer things in life
- Linux-Kernel: 2.2.13 (pre4)
- Enlightenment 0.16-dev5
- GnomeICU 0.66 (according to the GnomeICU Homepage, 0.66 hasn't been released yet..it's still in developement!
And there are other examples of software that has barely been tested...
And while I respect the fact that they are no longer basing their distribution on RedHat, they do claim compatibility with RedHat. I fear that by releasing their distribution prior to RedHat's release they risk some incompatibility.
Redhat now has a chance to "one-up" Mandrake's distribution if they choose to.
Just a few thoughts...
--Jamin Philip Gray
jamin@DoLinux.org
Celebrate the finer things in life
... is here, with info on the major updates and changes.
If you have ever tried Mandrake you know that they always try to have the most cutting edge software at the time of the release of their distro. I have already download the kernel RPM and have been using it without any problems. Mandrake does a good job at making sure the development software they do include is not too buggy. KDE 1.1.2 has been released and is ready for consumption. If you want software that is all final and nothing cutting edge, than you should use redhat, even though it still is buggy.
I'm running 6.1 (Cassini) beta, that I upgraded from 6.0 so while I can't quite comment on the final 6.1 version I can say that my upgrade on two different machines went flawlessly.
.bashrc in /root but left my /home/"user" directorys alone. Some extra libraries that I had installed were gone (jdk etc), which was okay since I had the wrong version anyways and it never worked, now I finally downloaed and installed the correct version. Left everything in /usr/local alone.
Upgrading is rather a painless process, boot off the cd or diskette like a normal install and then tell it you want to upgrade instead of install a new version of Mandrake. The install routine will check all the packages you currently have installed can chose those as out of the newer version as the default (along with any new dependency's or libraries required), from that point you can either continue as is or add / remove packages from the upgrade process. Tell it to run and 10-20min later your rebooting into your new system.
post install left 98% of my systems intact, a few changes were a couple new icons on my kde desktops. It replaced my
Since I use XIG's Accelerated X I did have uninstall / re-install XFree86 and X a couple times to get everything working the way I wanted it again. Overall after the initial upgrade probably about 1hr of tweaking for each machine to fix the minor changes in my system(s).
And I think as broadband net access becomes gradually more and more plentiful and the average linux user more and more knowledgeable, then this sentiment might grow a little.
-- Oh Well
Its only to be expected that we will be seeing floods of first time or new users eager to try out Linux with the media profile of our favourite OS being what it is nowadays. But what will happen as the userbase matures ?
I'm sure I'm not the only Linux user who has started to move away from using the shrink wrapped stuff. You install a Red Hat, or a Suse or a Mandrake or whatever, you spend a few months setting loads of stuff up , tweaking it , installing all of your favourite gizmos and libraries from source, graudually making your box as comfortable as a pair of well worn slippers. Then six months down the line attracted by the shiny new box on the shelf at PC world you buy a updated copy and do the upgrade thing. Then you spend the next 2 weeks in mild shock getting everything working the way it used to again.
And after doing that once, how inclined are you to to fork out your dollars to go through that experience again ?
-- Oh Well
It's a good thing I'm not one of those ultra-geeks that has to have the absolute latest of everything or I'd never get around to anything more than the updates.
I keep thinking this rapid rollout will subside but it just keeps going!!! Keep it up!!
D. Keith Higgs
CWRU. Kelvin Smith Library
My office has been taken over by iPod people.
fyi: Mandrake 6.0 does come with ppp...
Sorry for being off topic, but I thought I'd ask this anyway...
When using Netscape 4.61 on Mandrake 6.0, my netscape icons are appearing black and grey even though I'm running at 24 bpp color. I tried uninstalling and reinstaling but no luck. Has anyone else had this problem?
I understand your frustration but i run Mandrake 6.0 and it is certainly not obsolete. I've had no problems with it. I find it a great distribution when I want to quickly slap a distro onto a disk.
I install everything and it all works when I reboot. It's also very quick.
There's really no need to keep upgrading all the time unless there is some new feature that you need.
I've been running FreeBSD 2.2.8 for a little while and have only recently considered upgrading to a new release.
The next time you want to try out a distro you might want pick up one of the $1.99 cheapbyte CDs.
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The main problem i have is mandrake is bleeding edge..too bleeding. RedHat is bad enough with the bleeding edge stuff but at least they dont release 2.2.13pre4 kernels or cutting edge gnome stuff. I was also disappointed with some incompatibilities between mandrake and redhat in 6.0..the setup programs seem to be slightly different..the sound+network configs seem to have changed (does PPP come with mandrake 6?)..and mandrake has begun to fork a lot off redhat without any real backup..im not too sure you can upgrade a redhat to mandrake and vice versa or use the same rpm packages anymore..Anyway, i think that mandrake is basically a redhat knockoff which has lost sight of its original goal - to be a better redhat than redhat.
Bother. I am a Windows developer who has just seen the light, and I just forked over $12 for a mail-order CD set of Mandrake 6.0. I hope upgrading's not too big of a deal - but probably couldn't be harder than making room for it in the first place. I was pretty convinced of Mandrake's superiority when I first started looking around, though.
From the announcement page: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliosannounce.ph p3
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Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Helios) is released.
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/
Sep, 17 1999
Hello,
We are very pleased to announce the new version of the Linux
distribution that won the "Product of the year" award at LinuxWorld
Expo'99. Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Helios), the first Linux distribution
to include the new XFree 3.3.5 and KDE1.1.2, is available.
This is the latest release of our user-friendly and flexible desktop
Linux-based operating system. It is currently available for download
via FTP, in both traditional and iso-image formats.
o Introduction
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Thanks to our dedicated staff and the Linux community, this new
release of Mandrake takes an important step on our way to make Linux
distributions better, faster and easier-to-use.
o Mandrake 6.1 features
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Core system
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- Linux-Kernel: 2.2.13 (pre4)
- XFree86: 3.3.5
- Glibc: 2.1.1
- RPM: 3.0.3
- Bash: 2.03
- KDE: 1.1.2 [with Mandrake customization]
- Gnome: built from 1.0.4->1.0.14 versions [with Mandrake
customization]
- Enlightenment 0.16-dev5, Windowmaker 0.60, AfterStep 1.7.111, XFCE
3.0.2, IceWM 0.9.48
- Apache 1.3.9 with useful modules (PHP3, Perl, Midgard, MySQL,
PGSQL...), pluggable with cryptographic extensions available from
several unrestricted FTP servers.
All packages have been compiled with CPU optimizations for
pentium-class (intel, amd, cyrix, winchip...) and higher processors
resulting in speed improvements up to 30%.
Improvements and add-ons
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- Most packages are updated to their latest stable versions.
- Many supplementary KDE apps and Gnome apps like kdevelop, klilo,
xmms...
- Mandrake customized Apache 1.3.9
- MySQL 3.20 (GPL) + 3.22 (not to be resold).
- Enlightenment 0.16 development version 5. many new features such
as, Window grouping, Full pager support, Preliminary KDE compliance.
- XFCE 3.0.2 is now part of the distribution.
- Mandrake customized XFree 3.3.5 with support for new encodings
(Armenian, Ukrainian, Thai, Vietnamese, Lao, Georgian...)
- Mandrake optimized X-TT/FreeType server.
- More complete and generally improved internationalization (Japanese
TT fonts, more man-pages, more ispell dictionaries...).
- Easier access to Dos/Windows(tm) partitions.
- Enhanced documentation.
- All current bug/security fixes.
Mandrake still features:
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- Creation of an user account during installation
- Graphics tests while installation, permitting to boot directly in
graphical mode.
- Improved hardware support (ISDN, CD-Writers, Windows(tm) keys).
- CD-ROM and Floppy-disks can be mounted by non privileged users,
just by typing "mount
- Multiple graphical desktops choice: KDE, Gnome, AfterStep,
WindowMaker, XFCE and IceWM (with session choice in KDM/GDM).
- Scalable fonts support in all X applications and for printing (with
ready-to-use True Type(tm) fonts provided).
- Mandrake KDE and Gnome customization, with preconfigured desktop.
- Many KDE themes available.
- Better accents (and special characters management under X and
console).
- Better locale man-pages management and displaying, following the
$LANG environment variable.
- Easy automatic distribution update system from the graphical
desktop.
- Applications such as Wine, Postfix...
o Compatibility
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Linux-Mandrake is compatible with Red Hat(tm) Linux. This means that
you can install any RPM package made for Red Hat in Linux-Mandrake.
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http://www.linux-mandrake.com/
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Linux-Mandrake 6.0 has won two LinuxWorld Editors' Choice Awards and a
runner up at LinuxWorld Expo, San Jose, CA in August 1999:
* Best Linux Product of the Year.
* Best Distribution/Server.
* finalist for Best Distribution/Client.
What is Linux-Mandrake?
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Linux-Mandrake is inspired by Red Hat(tm) Linux, with many
improvements and pre-configured applications which make it easier to
use for the beginners, and faster for everyone.
Main goals of this new distribution:
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- We want to provide a working and easy-to-install Linux distribution
for people who do not want to spend too much time on installation and
configuration of their Linux system, while still being configurable
for experts. Just install Mandrake and USE IT!
- We want to provide a very attractive, easy-to-use, Linux System for
both, novices and experts alike.
- We want to provide a rock-stable and fast Linux server system with
many features for Internet servers.
- We want to provide a very attractive distribution in a well-known
linux environment (Red Hat Linux).
Previous versions:
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- Mandrake 5.1 (Venice)
- Mandrake 5.2 (Leeloo)
- Mandrake 5.3 (Festen)
- Mandrake 6.0 (Venus)
Current version:
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- Mandrake 6.1 (Helios)
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PRESS COMMENTS
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`PC-Expert' (french ZD-Net publication): Mandrake: "currently the best
distribution"!!
`PC-Magazin' (Germany - issue April99): "Mandrake earns a big point
for their intelligent configuration of KDE."
"The best Distribution of Linux available" -- Reviews' R' Us.
"I really like Mandrake" -- Nicholas Petreley
"For ease of getting started, I recommend Mandrake" -- Christian
Computing Magazine
"You can't go wrong buying Mandrake; it is an excellent Linux
distribution, and I suspect I will keep using it as a desktop OS" --
CPU Review
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http://www.linux-mandrake.com/
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However, yesterday morning I upgraded from RH5.2 to RH6.0, the second such upgrade I've done on this PII, and it went much more smoothly than the equivalent changes by hand
Sure, an experienced user like me has 20--30 minutes of tweaks to apply after the install finishes, but RH makes it easy to see what they've changed (.rpmsave files) and what they didn't risk changing (.rpmnew files)
The user-side configuration, thanks to the beauty of Unix, is untouched and remains ready to go.
Almost all the changes RH made would have improved the system for a newbie, and wouldn't have needed tweaking if I didn't fiddle.
e.g. They added procmail rules to sendmail.cf, thus voiding my old
The new settings seemed tighter, and the install process itself was flawless (500+ packages updated in 1 hour over FTP, much quicker than by hand)
Even for Linux power users, RH/Debian/Mandrake/ whatever are *much* easier to keep up-to-date than any other OS I've seen.
Well, being a Slackware, then SuSE person, I've never been at all impressed with RedHat and related distros.... but I downloaded and installed Mandrake 6.1's ISO about 2 weeks ago (downloaded the whole distribution a week ago) and I like it. Maybe it IS like Redhat, but it's quite fast and doesn't remind me too much of Redhat (Good Thing). And for the record, I prefer Gnome/E or WM, not K.
My big question is... if Mandrake 6.1 is only just now finally out, what the heck is that I've had installed for a while that SAYS it's Mandrake 6.1???????
Did I miss something here? I don't remember where I got my files, but I think I was smokin' the DSL wires from Georgia Tech's site downloading the full 6.1 release at LEAST a week ago.
Downloaded iso-image, burned cd with cdrecord, installed as workstation to new HDD using boot from CDROM.
Yes I got nicely configured newest programs better than I can configure for sure, but it is rough edged. Some icon images used as button below the pull down menu seems to be scrumbled. May be due to my X to be 16 bit color, which I do not know.
I will boot this again a month later and run MandrakeUpdate (BTW, this is not installed in the original installation process even though icon sits on the desk top.). Then it should be better.
To me, Mandrake distribution offers a nice hobby PC workstation with nice desktop to play with .
Good job Mandrake!!!
I got started with slack 3.0 about a year ago.. learned to use linux through manpages, irc, and 'learning experiences' (read - breaking things)
.6, redhat 5.2, and mandrake 5.3 through 6.0 I originally decided to go with mandrake, since i was planning to get kde for RH anyways. ive found that mandrake typically is much less buggy than redhat, and theyve done better jobs with setting up the desktop and several other small conveniences. I personally dont think that mandrake is simply copying off of redhat, because most of the stuff in the development version of mandrake is compiled from sources, usually on the same day the updates are released. Theyre keeping up a remarkable pace of development on their distro, and i applaud that. Also, they are working on a few projects of their own, such as panoramix - a graphical installation tool, and diskdrake - a free clone of partition magic (something like that anyways.. its still in the eat-harddrives stage)
Since then, ive used a 1.something of openlinux, slack 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, enoch
At present, im running mandrake on two of my desktop boxes (router is running slack). The development version of mandrake, aka cooker, has new and upgraded packages practically every day, which lets you stay relatively bleeding-edge with a minimum hassle. i like mandrake-gnu-linux.
They already had kde 1.1.2 packed as a lovely RPM at Rpmfind.net quite a few days before I could read the announcement of the Tarball release on /.
For Red-Hat : if they're suicidal enough to depart from Mandrake, they'll regret it sooner or later. The guys at Mandrake really do a hell of a job. Red Hat may decide to benefit from it (Open Source mind : Good Thing) or they just may close up and lock themselves into some ivory tower (MS mind ; Bad Thing).
Tell me : what would be the gain of consciously cutting compatibility with all the nifty things the Mandrakers are doing right now ?
Thomas Miconi
Karma Police - Please be calm, be quiet, be at ease, please don't try to escape...
I am using Cheapbytes Mandrake 6.0 and have preordered the Mandrake 6.1 power pak from Linuxmall.
Any idea when Mandrake will ship the shrinkwrapped boxes??
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