Came here thinking exactly this. I need an app like this for my phone. Think we can get these guys to update their package for the lastest versions? I could use an easy root.
I was thinking the same thing about a different part....corrupted backups. Old job had a mail server update that broke the backups in a subtle way: it corrupted the mailbox names such that the path wouldn't match when the restore looked for it.
As support waved a dead chicken over it, I learned a few commands that turned out to be how to dump data streams off the tape from the command line, and was able to write a perl script to extract mailboxes that we needed, but, we were not exactly able to put the kind of pressure on vendors that gets them to go any further than "Sorry your backups are corrupt"; we were on our own to solve it after that.
> Because at base, it is a non-sequitar, one of those war on drugs nothing is too extreme for our holy cause actions.
Its not non-sequitor when the person you are arguing against couldn't pass a drug test himself. A lot of wealthy high income people would never pass a drug test and they know it.
In a way, I kind of like it. That should be the threat. Maybe they will finally defang the drug war if it starts being used against them. I bet you dollars to donuts if you started threatening to drug test enough congressmen and business owners, the controlled substances act will be repealed within a few weeks.
No. a couple of states have done it. The main incident I know of is Florida where the Governor's Wife actually owned the drug testing company. It was basically a naked grab for money and it worked. They spent millions and recovered thousands.... meaning it was nothing but a net loss directly into the Governor's personal bank accounts.
Its frightening but, the phone company already has the tower data which gives them like 90% of this stuff and that is wide open to the government. Hell sprint a few years back had information about their portal linked... government pays money....gets access to your data. No oversight, no attempt....just monetization.
Wow do you always go around making so many assumptions?
As I said, I avoid installing those apps. Yes, I have to trust more companies than I would like, I don't see why that means I should assume nothing works at all and just give up.
Just because its hard or impossible to decrease the amount of tracking on your to 0 doesn't mean that decreasing the insane amounts of it going on and shutting down some of its most prolific avenues has no value.
Because I don't install special snowflake apps on my phone, and VERY VERY few of the ones I do get approved to ask for location data, and I take away any permissions I don't think they need.
First thing I did with my new phone was disable permentantly the first app that asked for my location data. (some hidden NFL app)
> It's a delicate balancing act. If we tick off enough nations, they'll fork and go their own way without us.
Define "us"?
If a viable alternative DNS system arose, I would gladly use it. In those terms, "we", the internet using community, including those of us in the US, don't really need to care what decision they make.
Personally, I consider your warning a good plan. Congress should grip onto this as tightly as possible so we can create the impetus to create a better system....one they can never even grab a grain of.
> You got to watch people though who in preaching something contradict the very thing they preach.
Very much this. Not everyone is ideological, and not everyone who is has an ideology that values openness and truth.
Some pretty bad guys often have their interests pretty well aligned with free speech activists. Plus people are complicated and can come up with all sorts of twisted logic to justify things.
But I am also pretty familiar at this point with seeing people who did very good work turn out to be deeply flawed people personally.
A news story had me looking up some of the Stratfor leak emails, and I found a little gem in there, a bit of intelligence service humor, but, I think its also a pretty interesting statement on people: https://wikileaks.org/IMG/pdf/...
"Patriot: A source who is betraying his country for ideological, religious, patriotic or other unreliable beliefs. Very dangerous person. He could change his mind."
That is the hard thing. The allegations are not entirely unbelievable; yet.... its also not like infiltration and use of sexual allegations against people is unheard of. In fact, its pretty well acknowledged as a tried and true tactic of intelligence services around the world.
Anyone who has read Reflections on Trusting Trust should, of course, be able to ask that question and answer it. Of course its possible, but who are you going to trust?
Fact is, this program exists, and is exploitable. *IF* we trust that the permissions work, then we can conclude that leaving them open leaves an explotable program open to misusing them at the request of a person who exploits it.
By turning off this permission, I can hope that this attempt will fail, and even expect it will. I can't say with any certainty that I know for sure it will, or that it is not circumventable, but.... there are limits to how far down the rabbit hole its useful for me to go if I want to be able to discuss or do anything. At some point the conclusion is either "don't buy a phone" or "accept that I have to trust someone".
This is why the moment I got my new phone I started disabling things. This is why the moment I saw that half the apps on my phone wanted permission to use the camera and microphone, all but 4 of them got denied that going forward.
I garauntee you facebook apps have these permissions and don't need them. The camera app takes photos, camera access is not even needed to access already stored photos....its off.
You know, I never considered that. With the prevalence of empty houses around the country, that is probably a far more common tactic for selling illegal goods than it otherwise would be.
tldr; craigslist isn't all that shady; also, if you have the wrong impression and I think it will be fun to leave you with it; I will likely encourage your fantasy.
Seriously, these guys looked like they just saw some shit out of a movie, it was kinda hilarious.
actually, I had lots of great experiences with craigslist; we used it almost exclusively for finding roomates. I had a couple of issues with scammers who delayed me by a day or two, and the usual issue of occasional bad roomates, but nothing worst than you find anywhere.
It is hillariously shady sometimes, or at least, people think it is.
I found some random crap in my basement left by a long departed (evicted, deadbeat) roomate and realized I could get $50 for a turntable he left behind. So I look it up to figure a price and put it up on craigslist. I based it on model numbers and ebay postings, and knocked a few bucks off based on other posts due to missing needles (I found those much later). Well maybe the price was low because the guy who called about it was a bit sketchy about it being stolen.
They came over, they bought it, they still were all nervous. As we wrap up a buddy of mine calls, we were heading out to lunch, so I walk out with them...and he rolls up.... 50 years old, perfect silver hair, dark sunglasses, and the blackest Ford LTD obvious former police cruiser you ever saw.
They looked at me and their eyes went wide "who is that", I just smiled, said "Just a friend of mine, don't worry about it" and walked over to the car. Lol let them have their fantasy if they want. They don't need to know they just watched two IT nerds who work from home occasionally heading off to get subs and bitch about work.
You know what happens when I get an email? Nothing. Not till I open my email and look.
Email is asynchronous communications. Email that expects 24 hour response is stupid on the senders part. You want fast response, use the right channel, or at least give me a heads up in the right channel.
You can send me 1000 emails all night long, wont disturb me one bit.
And? If you distrust your OS vendor so much that you have to block their search servers at your router, maybe you are in a losing battle and its time to switch battlefields. I am seriously thinking of going back to single booting linux instead.
The sad part is you are somewhat right about security issues. 7 wont be getting security updates at some point
However, its no panacea and its offensive as fuck. Ads? Even when privacy settings are enabled, its still talking to bing like crazy. As far as I can tell, the only way to be even a little bit private with your windows usage is to block bing at your border routers.
Since I don't see how these "signals" could be used to reliably product a cryptographic key to unlock the data, seems to me like they are inherently inferior to the password.
Why take a step backwards technologically from something bad but workable to something unworkable?
On May 11th Ornig received a prison sentence of 15 months suspended for duration of three years, provided that he doesn't repeat any of the offenses for which he was found guilty (illegal access of the communications system). He can appeal this judgment.
A pretty standard sort of thank you from people who run a government. He is lucky, a lot of them end up in body bags or crippled and homeless for helping politicians and their machinations.
You know the real truth is, they are more afraid he will expose corruption than they are of their communications not being secure. Its probably a valid concern for them.
Honestly, the only reason I would EVER agree to a polygraph is if the entire session could be recorded, and I get to walk out with a copy of the tape.... so I can truely cherish telling him to turn his worthless prop on so he can start scamming his pay.
tbh I don't give a shit who decided that it was ok to pressure people to let you violate their medical privacy. Drug tests show activities that happen during non-work hours and pre-employment ones show activities that happened before one was even being paid.
If you don't intend to comensate someone for the full 100% of their time 24 hours a day, then why should you be putting restrictions on 100% of that time?
There are lots of things actuaries would like to use to make decisions. Hell, they would probably tell you not to hire pregnant people too. They deserve to be put in their place.
> Are you disparaging all people who do sexual things because someone dangled a large reward in front of them?
Not at all. I have nothing at all against a person who honestly works in entertainment. I have a problem with people who consider themselves something else allowing themselves to be used for little more than entertainment of some executive on a power trip, who often couldn't pass his own drug test.
And you are ok with the fact that the drug testing companies are generally the ones who push for those laws?
Lets not forget Florida where the governor pushing for drug testing people on welfare actually owned the drug testing company which made millions off the deal. That is really what its about.
Hell, going as far back as the first marijuana laws, they were pushed for; at the federal level; by the head of the FBN, the very organization that had been in charge of alcohol prohibition and was now worried they might lose their jobs with nothing to do.
Seems kind of wrong to me deny people jobs just so other people can make profits.
And that is before we even get to the Nixon administration where insiders from his own administration have admitted they pushed drug laws as a way to strike back at grass roots political movements:
"We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
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Came here thinking exactly this. I need an app like this for my phone. Think we can get these guys to update their package for the lastest versions? I could use an easy root.
> This sounds like an incident at my workplace.
I was thinking the same thing about a different part....corrupted backups. Old job had a mail server update that broke the backups in a subtle way: it corrupted the mailbox names such that the path wouldn't match when the restore looked for it.
As support waved a dead chicken over it, I learned a few commands that turned out to be how to dump data streams off the tape from the command line, and was able to write a perl script to extract mailboxes that we needed, but, we were not exactly able to put the kind of pressure on vendors that gets them to go any further than "Sorry your backups are corrupt"; we were on our own to solve it after that.
> Because at base, it is a non-sequitar, one of those war on drugs nothing is too extreme for our holy cause actions.
Its not non-sequitor when the person you are arguing against couldn't pass a drug test himself. A lot of wealthy high income people would never pass a drug test and they know it.
In a way, I kind of like it. That should be the threat. Maybe they will finally defang the drug war if it starts being used against them. I bet you dollars to donuts if you started threatening to drug test enough congressmen and business owners, the controlled substances act will be repealed within a few weeks.
No. a couple of states have done it. The main incident I know of is Florida where the Governor's Wife actually owned the drug testing company. It was basically a naked grab for money and it worked. They spent millions and recovered thousands.... meaning it was nothing but a net loss directly into the Governor's personal bank accounts.
Its frightening but, the phone company already has the tower data which gives them like 90% of this stuff and that is wide open to the government. Hell sprint a few years back had information about their portal linked... government pays money....gets access to your data. No oversight, no attempt....just monetization.
Wow do you always go around making so many assumptions?
As I said, I avoid installing those apps. Yes, I have to trust more companies than I would like, I don't see why that means I should assume nothing works at all and just give up.
Just because its hard or impossible to decrease the amount of tracking on your to 0 doesn't mean that decreasing the insane amounts of it going on and shutting down some of its most prolific avenues has no value.
Because I don't install special snowflake apps on my phone, and VERY VERY few of the ones I do get approved to ask for location data, and I take away any permissions I don't think they need.
First thing I did with my new phone was disable permentantly the first app that asked for my location data. (some hidden NFL app)
> It's a delicate balancing act. If we tick off enough nations, they'll fork and go their own way without us.
Define "us"?
If a viable alternative DNS system arose, I would gladly use it. In those terms, "we", the internet using community, including those of us in the US, don't really need to care what decision they make.
Personally, I consider your warning a good plan. Congress should grip onto this as tightly as possible so we can create the impetus to create a better system....one they can never even grab a grain of.
> You got to watch people though who in preaching something contradict the very thing they preach.
Very much this. Not everyone is ideological, and not everyone who is has an ideology that values openness and truth.
Some pretty bad guys often have their interests pretty well aligned with free speech activists. Plus people are complicated and can come up with all sorts of twisted logic to justify things.
But I am also pretty familiar at this point with seeing people who did very good work turn out to be deeply flawed people personally.
A news story had me looking up some of the Stratfor leak emails, and I found a little gem in there, a bit of intelligence service humor, but, I think its also a pretty interesting statement on people:
https://wikileaks.org/IMG/pdf/...
"Patriot: A source who is betraying his country for ideological, religious, patriotic or other unreliable beliefs. Very dangerous person. He could change his mind."
That is the hard thing. The allegations are not entirely unbelievable; yet.... its also not like infiltration and use of sexual allegations against people is unheard of. In fact, its pretty well acknowledged as a tried and true tactic of intelligence services around the world.
Anyone who has read Reflections on Trusting Trust should, of course, be able to ask that question and answer it. Of course its possible, but who are you going to trust?
Fact is, this program exists, and is exploitable. *IF* we trust that the permissions work, then we can conclude that leaving them open leaves an explotable program open to misusing them at the request of a person who exploits it.
By turning off this permission, I can hope that this attempt will fail, and even expect it will. I can't say with any certainty that I know for sure it will, or that it is not circumventable, but.... there are limits to how far down the rabbit hole its useful for me to go if I want to be able to discuss or do anything. At some point the conclusion is either "don't buy a phone" or "accept that I have to trust someone".
This is why the moment I got my new phone I started disabling things. This is why the moment I saw that half the apps on my phone wanted permission to use the camera and microphone, all but 4 of them got denied that going forward.
I garauntee you facebook apps have these permissions and don't need them. The camera app takes photos, camera access is not even needed to access already stored photos....its off.
You know, I never considered that. With the prevalence of empty houses around the country, that is probably a far more common tactic for selling illegal goods than it otherwise would be.
tldr; craigslist isn't all that shady; also, if you have the wrong impression and I think it will be fun to leave you with it; I will likely encourage your fantasy.
Seriously, these guys looked like they just saw some shit out of a movie, it was kinda hilarious.
actually, I had lots of great experiences with craigslist; we used it almost exclusively for finding roomates. I had a couple of issues with scammers who delayed me by a day or two, and the usual issue of occasional bad roomates, but nothing worst than you find anywhere.
It is hillariously shady sometimes, or at least, people think it is.
I found some random crap in my basement left by a long departed (evicted, deadbeat) roomate and realized I could get $50 for a turntable he left behind. So I look it up to figure a price and put it up on craigslist. I based it on model numbers and ebay postings, and knocked a few bucks off based on other posts due to missing needles (I found those much later). Well maybe the price was low because the guy who called about it was a bit sketchy about it being stolen.
They came over, they bought it, they still were all nervous. As we wrap up a buddy of mine calls, we were heading out to lunch, so I walk out with them...and he rolls up.... 50 years old, perfect silver hair, dark sunglasses, and the blackest Ford LTD obvious former police cruiser you ever saw.
They looked at me and their eyes went wide "who is that", I just smiled, said "Just a friend of mine, don't worry about it" and walked over to the car. Lol let them have their fantasy if they want. They don't need to know they just watched two IT nerds who work from home occasionally heading off to get subs and bitch about work.
You know what happens when I get an email? Nothing. Not till I open my email and look.
Email is asynchronous communications. Email that expects 24 hour response is stupid on the senders part. You want fast response, use the right channel, or at least give me a heads up in the right channel.
You can send me 1000 emails all night long, wont disturb me one bit.
And? If you distrust your OS vendor so much that you have to block their search servers at your router, maybe you are in a losing battle and its time to switch battlefields. I am seriously thinking of going back to single booting linux instead.
> The older group are probably more likely to have their passwords written down on sticky notes under their keyboards, or stuck to their monitors.
The day malware can lift your keyboard to look, the seniors are going to be in a lot of trouble.
The sad part is you are somewhat right about security issues. 7 wont be getting security updates at some point
However, its no panacea and its offensive as fuck. Ads? Even when privacy settings are enabled, its still talking to bing like crazy. As far as I can tell, the only way to be even a little bit private with your windows usage is to block bing at your border routers.
Since I don't see how these "signals" could be used to reliably product a cryptographic key to unlock the data, seems to me like they are inherently inferior to the password.
Why take a step backwards technologically from something bad but workable to something unworkable?
A pretty standard sort of thank you from people who run a government. He is lucky, a lot of them end up in body bags or crippled and homeless for helping politicians and their machinations.
You know the real truth is, they are more afraid he will expose corruption than they are of their communications not being secure. Its probably a valid concern for them.
Honestly, the only reason I would EVER agree to a polygraph is if the entire session could be recorded, and I get to walk out with a copy of the tape.... so I can truely cherish telling him to turn his worthless prop on so he can start scamming his pay.
tbh I don't give a shit who decided that it was ok to pressure people to let you violate their medical privacy. Drug tests show activities that happen during non-work hours and pre-employment ones show activities that happened before one was even being paid.
If you don't intend to comensate someone for the full 100% of their time 24 hours a day, then why should you be putting restrictions on 100% of that time?
There are lots of things actuaries would like to use to make decisions. Hell, they would probably tell you not to hire pregnant people too. They deserve to be put in their place.
> Are you disparaging all people who do sexual things because someone dangled a large reward in front of them?
Not at all. I have nothing at all against a person who honestly works in entertainment. I have a problem with people who consider themselves something else allowing themselves to be used for little more than entertainment of some executive on a power trip, who often couldn't pass his own drug test.
> the Feds and drug tests are mandatory.
And you are ok with the fact that the drug testing companies are generally the ones who push for those laws?
Lets not forget Florida where the governor pushing for drug testing people on welfare actually owned the drug testing company which made millions off the deal. That is really what its about.
Hell, going as far back as the first marijuana laws, they were pushed for; at the federal level; by the head of the FBN, the very organization that had been in charge of alcohol prohibition and was now worried they might lose their jobs with nothing to do.
Seems kind of wrong to me deny people jobs just so other people can make profits.
And that is before we even get to the Nixon administration where insiders from his own administration have admitted they pushed drug laws as a way to strike back at grass roots political movements:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/...